[docsedated]

Would you guys settle for a BJ or even a Hand Job if U have tried every thing to break through the LMR and Girl wouldn't give in

IF YES: what would be a good way to ask/order for it ?

" I do not want to leave with Blue Balls " " U are not going to leave me high and dry "

IF NO : Do you guys think it decreases your chances of F-close in future ?

[clr]

dont ask, put her hand on your cock.... its rarely failed me, they know the deal, less is more, dont turn it into a conversation.

[Sketness]

Just whip your dick out and say " its not going to suck its self!"

[lilactag]

fuck first and get it sucked afterwards if it is a first.

Last saturday I arranged a meeting with a pro dancer to come and discuss study plans at the Arts Center i manage..
i already fucked her before (once) and at lunch time i invented the excuse of checking some things in the theater practice studio..
then I said where are her talented hands, i wanted to see them...then I just said:"should i get naked or just pull it out?"

women are like robots, show them your cock and they go down to it, simple.

[docsedated]

[quote='lilactag' pid='26361' dateline='1283064816']
fuck first and get it sucked afterwards if it is a first.

@ lilactag : Thanks for the input......

Can you please explain Why do u say Fuck first then suck ? I understand it's easy to get a BJ/HJ if you have fucked the girl before.

what I am trying to understand/ Optomize is if a girl is not ready to fuck and you think you might lose her........ would you settle for a BJ/HJ or wait for the right moment to fuck ? Do you think going for BJ/HJ decreases your chances of F-close in future?

[Mrs. Chocolate]

(08-28-2010 08:24 PM)Sketness Wrote:  

Just whip your dick out and say " its not going to suck its self!"

Bad idea, suggar.

[lilactag]

doc,
in my experience, women would give you a merciful HJ or BJ, but a fuck is another level.
Therefore i fuck them first as a rule, don't even let them touch my buddy hehe, i go directly for them and let them feel it in darkness, arise their curiosity and leave...
then they will even ask to please you.

This woman dancer i told above wrote me an sms 1 hour later with a: "i am so pleased you let me please you"

Another thing:
if you fear "you are going to loose her", then runaway, stop all contact, i guarantee they will call you to check whatever happened to you. But the moment they feel they have you by your balls, things get tricky, i avoid conflicts, soooo

[CJ]

You know... thinking back to the days before my LTRs when I was far more skilled at being a slut, I do recall several instances where I just whipped it out and the girls knew what to do next...

[zanetti]

(08-29-2010 01:53 AM)lilactag Wrote:  

fuck first and get it sucked afterwards if it is a first.

Last saturday I arranged a meeting with a pro dancer to come and discuss study plans at the Arts Center i manage..
i already fucked her before (once) and at lunch time i invented the excuse of checking some things in the theater practice studio..
then I said where are her talented hands, i wanted to see them...then I just said:"should i get naked or just pull it out?"

women are like robots, show them your cock and they go down to it, simple.

this is awesome - gonna try this one out

[clr]

or put their hand on it, less is more, you dont have to tell most women, they know the deal.

[HD668B]

On the last 2-3 weeks I had three girls that were on period, they all give me hj/bj/actually wanted me to cum.
1 on them fell in love, 1 made me fully hit it later on that week, and 1 is ignoring my txt right now

[oldnemesis]

(08-27-2010 02:21 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

Would you guys settle for a BJ or even a Hand Job if U have tried every thing to break through the LMR and Girl wouldn't give in

I find it interesting that it is considered settling. Personally I (as well as a lot of Europeans I know) would actually prefer BJ over intercourse, assuming it is good. Yet another cultural difference I think.

[Timoteo]

I don't accept handjobs...I need a chick to do something for me that I can't do myself.

[WesternCancer]

Some action is better than no action at all, but I cant cum from BJs and HJs suck so I'd probably just freeze her out and try for the bang again later.

[Moma]

(09-18-2010 10:04 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(08-27-2010 02:21 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

Would you guys settle for a BJ or even a Hand Job if U have tried every thing to break through the LMR and Girl wouldn't give in

I find it interesting that it is considered settling. Personally I (as well as a lot of Europeans I know) would actually prefer BJ over intercourse, assuming it is good. Yet another cultural difference I think.

Why??

