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Abraxas' Game Journal
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Abraxas' Game Journal

I'm going to have to keep this short for now as I am on the way out the door for a night of sarging, but, as you may have deduced from the title, this thread is going to serve as a sort of journal for my field experiences. I intend to go out 3-5 times a week, approaching 10 sets each night. It's time to get this area of my life handled once and for all. My lack of success with women has become like a dark cloud in the foreground of my consciousness, and I need to blast through it so that I am able to move onto other areas of interest without any glaring insecurities holding me back.

Anyway, I'm off! I will report back either later tonight or sometime tomorrow.
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Cool idea. Looking forward to seeing your progress. Maybe I need to do one of these.
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Tonight ended up being rather anticlimactic as I violated the club dress code by wearing a sleeveless shirt and therefore was not allowed in. I would have simply gone somewhere else, but this venue is pretty much the only place to find any action on a Wednesday night, which is precisely why that is the best night of the week to go there. It gets fucking packed and the layout of the place is conducive to pickup.

On the bright side, I will now know to check the dress code of any venues I plan on attending before going out, and I also had a chance to listen to a very solid Eckhart Tolle lecture on the way there and back.

Anyway, tomorrow night I plan to return to the same place, arriving early so that I have time to bounce to a club in the next town over for "college night." Between those two places, I should be able to fulfill the guidelines of Mystery's newbie mission: 12 sets over the course of 4 hours.
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is it 2006 again

damn
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Good initiative... will follow [Image: smile.gif]
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For real.... a sleeveless shirt? Please don't take this as hating....but with an opener like that you are either.

1. Playing too many video games in moms basement and decided to show off your "guns" to the bitches after Karate practice haha

OR

2. You are like a cool ass Fast Times at Ridgempont high Jeff Spicoli type, who doesn't give a fuck. Which is awesome.

I hope you're number two.
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Ha. I probably fall somewhere in between those two descriptions.

The outfit in question consisted of a grey wifebeater with a charcoal grey pinstripe vest overtop and dark jeans, like the guy on the right in this photo:

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2161/40022578.jpg

I tend to go for the rockstar look as I have long hair, tattoos, and wear a lot of accessories in the form of rings, necklaces, etc. If I had to compare my appearance/style to any celebrity, it would be Mickey Avalon:

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sourc...=&gs_rfai=

I have the same build, height, and fashion style. Sort of androgynous, heroin chic. It's well received by the ladies when my confidence is up, otherwise I feel incongruent.
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Got it....but are you really a rocker?
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Hmm, what would you consider "really a rocker?" Like, a member of a band?
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Yes a member of a band, or atleast play an instrument? Are you into art like can you paint or graf etc

Just asking because things like that are huge bonus with the chicks.

BTW - Abraxas is a cool ass name.
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When I first found these forums about 8 months ago, I stumbled upon a very long thread, that was basically like a "game journal" that guys would write about their experiences out in the "field." I think the thread was about 2 year old, and a lot of those guys have probably since dropped out these forums, but maybe it's time to revive it? I may decide to drop some field reports, but recently I have been in a funk, feeling down, and kind of dropped off my game as far as going out, sarging, etc. Abraxas, I would be interested to hear about your experiences, it's good that you are coming from a point of honesty, and wanting to improve your game.
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Quote: (07-23-2010 09:45 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Yes a member of a band, or atleast play an instrument? Are you into art like can you paint or graf etc

Just asking because things like that are huge bonus with the chicks.

BTW - Abraxas is a cool ass name.

Not currently, though I do aspire to start a rock band. I don't play any instruments but I do consider myself a talented vocalist and I have very few inhibitions about performing in front of a crowd. I think I have the presence to pull it off. Starting a band is something I have been talking about for a long time. Perhaps I will put up a profile on Bandmix.
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Alright, guys. I realize this thing is off to a pretty ignominious start. My ego is fighting hard to keep me from diving in head first. Thursday night I ended up staying in and drinking by myself, rationalizing it to myself because I had a "writing assignment" to work on. Last night, I was scheduled to attend a midnight movie at a local arthouse theater. I had planned on sarging a bit beforehand, but I ended up stalling around the house until I didn't have enough time to do anything but stop at a bookstore on the way to theater. No girls to be found.

