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Footballers paying for sex?
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Footballers paying for sex?

Anybody following the Wayne Rooney saga in the UK? Why would a high profile footballer have to pay prostitutes for sex? He met her in a club and asked her to come him with him. She said sure, as long as you pay me. Apparently the prostitute in question was also having paid sex with other footballers.

There was a similar scandal in France earlier.

Why would high status men be paying for sex? Not only are they high status, but young and physcically fit. I don't understand this.
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Footballers paying for sex?

Quote: (09-08-2010 10:25 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Anybody following the Wayne Rooney saga in the UK? Why would a high profile footballer have to pay prostitutes for sex? He met her in a club and asked her to come him with him. She said sure, as long as you pay me. Apparently the prostitute in question was also having paid sex with other footballers.

There was a similar scandal in France earlier.

Why would high status men be paying for sex? Not only are they high status, but young and physcically fit. I don't understand this.

Fact- avg of 65 percent of american professional athlete's go broke after 5 years post retirement. 90 percent is tied to divorce/child support...prostitutes are cheaper and leave you childless...
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Footballers paying for sex?

i saw some pix of those ho's wayne rooney banged and they weren't even hot! they looked like council estate slags

Detective Rust Cohle: "All the dick swagger you roll, you can't spot crazy pussy?"
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Footballers paying for sex?

It seems that those who pay are the less good looking guys: Rooney, Ribery, Peter Crouch, Ronaldinho

I don't think good looking Footballers pay. For example Cassano (Italian Player - Ex Real Madrid player) wrote a book where he said he had sex with 600-700 women.
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Footballers paying for sex?

Quote: (09-08-2010 10:25 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Why would high status men be paying for sex? Not only are they high status, but young and physcically fit. I don't understand this.

Recently I read an European study about hookers. The study claimed that vast majority of people who visit hookers are age 25-45, married and middle to high income - so this guy seems to fit the profile quite typically. Now talking about why, my theory about it is like that. Assuming one is looking for casual sex or one night stand and not for relationship, it could be done in two ways. You can either spend time (up to three dates as Bang says), or you can spend money ($15-$5000 and up depending on location and lady).

So when you are young and relatively poor, you typically have a lot of time to pursue women, and little to no money to pay them. Therefore you would rather spend time than money, and would pursue sex in "traditional" way through hookups and dating. Here you'd say something like "I cannot imagine someone could spend $200 to fuck a chick you can pick up from a bar after talking to her for three hours".

Then when you become more successful, typically you end up having significantly more money and significantly less time. There is a tipping point when three hours would bring you significantly more than $200, and talking to a chick in a bar for three hours with the sole purpose to fuck her once sounds like an awful investment of time - you'd rather invest $200 with guaranteed result. No shit tests, no drama, no games, and you can fuck very classy chicks. You can consider how your mentality changes if you imagine the situation where you can fuck any chick you see by paying her $1.

To summarize: to me this is just balance of time versus money. People tend to moralize the issue too much talking about completely irrelevant things like self-respect and so on, but it is just sugarcoating. I also find it very funny when people in America claim something like "I would never pay for sex" - a typical holier-than-thou talk (but again, after living here for five years I know that most people here only talk the talk, and never walk the walk, so if someone is making a statement he'd never do something, it means nothing at all). To me it is simple, and I can be honest with that: paying or not paying for sex is business decision which may make sense in some cases, and I will consider it together with other available options. I did it in past, and I'm sure I will do it in future. No problems with that.

For high-profile figures there is another side:

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Paul Macartney paid 49million dollars to Heather Mills for 5 years or marriage.
Assuming he got sex every night during their 5 year relationship (which lets be honest, probably didnt happen) it would end up costing him $26,849 per night.
And Heather aint exactly the best looking bird.
Now I also note, Elliot Spitzers call girl, Kristen, an absolute stunner with a body like no other, charges $4,000 an hour. For anything..
Had Paul McCartney 'employed' Kristen for 5 years, he would've paid $7.3 million for an hour of sex every night for 5 years (a saving of $41.7 million).
Value-added benefits are: a 22 year old hot babe, no begging, no coaxing, never a headache, plays all requests, ability to put BOTH legs around you (!!!), no bitching and complaining or 'to do' lists. Best of all, she leaves when you're done, and comes back when you ask her. All at 1/7th the cost, with no legal fees

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Footballers paying for sex?