[Lemmileak]

(08-27-2010 02:21 PM)docsedated Wrote:  

Would you guys settle for a BJ or even a Hand Job if U have tried every thing to break through the LMR and Girl wouldn't give in

IF YES: what would be a good way to ask/order for it ?

" I do not want to leave with Blue Balls " " U are not going to leave me high and dry "

IF NO : Do you guys think it decreases your chances of F-close in future ?

I would go for the blowjob.. Hand jobs are the worse.

I dont think it will make closing worse, however you should be running solid game so you dont get lmr in the first place

[oldnemesis]

(10-26-2011 08:35 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-18-2010 10:04 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

I find it interesting that it is considered settling. Personally I (as well as a lot of Europeans I know) would actually prefer BJ over intercourse, assuming it is good. Yet another cultural difference I think.

Why??

Culture. In some (maybe all) Eastern European and Asian countries blowjob is considered something only the whores do. Fucking, however, is something everyone does. So if this is your first time, the girl may play the "I don't suck" game so you don't think she's a whore - and at the same time she'll fuck with no problem. I personally experienced it a lot of times in Russia and Ukraine and heard about such cases in Thailand and Philippines. As usual, the older or more open-minded the chick, the less likely it is to happen.

This creates something which would probably be considered in America as paradox - from the chicks who'd fuck you only few would suck you off. Hence getting a BJ in Russia is more difficult than getting pussy, and therefore is more valuable.
Another thing to consider is that very few girls can suck good enough (and even less can do it for longer than five minutes), while to be fucked good enough all she needs is to have a tight pussy and some basic ideas which could be explained in two minutes.

[afronoob]

(10-26-2011 11:04 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(10-26-2011 08:35 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-18-2010 10:04 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

I find it interesting that it is considered settling. Personally I (as well as a lot of Europeans I know) would actually prefer BJ over intercourse, assuming it is good. Yet another cultural difference I think.

Why??

Culture. In some (maybe all) Eastern European and Asian countries blowjob is considered something only the whores do. Fucking, however, is something everyone does. So if this is your first time, the girl may play the "I don't suck" game so you don't think she's a whore - and at the same time she'll fuck with no problem. I personally experienced it a lot of times in Russia and Ukraine and heard about such cases in Thailand and Philippines. As usual, the older or more open-minded the chick, the less likely it is to happen.

This creates something which would probably be considered in America as paradox - from the chicks who'd fuck you only few would suck you off. Hence getting a BJ in Russia is more difficult than getting pussy, and therefore is more valuable.
Another thing to consider is that very few girls can suck good enough (and even less can do it for longer than five minutes), while to be fucked good enough all she needs is to have a tight pussy and some basic ideas which could be explained in two minutes.

Personally, I've never understood the whole BJ/HJ subculture,which IMO is a Western thing. I much prefer to FUCK,which is to say nut satisfyingly in the pussy of a +7. However, a BJ is a fallback if,AND ONLY IF she's on the rag.

[Lemmileak]

(10-26-2011 11:18 PM)afronoob Wrote:  

(10-26-2011 11:04 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(10-26-2011 08:35 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-18-2010 10:04 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

I find it interesting that it is considered settling. Personally I (as well as a lot of Europeans I know) would actually prefer BJ over intercourse, assuming it is good. Yet another cultural difference I think.

Why??

Culture. In some (maybe all) Eastern European and Asian countries blowjob is considered something only the whores do. Fucking, however, is something everyone does. So if this is your first time, the girl may play the "I don't suck" game so you don't think she's a whore - and at the same time she'll fuck with no problem. I personally experienced it a lot of times in Russia and Ukraine and heard about such cases in Thailand and Philippines. As usual, the older or more open-minded the chick, the less likely it is to happen.

This creates something which would probably be considered in America as paradox - from the chicks who'd fuck you only few would suck you off. Hence getting a BJ in Russia is more difficult than getting pussy, and therefore is more valuable.
Another thing to consider is that very few girls can suck good enough (and even less can do it for longer than five minutes), while to be fucked good enough all she needs is to have a tight pussy and some basic ideas which could be explained in two minutes.

Personally, I've never understood the whole BJ/HJ subculture,which IMO is a Western thing. I much prefer to FUCK,which is to say nut satisfyingly in the pussy of a +7. However, a BJ is a fallback if,AND ONLY IF she's on the rag.

That's intersting. Next time I travel I know not to just whip it out and shove her face donw there