[Wutang]

Saw some people on my FB were signing a petition about letting this girl off. The petition was focusing more on the fact that she was a lesbian then the age of the people involved. After reading the comments it seemed like most people thought she was getting hit with the book because she was a lesbian and not because of the age difference.

[Mage]

It's extremely stupid that if a person is 1 day over 18 he is a criminal for having a sex with a person 17 years and 11 months old.
There should be a transitional period for example a sensible law would state that having having sex with a minor is criminal offense only if the "adult" is for example 3 or more years older than the "minor".

It's ridiculous how the current system pampers people before they turn 18 and then turns on them with full force suddenly.

People should be treated as adults from ages of 12-14. Then they will also turn into sensible adults. This is also the age when they mature sexually. If you keep forcing them to be children for 4-6 more years they will keep some degree of infantility well over their forties.

The sex of persons involved is irrelevant. This system is unfair to both men and women and it is wrong to applaud when it starts to become unfair to women too only because it has been unfair to men for quite some time already. The laws should be fair to anyone.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Well, both feminist and LGBT organizations will be angry over this - ones because this is against female sequality, and the others because this is against same-sex relationships. Yet it's the law and it must be applied. As Tuth said, it's the only way in which they can feel the threat that hangs over guys for being with someone younger.

The only reason this case is being prosecuted is because the victim is a woman.

[Nonpareil]

She broke the law, the law in this case is not very confusing (stupid? Perhaps, but confusing? No), the law doesn't care that she's a girl, she likes to eat pussy or that she passes for bangable in the right lighting, it's not about that (so shoo, SWPL Dykes, Feminists and White Knights), it's about age.

It doesn't take a degree in Women's Studies to realize that the only way for teenagers to have sex responsibly is to educate them on it, enforce boundaries and raise them to have respect for themselves and for others. So I always laugh when a case like this emerges, where instead of doing this, parents plant their kids in front of the TV and the internet and let them get their ideas of sex from porn, Lena Dunham and the STARZ! Network and the media freaks out when something like this happens.

[WanderingSoul]

She should be let off the hook, just as any teenage boy who bangs a teenage girl should be as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fucked in the head. Just as fucked in the head as anyone who is happy this 18 year old girls life is about to destroyed.

Sometimes I think there are a few too many guys on this forum who get no pussy, and just come here to bitch about feminists, LGBT and other issues as a way to make themselves feel better about being fucking weirdos.

[Zebra_Cakes]

(05-24-2013 04:22 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

She should be let off the hook, just as any teenage boy who bangs a teenage girl should be as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fucked in the head. Just as fucked in the head as anyone who is happy this 18 year old girls life is about to destroyed.

Sometimes I think there are a few too many guys on this forum who get no pussy, and just come here to bitch about feminists, LGBT and other issues as a way to make themselves feel better about being fucking weirdos.

I agree with you to a point, Nomad. The fact that a man or woman can have their lives ruined by consensual sex because one is a little younger than the other is something that needs to be addressed. Especially when they're both students.

However, I don't think others on here have anything against her because she's a girl, what they're applauding is that finally, the law is being fair and punishing a woman for committing a crime that normally has punished men. It's rare that this sort of thing happens. Some of the reactions people have displayed in this thread are completely understandable. The law is the law. That doesn't mean that it isn't a stupid law, just means that's the way it is until people have had enough and demand that it's changed.

[A CLOCKWORK TRADER]

(05-24-2013 04:22 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

She should be let off the hook, just as any teenage boy who bangs a teenage girl should be as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fucked in the head. Just as fucked in the head as anyone who is happy this 18 year old girls life is about to destroyed.

Sometimes I think there are a few too many guys on this forum who get no pussy, and just come here to bitch about feminists, LGBT and other issues as a way to make themselves feel better about being fucking weirdos.

x2

[soup]

2/10

[Gmac]

All these stories reveal the real problem in our society, a failure on the part of the parents and teachers to warn the youth about the consequences you face once you turn that "magical" 18 years old.

[Nonpareil]

(05-24-2013 04:22 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

She should be let off the hook, just as any teenage boy who bangs a teenage girl should be as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fucked in the head. Just as fucked in the head as anyone who is happy this 18 year old girls life is about to destroyed.

Sometimes I think there are a few too many guys on this forum who get no pussy, and just come here to bitch about feminists, LGBT and other issues as a way to make themselves feel better about being fucking weirdos.

Has the damage not already been done here? Even if she gets off, she's been expelled, meaning any college admissions she had going are in serious jeopardy (if not revoked), and this thing is all over the internet, and we know how hard it is to get something off the internet.

A complete failure in parenting (at the individual and the societal level; kids these days just aren't raised to understand consequences), a rabid press and a questionable law, even if this girl doesn't get convicted, have severely damaged this girl's future prospects; these days, a criminal accusation is almost just as bad as a criminal conviction.