Quote: (09-08-2010 10:25 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Anybody following the Wayne Rooney saga in the UK? Why would a high profile footballer have to pay prostitutes for sex? He met her in a club and asked her to come him with him. She said sure, as long as you pay me. Apparently the prostitute in question was also having paid sex with other footballers.

There was a similar scandal in France earlier.

Why would high status men be paying for sex? Not only are they high status, but young and physcically fit. I don't understand this.

Because they dont want to deal with the drama of never having the bitch leave. High status men are a catch for women which makes them pursue them

You always pay for sex. Always. You may think its not a transaction because there is no direct exchange of currency, but you are paying one way or the other. Time, emotion, maybe nicer clothes, maybe an extra 15 minutes in the gym.

When you are that wealthy money means nothing to you. If a really hot chick you are talking to in a club says she would fuck you for 5 bucks, are you going to say no to her? Rooney makes over $150 000 a week. He probably spent like 2% of his weeks pay for a night of no strings attached sex with a chick he wanted to fuck anyway.
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I think your talking sense Nemesis, offcourse culture also makes a difference in Rio I would probably use hookers due to them being hot and I dont mind forking out 200 reals for a bang, here in DK same quality would be 3x that and then its not interesting, but given that my salary as I foresee rise more than x3 in the next 4 years, it will be plausible that I would go for that here too. Also women can be a drag, annoying as fuck, stupid, etc etc... paying for playing has its benefits of saving energy on those creatures, for anything but the actual focus..
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Footballers paying for sex?

It's interesting how much perceptions differ across the pond.

Lots of guys in Europe, it seems, become regulars with their hookers. Besides providing sex, the hookers also often give emotional support.

When my Belgian friend lost his job, he called his hooker and she calmed him down while she was waiting for clients to arrive [Image: smile.gif]
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Footballers paying for sex?

OK, so we covered why a high status guy would pay for sex.

But, I was actually more curious about the other side of this. Why would a known party slut CHARGE high status guys for sex?

In Wayne Rooney's case, he tried picking her up at the club and she said, yes I will sleep with you, if you pay me.

But, isn't sleeping with a high status guy what most women want? Why would she be charging him for sex? I would think that she would be better off sleeping with him for free and using that as leverage. Don't women approach these guys all the time offering them free sex?
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Footballers paying for sex?

"Why would a high profile footballer have to pay prostitutes for sex? "

An extremely high percentage of wealthy, successful, famous cats pay for sex. I am really surprised this is news to anyone.

"But, isn't sleeping with a high status guy what most women want?"

I think you are reading too much PUA fantasy material. I am not saying this to diss you, but the real world is a cruel place.

"Why would she be charging him for sex?"

Because she can.

" I would think that she would be better off sleeping with him for free and using that as leverage."

No one said girls always make the right decision.

"Don't women approach these guys all the time offering them free sex?"

Sure. But maybe not at 3am when he is drunk. I think it is vastly inflated how easy Celebrities have it.

What would you do in this situation:

It is 3am and you are drunk, maybe high on blow.

Girl number one is okay looking and wants to sleep with you for free.

Girl number two is hotter than July and wants $1500.

And you have 5 million in the bank.

What would you choose?
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Footballers paying for sex?

I'd ditch both of them and booty call one of my girlfriends
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Because they dont want to deal with the drama of never having the bitch leave. High status men are a catch for women which makes them pursue them
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exactly, most times high profile men pay for sex because they want to hit it and quit it and not deal with the drama, so they pay her to keep her mouth shut and leave...how effective that is is questionable
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Quote: (09-12-2010 12:36 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I'd ditch both of them and booty call one of my girlfriends

Good answer.