Tonight, however, we dine in hell. I will be on the road by 8pm, and, to quote Bang, I don't care if I'm on the floor having a seizure while foaming out the mouth, I will fulfill the guidelines of the newbie mission. If there is a set that contains a girl that I would have sex with after drinking a fifth of whiskey, I will approach, whether there are other men present or not. And I'm not talking about sheepishly delivering a canned opener and immediately ejecting, either. I will remain in set until I am blown out or lose consciousness.

Stay tuned.
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Quote: (07-24-2010 02:58 PM)Abraxas Wrote:  

Alright, guys. I realize this thing is off to a pretty ignominious start. My ego is fighting hard to keep me from diving in head first. Thursday night I ended up staying in and drinking by myself, rationalizing it to myself because I had a "writing assignment" to work on. Last night, I was scheduled to attend a midnight movie at a local arthouse theater. I had planned on sarging a bit beforehand, but I ended up stalling around the house until I didn't have enough time to do anything but stop at a bookstore on the way to theater. No girls to be found.

Tonight, however, we dine in hell. I will be on the road by 8pm, and, to quote Bang, I don't care if I'm on the floor having a seizure while foaming out the mouth, I will fulfill the guidelines of the newbie mission. If there is a set that contains a girl that I would have sex with after drinking a fifth of whiskey, I will approach, whether there are other men present or not. And I'm not talking about sheepishly delivering a canned opener and immediately ejecting, either. I will remain in set until I am blown out or lose consciousness.

Stay tuned.

No offense brotha, but drinking at home alone is not really worth posting about, but yeah I know what it's like, although I tend to not drink alone, just smoke lot's of the best chronic. As for the midnight movie thing, we got those at our local theater too, not the best place for meeting girls, but could be a decent date option if you've already been out with a girl a few times. No point in trying to sarge at a bookstore at night time, but it could be good for day game. I'm not into corporate stores, but I remember back in NoVA there was a huge Borders Bookstore where they had a fat cafe in the store with lot's of comfy chairs/couches, there were always tons of honeys there, that's the kind of spot for day game.

It's good that you are doing a "newbie" mission, I try not to follow stuff like that too rigidly, but it's a good motivator and if you follow through with the approaches, it will definitely improve your game. You might be jesting a bit about drinking a fifth of wiskey and staying in set till you lose conciousness, but trust me, don't use alcohol as a crutch. I know because I am kind of guilty of it, after about 3 mixed drinks my approach anxiety is reduced by like 80%, so it's good to have a little bit, but if you drink too much, you and your game will be sloppy, and no girl will be attracted to that. Also, if you need to get motivated to do approaches, I always like rolling with a wing, because sometime I will play this little game where I tell my homie to pick out a girl or set for me to approach, and I kind of do it out of a challenge or to show that I am not a total pussy.
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Haha, yeah, I guess I worded that kind of ambiguously. When I said that I would approach any girl that I would have sex with after drinking a fifth of whiskey, I simply meant that I would approach any set with a girl that is even mildly attractive. My drinking is very limited when I go out, mostly because the best clubs in my state are an hour drive both ways from where I live. I rarely have more than two beers. If I lose consciousness in set, it will be from anxiety rather than drugs or alcohol, but yes, I was jesting.
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I hath returned! First off, I will tell you that I did end up deviating from my plan that I had outlined earlier. Somewhat. I did not open any mixed sets and I did eject after delivering my opener. After my first set, I decided that, having done only a meager handful of approaches so far this year, I would dedicate this night to desensitizing myself to the process of approaching and opening.

Tonight's field location was the downtown area of one of my state's more "hip" communities. It's a great location for sarging as there is one main strip with several different bars and clubs, all of which are insanely target rich on any weekend night. I opened 10 sets altogether, each of which I will now attempt to describe to the best of my memory.

I decided to stick with one opener for the evening, which I lifted from the Love Systems Routines Manual. It is an opinion opener, which is delivered as follows:

"Hey guys, how do you tell someone that you're not interested without hurting their feelings?"

(They respond)

"Okay, check this out. I'm meeting up with some friends here shortly, and my friend Mindy is trying to set me up with her friend. She's cute and everything, but not really my type. What should I say?"

I really dig this opener as it insinuates preselection and the fact that as a man of abundance, beauty alone is insufficient for securing my time and attention.

#1 - I enter the bar and immediately spot a seated 4 set. There is one empty chair. I walk around to the right side of the table, slowly turn so that I am facing them at a 45 degree angle, and deliver the opener. In the middle of my delivery, the occupant of the empty fifth seat returns, smiling in my direction as she sits down. In fact, most of the girls at the table (who ranged from decently attractive to slightly too chubby for serious consideration) seemed amused by the opener from what I could tell. However, only the girl closest to where I was standing gives a response, which I can't remember at the moment. I thank her for her input and eject.

#2 - Back outside, a set of 4 young and very sexy Latin girls come up on me from behind. I slowly turn to the left. "Hey guys, real quick, maybe you can help me with something." One of them says, "Yeah... we don't speak English." In retrospect, this would've been a perfect moment to deliver "Let me guess, you guys are from the Dominican Republic" or some variation of that infamous line. Instead, I said "You sound pretty fluent to me." The girl in the back of the pack, who also happened to be the hottest out of all of them, did walk with me and allow me to deliver the opener in its entirety. I can't remember what her suggestion was, but her friend up in front of us shouted back "You should text her and tell her to eat a dick!!!" I think she was pretty drunk. I politely bid them adieu and continued on down the sidewalk.

#3 - A moving 3 set of what appear to be Chaldean women are walking towards me. I turn to them as they pass and say "Hey guys, real quick, I need your opinion on something. The girl in the front of the group, who was clearly the alpha female in this pack, simply looked at me and said "no." Her and her friends continued walking... and giggling.

#4 - I spot a 3 set with their backs turned to me. I gracefully walk around them and do a slight twist so that I am facing them at a 45 degree angle. Much to my surprise, one of them is a much older woman, who I assume is the mother of the two (hot) young girls she has with her. I deliver my opener anyway (in fact, I aspire to someday master the art of the mother/daughter and grandmother/granddaughter type sets that I occasionally see). They gave me their opinions which I can't remember, and I told them I would "take it into consideration," before politely ejecting.

#5 - On a sidewalk which leads from the main strip to a bar that is sort of hidden back behind all of the other establishments, I encounter 3 very pleasing (in their demeanor and aesthetic) young women. I deliver my opener, and they're totally into it, trying to be genuinely helpful. There was one girl in this set that I found myself very attracted to. However, I allowed us to go our separate ways after the opener had run its course, which is my only regret of the evening. Next time (tomorrow night), I will be prepared.

#6 - I enter a popular diner/rooftop bar. I nonchalantly approach a seated two set, turn to them at a 45 degree angle (natch), and deliver the opener. They both get really into it. The girl on my left (who was such a fucking hottie) said "you should tell her something terrible about yourself, like that you kill puppies." I told her that I liked her style and that I would take that into consideration. If I could do this set over again, I would've pushed it harder since I was clearly getting IOIs, but at that point I had resigned myself to the fact that this night was going to consist entirely of approaches and nothing more.

#7 - I leave the bar and once again find myself outside on the sidewalk. I spot a 2 set walking in my direction with a sense of purpose. I turned towards them and begin to deliver my opener. They slow down slightly, but look apprehensive and as if they don't want to be bothered. Suddenly, a guy walking up from behind me yells out "Erin!" and the girls get excited and look at me in a way that indicates that they want to go mingle with their friend who they had been walking towards the entire time (hence their purposeful look). I say "I'll let you go talk with your friend. One of the girls looks at me sympathetically and says "thanks." We go our separate ways.

#8 - Shortly afterwards, in the same location, I encounter a moving 3 set preparing to cross the road. I face them at a 45 degree angle and say "Real quick, I need some female perspective." They didn't even stop and as I watched them walk away, the girl in front says "yeah.... we're busy."

#9 - Same location. I'm walking towards the bar and there are two reasonably chunky women directly in front of me. This was the one instance in which I deviated from my opener all night. I said "Don't worry, I'm not following you. We're just walking in the same direction (credit: Cajun)." They turned around and both started cracking up, saying "we didn't even see you!" They were not only fat, but much older than I had suspected as well. Fortunately, they turned and started heading for a venue in another direction.

#10 - My final set of the night, and probably the most interesting. There were two girls sitting on a ledge outside the bar. I crossed the street so that I could approach them, though it was obvious they were having a deep conversation. I approached, turned toward them at a 45 degree angle and delivered my opener. Both of these girls, one of whom was a 7 and the other possibly an 8 (despite her short hair!) seemed particularly intrigued by my imaginary dilemna. The 8 asked "how old is she?" and I said "well..." trying to quickly think of what age I wanted my imaginary date to be. She interrupted and asked "is this for real or are you just trying to like pick us up or something?" I said "Why would you think that?" And she said "well, some guys do that." "With this line?" I asked. She then said, "no, I can tell you're for real." She then proceeded to give me ideas on how to let my imaginary date down easily. There were a few indicators that HB8 was into me, though you might not pick up on that from the pieces of our conversation I have transcribed here.

All in all, I feel really good about my experience in the field tonight. I will say this: this game is hard, fellas. There's no way around that. I completely agree with Mystery's hypothesis that approach anxiety is genetically hardwired into our being. However, I consider this is a blessing rather than a curse. As others have pointed out, if this shit didn't take hard work, dedication, and eventual ego death, every guy would be pulling girls with consistency, but we all know that isn't the case.

At the same time, I can see myself easily getting addicted to this lifestyle. After the first 4 or 5 sets, approach anxiety begins to feel almost like a "rush" or a "high." I love it. I'm planning on going out to a hot local club tomorrow night and doing the same thing I did tonight, except rather than ejecting after the opener, I will deliver an opener and then use a piece of transition material (cold read, routine, etc.) I'm just going to keep systematically building up my skill set, until I've eventually mastered every step from beginning to end.
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Quote: (07-25-2010 01:21 AM)Abraxas Wrote:  

A moving 3 set of what appear to be Chaldean women are walking towards me.

Chaldean? Do you mean Iraqis?

Aloha!
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Quote: (07-25-2010 01:52 AM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (07-25-2010 01:21 AM)Abraxas Wrote:  

A moving 3 set of what appear to be Chaldean women are walking towards me.

Chaldean? Do you mean Iraqis?

Aloha!

Indeed. There are several Chaldeans in this particular area. Everytime I go out there, a lot of the Chaldean guys will be arm in arm with some of the hottest girls on the strip.
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Good job, but I don't see why you didn't try the follow-ups right away? Approaching without trying any kind of close, why? Maybe I don't understand the Mystery Method...
Step it up quicker - otherwise if you keep adding just a few more lines each time, it would take months to get to the 7-hour duration that Mystery says is required for banging.

A further drawback that I foresee for you is the 1-hour drive - logistics would be pretty bad, and it will be damn hard to get a girl home with you from that club. I once banged a girl who lived an hour's drive from me - and she didn't have a car so I had to pick her up, go out, then go home and have sex, then drive her home, and drive myself back - that's 4 hours of driving total. Needless to say, I did't do it again, even though she was not a bad lay.
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Quote: (07-25-2010 09:50 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Good job, but I don't see why you didn't try the follow-ups right away? Approaching without trying any kind of close, why? Maybe I don't understand the Mystery Method...
Step it up quicker - otherwise if you keep adding just a few more lines each time, it would take months to get to the 7-hour duration that Mystery says is required for banging.

The idea behind leaving immediately after delivering the opener was to get myself accustomed to the act of the cold approach itself. In fact, I did more cold approaches last night than I had done all year up until then. One of the first "missions" that Mystery assigns to his students that are new to the game is to spend a day approaching 20 different sets, simply walking up to them and delivering the opener "Did you guys know that Elvis dyed his hair black?" and then politely ejecting after their response. I think the purpose is to help them have the realization that approaching isn't nearly as scary as a lot of newbies seem to think it is.

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A further drawback that I foresee for you is the 1-hour drive - logistics would be pretty bad, and it will be damn hard to get a girl home with you from that club. I once banged a girl who lived an hour's drive from me - and she didn't have a car so I had to pick her up, go out, then go home and have sex, then drive her home, and drive myself back - that's 4 hours of driving total. Needless to say, I did't do it again, even though she was not a bad lay.

The long drive that is currently required of me in order to arrive among any sort of respectable nightlife is both a blessing and a curse. A curse in the sense that I am forced to spend 2 hours on the road every night that I decide to go sarging (though this isn't so bad as I use the time on the road to listen to spiritual and game-related audio books) and the logistical difficulties that you mentioned. As you pointed out, the chances of pulling a girl out of a bar and then convincing her to ride with me for an hour back to my place are extremely unlikely, and her buying temperature would most likely plummet in the process. However, there is always the chance that I could persuade a girl to take us back to her place, which is something I hope to accomplish within the next month or two.

The positive aspect of the distance is the fact that it is extremely unlikely that I will encounter anyone from my social circle, or even see the same person twice. Because of this, I can sort of treat sarging like a "video game." Since I don't know any of these people, and will most likely never see them again at any point, it's like they don't even really exist, so why should their opinion of me matter? It doesn't.
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Quote: (07-25-2010 02:04 AM)Abraxas Wrote:  

Quote: (07-25-2010 01:52 AM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (07-25-2010 01:21 AM)Abraxas Wrote:  

A moving 3 set of what appear to be Chaldean women are walking towards me.

Chaldean? Do you mean Iraqis?

Aloha!

Indeed. There are several Chaldeans in this particular area. Everytime I go out there, a lot of the Chaldean guys will be arm in arm with some of the hottest girls on the strip.

So you're either in the Sunni Triangle or Detroit?

I've spent some time in Detroit. If that's where you are I have a lot of suggestions to offer. You can burn your Mystery method book.

If you're in Baqubah I can't help you.

Aloha!
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I was initially going to reserve this discussion for PMs, but I've decided I was being overly paranoid. Kona, you are correct, Detroit (or at least that general area) is where I'm referring to. I'm not ready to burn my pick up books just yet, but I'm interested in hearing what you have to say.
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Dude..start a fucking band...even if you suck at first, tell girls about the band, make it for real and serious. You said you got the Heroin Sheik look...so play off of that. Perfect excuse for you to hone in on your alouf, I don't give a shit, artist game...I'm not kidding at all either, I suspect you have a little of that in you already. You write a hella lot, (while I cannot read it all..its a good thing)...

Good luck.

PS - Do not start some gay ass emo band either.
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Abraxas where do you live?
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Personally, when I think of my own, personal approach anxiety, walking up to a girl and just saying something was never what scared me. To me, the part that always worried me and/or made me anxious was the follow-up... what to say next.

Just going up to girls and delivering your opener doesn't address that issue at all, imo.

I find it way more useful to approach sets with the intention of trying to stay in set for as long as possible, as opposed to just trying to approach a certain numbers of sets in one night.

Just my 2 cents...
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