[Blaster]

But if we're talking what I think and what society should think and how the laws should be written instead of how they actually are written: they should be focused on the actual harm caused to the minor. If any. Laws tend to take a zero-tolerance, litmus-test stance on the issue that merely looks at the age of the minor and details of sexual contact. From the article:

The Article Wrote:

Hunt is charged with two counts of lewd and lascivious battery of a child 12 to 16 years of age after the other girl's parents called authorities when Hunt, a senior at Sebastian River High School, turned 18

In other words the two girls were having a relationship and were 3.5ish years apart in age. Freshman/senior. Maybe slightly pre-freshman. Either way it was perfectly legal until the magic day Hunt turned 18 when all of a sudden she's officially an adult and the exact same behavior becomes a felony "lewd and lascivious battery."

Most likely, the only reason it was brought to the attention of law enforcement at all is because it was a same-sex relationship. The parents got pissed that their daughter wouldn't stop hooking up homo with this Kaitlyn girl so they called the cops.

Quote:

If you (and society) want to make it okay for that girl to do what she did, you have excuse both genders.

Most of the time both genders are excused. By society if not the police. Thousands of male/female high-school couples across the country are guilty of this crime. 14, 15, and 16 year olds tend to range fro 8th grade to Sophomore/Juniors in high school. Seniors, like Kaitlyn Hunt, sometimes turn 18 before they graduate. Kids joke about that shit all the time actually. I guarantee somewhere there's some 18-year old boy having his balls busted by his friends for statutorily raping his 16-year old girlfriend. "Hey guys it's Connor, back from some lewd and lascivious battery with Kayley. haha " And Kayley's girlfriends are probably saying the exact same thing to her.

[NY Digital]

Age of consent is 16 and 17 in most states

[Walderschmidt]

(05-24-2013 04:22 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

She should be let off the hook, just as any teenage boy who bangs a teenage girl should be as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fucked in the head. Just as fucked in the head as anyone who is happy this 18 year old girls life is about to destroyed.

Sometimes I think there are a few too many guys on this forum who get no pussy, and just come here to bitch about feminists, LGBT and other issues as a way to make themselves feel better about being fucking weirdos.

I don't think anyone seriously disagrees with you Rio. I for one don't.

You are correct - but that is not the whole story.

I also agree with the guys who say she should get punished with the full extent of the law. I don't believe that because I think what she did is wrong. I believe that if she gets punished to the full extent of the law, female and feminist outrage may change or revoke this law, which is what we all want, in a big picture sense. She is sort of a sacrificial lamb.

Sure, if she didn't get the book thrown at her, it'd point out the glaring obvious, but that hasn't stopped feminists before. If she got prosecuted and destroyed, we might actually see a change in our favor. I think that is what most guys here actually mean.

Wald

[soup]

(05-25-2013 10:22 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

All these stories reveal the real problem in our society, a failure on the part of the parents and teachers to warn the youth about the consequences you face once you turn that "magical" 18 years old.

This and practical economics like how to handle your money etc. never get focused on in schools. Meanwhile they teach all this other stuff that isn't even relevant to making a living.

Education is a racket.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(05-25-2013 12:58 PM)soup Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 10:22 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

All these stories reveal the real problem in our society, a failure on the part of the parents and teachers to warn the youth about the consequences you face once you turn that "magical" 18 years old.

This and practical economics like how to handle your money etc. never get focused on in schools. Meanwhile they teach all this other stuff that isn't even relevant to making a living...

And to they even teach kids to lift?

[azulsombra]

(05-25-2013 10:52 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 04:22 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

She should be let off the hook, just as any teenage boy who bangs a teenage girl should be as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fucked in the head. Just as fucked in the head as anyone who is happy this 18 year old girls life is about to destroyed.

Sometimes I think there are a few too many guys on this forum who get no pussy, and just come here to bitch about feminists, LGBT and other issues as a way to make themselves feel better about being fucking weirdos.

Has the damage not already been done here? Even if she gets off, she's been expelled, meaning any college admissions she had going are in serious jeopardy (if not revoked), and this thing is all over the internet, and we know how hard it is to get something off the internet.

A complete failure in parenting (at the individual and the societal level; kids these days just aren't raised to understand consequences), a rabid press and a questionable law, even if this girl doesn't get convicted, have severely damaged this girl's future prospects; these days, a criminal accusation is almost just as bad as a criminal conviction.

I think your overestimating the "damage" done to this girl, assuming she doesnt serve any time(which she likely wont). There will be an army of feminist/LGBT supporters to get her back on track as we have already seen on the internet.

After this trial is over, regardless of the outcome the media will approach her to give an interview on oprah or ellen and she will likely get a book deal out of it. Afterwards she can major in Women's studies at some state school and have a secure job at some feminist organization waiting for her as a modern day "heroine".

