Quote: (06-18-2013 02:20 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:
You seem to have a problem with women daring to decide to wear whatever they choose. What the fuck?!
Then you have a problem with a "society that allows women to be free to make any choice they want". Again, what the fuck?!
What are you suggesting here that we chain them up in the cow shed and make them wear cloth sacks? I hope I have misread your intentions because otherwise you're talking claptrap.
To continue, you say that she should expect judgement. Sure, we all judge people but we don't vocalise it when it's not our place. THAT is the only issue here. If I'm a waiter in a restaurant and you come in with your wife and kids and I say "jesus your daughter is ugly, sort her teeth out" you'd be pissed. Not pissed that I thought it, we all think shit, but that I vocalised it. Same here. The TSA officer can think anything about anyone but they should keep their opinions to themselves when out of the staff room UNLESS it is in regard to the safety of passengers and flights.
If some TSA guy told my daughter she was dressed as a slut I'd be pissed. I would not go to the extremes of this father, but I'd definitely tell the officer to keep their opinions to themselves. And the funny thing is the girl was dressed perfectly normally. I like that these young chicks are showing leg and stomach and a bit of cleavage, it's material for my monthly wank.
As I said, the issue is not her choice, but the fact that she thinks her choice should have no consequences.
That is not reality. Life is about making choices and living with the consequences. If a 15 year old girl is going to walk around in public wearing skin-tight leggings and a tank top, she needs to be aware that presenting herself in such a highly sexualized manner will affect the way that people view her.
She is free to walk around dressed however she likes, but she is not free to tell me how to react to it. If a white guy walks around wearing a shirt that says, "Fuck niggers", do you think that no one is going to say anything to him? Of course not. He would be shamed at the very least. You have freedom of speech (which includes freedom to dress how you like) but you do NOT have the freedom to be totally unaccountable for your speech.
It was not the TSA employee's place to point this out, sure. But what if it had just been some guy on the street? It's not like the TSA guy denied her access to the plane. He just told her that she should cover herself up more.
This is a textbook example of shaming behavior, the feminists are right about that. I simply disagree with them that shaming behavior is bad. Shaming is a powerful tool for enforcing societal norms and encouraging desirable behavior, especially from young teenagers and children who are easily manipulated by peer pressure and who don't always understand the full implications of their choices.
At root this is a parenting failure. This beta chode dad sees no problem in letting his 15 year old daughter run around wearing something like this: