Quick background:
I've been reading manosphere type wisdom for the a bit more than a year now, gradually coming across everything from Seddit, The Game and Boy Toy Story to Chateau Heartiste (Roissy as he apparently used to identify himself), Krauser, Rollo Tomassi, Chase Amante (google him, seriously) and of course Roosh, ROK and this forum (although the last has only been a very recent addition to my reading, as you can tell from my post count).
Personally, I've made huge improvements in my style, life satisfaction and relationships as a result of the advice and ideologies preached through these online mediums. That said, I'm not some suit-wearing millionaire player that spends all day making location-independant income and choosing which of my rotation of models will cook me dinner and dance exotically in front of my private beachhouse. It's a work in progress, heh.
With the noticeable improvement in my life since following non-mainstream, "manosphere/PUA/whatever" advice I know that it's not all some scammy marketing scheme, and if you're on this forum reading then you probably do too. However, I can't shake the feeling that a lot of the advice and discussion here is "the blind leading the blind" or "keyboard jockey" sort of stuff.
For instance, I recently discovered that a while ago there was some sort of clique spat between G Manifesto and various other forum members. If you weren't around for that (like me), you can catch up by glancing at these threads:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-17592.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-17614.html
It all involves a lot of bickering about who are "senior" members of the community, who is "legit" and who is/isn't a mod/has "reputation". All over a mostly anonymous online forum.
Hardly seems like the behaviour of some of the (self proclaimed? aspiring?) coolest, most intellectual men on the planet. Let alone the obvious reality that guys spending thousands of hours posting on online forums are at best synthetically "alpha" and still enjoy their dalliance with the companions who built themselves up from betatude togethor and at worst have nurtured their online persona at the expense of their actual one.
As a mostly solitary endeavour (it's risky/pointless to open my friends up to red-pill wisdom more than a spoonful at a time), I have quite an isolated view of the clientele of this esteemed message board. I'm interested to find out about other member's perception of the legitimacy of the (fellow) forum posters here. If you met them in real life (I know there are meetups, I hope someday I'll go to a couple, need more money for travel first) would they actually be fashionable, intriguing, intellectual, attractive men of world-class caliber? Do they fall along a spectrum, and in what ratios? Are true basement-dwelling or corporate schlub posters more prominent than the odd troll who gets banned?
Regardless of the Roosh V forum's "authenticity", exposure to so much unconventional information is helping me make inroads that I can already see will make ramifications throughout the rest of my life (I would be surprised if I wasn't among the youngest here on this forum). Thank you everyone for your advice and differing opinions, the world needs more platforms for honest, relatively uncensored discussion like this one.
Edit: Full props to Roosh, who is obviously the real deal because he has performed impressive feats but still keeps it very real in his posts about the cost it took and the toll it continuously takes. Other most legit people in the manosphere scene from my perspective are Krauser (who used to have a lot more vids/pics etc. of stuff that proved he is no keyboard jockey) and Chase Amanate (less known I believe, only brief mentions of his personal life in his posts but I've never known one of his thousands of posts or comments to ever be less than absolutely spot on about women).
I've been reading manosphere type wisdom for the a bit more than a year now, gradually coming across everything from Seddit, The Game and Boy Toy Story to Chateau Heartiste (Roissy as he apparently used to identify himself), Krauser, Rollo Tomassi, Chase Amante (google him, seriously) and of course Roosh, ROK and this forum (although the last has only been a very recent addition to my reading, as you can tell from my post count).
Personally, I've made huge improvements in my style, life satisfaction and relationships as a result of the advice and ideologies preached through these online mediums. That said, I'm not some suit-wearing millionaire player that spends all day making location-independant income and choosing which of my rotation of models will cook me dinner and dance exotically in front of my private beachhouse. It's a work in progress, heh.
With the noticeable improvement in my life since following non-mainstream, "manosphere/PUA/whatever" advice I know that it's not all some scammy marketing scheme, and if you're on this forum reading then you probably do too. However, I can't shake the feeling that a lot of the advice and discussion here is "the blind leading the blind" or "keyboard jockey" sort of stuff.
For instance, I recently discovered that a while ago there was some sort of clique spat between G Manifesto and various other forum members. If you weren't around for that (like me), you can catch up by glancing at these threads:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-17592.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-17614.html
It all involves a lot of bickering about who are "senior" members of the community, who is "legit" and who is/isn't a mod/has "reputation". All over a mostly anonymous online forum.
Hardly seems like the behaviour of some of the (self proclaimed? aspiring?) coolest, most intellectual men on the planet. Let alone the obvious reality that guys spending thousands of hours posting on online forums are at best synthetically "alpha" and still enjoy their dalliance with the companions who built themselves up from betatude togethor and at worst have nurtured their online persona at the expense of their actual one.
As a mostly solitary endeavour (it's risky/pointless to open my friends up to red-pill wisdom more than a spoonful at a time), I have quite an isolated view of the clientele of this esteemed message board. I'm interested to find out about other member's perception of the legitimacy of the (fellow) forum posters here. If you met them in real life (I know there are meetups, I hope someday I'll go to a couple, need more money for travel first) would they actually be fashionable, intriguing, intellectual, attractive men of world-class caliber? Do they fall along a spectrum, and in what ratios? Are true basement-dwelling or corporate schlub posters more prominent than the odd troll who gets banned?
Regardless of the Roosh V forum's "authenticity", exposure to so much unconventional information is helping me make inroads that I can already see will make ramifications throughout the rest of my life (I would be surprised if I wasn't among the youngest here on this forum). Thank you everyone for your advice and differing opinions, the world needs more platforms for honest, relatively uncensored discussion like this one.
Edit: Full props to Roosh, who is obviously the real deal because he has performed impressive feats but still keeps it very real in his posts about the cost it took and the toll it continuously takes. Other most legit people in the manosphere scene from my perspective are Krauser (who used to have a lot more vids/pics etc. of stuff that proved he is no keyboard jockey) and Chase Amanate (less known I believe, only brief mentions of his personal life in his posts but I've never known one of his thousands of posts or comments to ever be less than absolutely spot on about women).