I think she'll be fine, unless her dream was to coach high school basketball.
That one probably won't pan out....

[Sebastian]

how do they define having sex for women? licking and rubbing each other is enough?

[Timoteo]

(05-25-2013 05:21 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

how do they define having sex for women? licking and rubbing each other is enough?

It can be oral/genital, digital, toys, you name it.

[Christian McQueen]

^^^^Lmao true. I was having lunch today with one of my regulars and she brought up how many guys she's slept with.

I know who they are so I was like '5?', who's the 5th? She's like, "Well that girl we had a threesome with."

I was like, sweetheart you don't count a girl on your notch count.

Hahahahahahahahaha and this chick is a nurse. Palm to forehead.

[Gmac]

(05-25-2013 07:15 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

^^^^Lmao true. I was having lunch today with one of my regulars and she brought up how many guys she's slept with.

I know who they are so I was like '5?', who's the 5th? She's like, "Well that girl we had a threesome with."

I was like, sweetheart you don't count a girl on your notch count.

Hahahahahahahahaha and this chick is a nurse. Palm to forehead.

I have a feeling you'd be fun to hang with.

[Therapsid]

Well, it looks like the girl is serving time after all:

Vero Beach, Florida (CNN) -- Kaitlyn Hunt, the 19-year-old who has been jailed in Florida over a sexual relationship she had with a 14-year-old girl, pleaded no contest Thursday to five charges as part of a deal brokered by prosecutors and her attorneys.
Hunt pleaded no contest to two counts of misdemeanor battery, misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child and two counts of felony interference with child custody.

The felony charges originate from the times she picked up the 14-year-old against the girl's parents' wishes.
Hunt has been in jail since August 20 for violating a court order not to contact the alleged victim.

Under the terms of the agreement, Hunt will be sentenced to four months in jail, to be followed by two years of house arrest with electronic monitoring, and nine months of monitored probation after that, according to prosecutor Brian Workman.

If she has no violations, she will not be a convicted felon under Florida law, and she will have the possibility of sealing her file and having the case expunged after 10 years, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/justice/fl...plea-deal/

[eradicator]

(10-03-2013 01:48 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

If she has no violations, she will not be a convicted felon under Florida law, and she will have the possibility of sealing her file and having the case expunged after 10 years, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/justice/fl...plea-deal/

ten years? egad.

mental note: do not become a sex offender.

[Suits]

(10-03-2013 01:48 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Well, it looks like the girl is serving time after all:

Vero Beach, Florida (CNN) -- Kaitlyn Hunt, the 19-year-old who has been jailed in Florida over a sexual relationship she had with a 14-year-old girl, pleaded no contest Thursday to five charges as part of a deal brokered by prosecutors and her attorneys.
Hunt pleaded no contest to two counts of misdemeanor battery, misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child and two counts of felony interference with child custody.

The felony charges originate from the times she picked up the 14-year-old against the girl's parents' wishes.
Hunt has been in jail since August 20 for violating a court order not to contact the alleged victim.

Under the terms of the agreement, Hunt will be sentenced to four months in jail, to be followed by two years of house arrest with electronic monitoring, and nine months of monitored probation after that, according to prosecutor Brian Workman.

If she has no violations, she will not be a convicted felon under Florida law, and she will have the possibility of sealing her file and having the case expunged after 10 years, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/justice/fl...plea-deal/

Anyone wanna play the "switch the genders" comparison game?

[Cincinnatus]

(10-03-2013 03:03 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:48 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Well, it looks like the girl is serving time after all:

Vero Beach, Florida (CNN) -- Kaitlyn Hunt, the 19-year-old who has been jailed in Florida over a sexual relationship she had with a 14-year-old girl, pleaded no contest Thursday to five charges as part of a deal brokered by prosecutors and her attorneys.
Hunt pleaded no contest to two counts of misdemeanor battery, misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child and two counts of felony interference with child custody.

The felony charges originate from the times she picked up the 14-year-old against the girl's parents' wishes.
Hunt has been in jail since August 20 for violating a court order not to contact the alleged victim.

Under the terms of the agreement, Hunt will be sentenced to four months in jail, to be followed by two years of house arrest with electronic monitoring, and nine months of monitored probation after that, according to prosecutor Brian Workman.

If she has no violations, she will not be a convicted felon under Florida law, and she will have the possibility of sealing her file and having the case expunged after 10 years, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/justice/fl...plea-deal/

Anyone wanna play the "switch the genders" comparison game?

Not really. We all know how fucked a 19 yr. old young man would be in the same boat.

[2Wycked]

Stupid shit like this makes me hate being an attorney.

I have seen seemingly rational lawyers turn bonkers when confronted with sex-related issues.

Someone like me with strong anti-social issues just laughs.

Why the strong aversion to sex?

Follow my threads about "The Culture Of Narcissism" if you want an answer for that.