What if you cell phone is broken?
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oldnemesis,

Your theory is spot on. I am a proponent of P4P as a solid complement to one's seduction efforts. I'd rather fly to Colombia for a week and get laid many more times than I'd really want to for half the price of a $2000 bootcamp (I think there's an RSD bootcamp for $6k). But I also think it's good to have these skillz in the case you happen to like a woman that just can't be bought with $$$.

There are several things regarding P4P and marriage I would like to add though:

Besides self-respect and lack of money, there are other reasons why guys don't P4P, including pride, ego, need to keep their instinctual closing drive from atrophying, rationalization of not being able to afford it, buying into the glamourized image/fantasy of a master PUA, etc.

I do have to say that marriage has some benefits such as partnering up on a business venture with your wife or some kind of goal (in Gone With The Wind, Rhett Butler married that bitch so he could get into the elite social circle of Atlanta's high society) or getting into the "sum of the parts is greater" concept (e.g. : the joining of two powerful families such as back in the old days), having kids who can take care of you when you're 70 and in a wheelchair, etc. However, I think Paul McCartney, and now Tiger Woods, are paying up the nose for this.

To ManAbout - GManifesto is right: usually the girls who throw themselves at athletes (athletic team groupies?) aren't really that attractive. If anything, they're either losers or of low social rank.

One can make bootycalls, but if you want new pussy just to satisfy your urge for the night, then P4P is just the ticket.

Anyway, I gave you rep on this.
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Quote: (09-12-2010 04:39 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (09-12-2010 12:36 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I'd ditch both of them and booty call one of my girlfriends

Good answer.

What if you cell phone is broken?

Smoke signals.
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Quote: (09-12-2010 10:05 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Quote: (09-12-2010 04:39 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (09-12-2010 12:36 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I'd ditch both of them and booty call one of my girlfriends

Good answer.

What if you cell phone is broken?

Smoke signals.

Nice.

Yet another reason to carry a lighter with you when you roll out.
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Quote: (09-11-2010 03:14 AM)Quasi Wrote:  

I think your talking sense Nemesis, offcourse culture also makes a difference in Rio I would probably use hookers due to them being hot and I dont mind forking out 200 reals for a bang, here in DK same quality would be 3x that and then its not interesting, but given that my salary as I foresee rise more than x3 in the next 4 years, it will be plausible that I would go for that here too.

How much 200 reals are comparing to average monthly salary in Rio? Hot girls in Thailand are very expensive by Thai standards - a local guy working on a factory and making 6K baht a month cannot fuck 1,000 baht hookers daily, while for a foreigner on vacation 1K baht ($33) it is a bargain. Same in DK - I bet those who make 50K euro a month would have no problem using local hookers who are very hot, as they have no problem giving them 500-800 EUR a night.
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Quote: (09-11-2010 04:16 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

OK, so we covered why a high status guy would pay for sex.
But, I was actually more curious about the other side of this. Why would a known party slut CHARGE high status guys for sex?

Because for her it is a job. She wants to make money, and he can pay. You wouldn't do laundry for free even for a high status guy, would you?

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In Wayne Rooney's case, he tried picking her up at the club and she said, yes I will sleep with you, if you pay me.

And at this moment he had three choices. First was to dump her. Second was to spend a few hours with her, showing her what kind of high value alpha male he is so she'd fuck him for free. Third was to pay her. Exactly the time-money dilemma I described before.

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But, isn't sleeping with a high status guy what most women want? Why would she be charging him for sex? I would think that she would be better off sleeping with him for free and using that as leverage. Don't women approach these guys all the time offering them free sex?

I'd guess not. How many men would approach Catherine Zeta Jones? And it is even more difficult for women to approach. Not surprisingly, those who can do it and mastered it are usually those who want to get something out of it.
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