[MrStinky]

I am conflicted.

Do I want feminism to be defeated by reason and logic, stop it all together, have an even playing field for men and women in all areas of life (maybe even return to a patriarchal society) and have 1950's style courtship and feminine women --or-- do I want to keep feminism going, allow western women to run wild and be the worst examples of humanity, let the betas deal with them in all areas of life and just clean up and have sex with them as an Alpha?

I haven't decided yet.

[Burdflu]

(05-07-2013 02:10 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

As far as the forum having too many feminist topics, here's my opinion:



Deal with it, bitchez.

This is the everything else forum. If people want to bitch about feminists why shouldn't they be allowed to do it? Where else on the internet can people talk about this stuff freely without being censored by manginas or white knights?

I think there's only two other forums, the RedPill subreddit and the MGTOW forums, both of which are relatively inactive and do not have any serious players post there (so they are uninteresting to read).

If people are tired of reading feminist or female-hate threads, then here's what you do:

1. Don't reply to those threads - vote them 1 star and move on
2. Create value in the forum by creating interesting threads for other people to post in, instead of bitching about what others are doing all the time like little babies


I'm just glad some of you guys aren't the moderators here, otherwise you'd kill this place dead in no time.

I tend to agree with this perspective. You ultimately control what you take in on the internets due to the amount of content available.

Interestingly, there seems to be a backlash here against MRA /MGTOW. I saw the same thing on the Rogan Board. "Alpha" dudes or dudes with game tend to blanket refer to anti-feminists as weak bitches that cannot lift. Women, in these instances, are just considered beings that can't control their hardwiring; thereby absolving them of the responsibility to conduct themselves in an honourable manner.

Some dudes have been scarred deeply by the indirect manifestations of feminism in society, and thus, need to vent and talk about MRA-related things.

Though I don't have relationship issues anymore, I recognize the importance of calling out bullshit where it exists. So I think these discussions should be able to continue to take place in the everything forum.

[Power_Ranger]

There was two limo fires.

One had a group of 30-ish women. 5 died and then a marriage party out celebrating. The bride and some others died.

Only people with mental problems are glad that happens to women, or men for that matter.

[Spike]

Men are from Mars, women are from Venus

The end.

[Blaster]

(05-07-2013 02:26 PM)Burdflu Wrote:  

Interestingly, there seems to be a backlash here against MRA /MGTOW. I saw the same thing on the Rogan Board. "Alpha" dudes or dudes with game tend to blanket refer to anti-feminists as weak bitches that cannot lift. Women, in these instances, are just considered beings that can't control their hardwiring; thereby absolving them of the responsibility to conduct themselves in an honourable manner.

MRA/MGTOW get backlash when they act like weak bitches, without respect to women. To the extent that MRAs get shit from players about women not being able to control their hardwiring, it's usually when the MRA has engaged in blatant wishful thinking and denial of reality.

[Bricks]

I laugh at the guys in here saying "i hardly ever come in this section of the forum" all high and mighty like they spend 24 hours a day fucking chicks and working out.

This is the most popular section of the forum. If you dont enjoy the post dont click on it.

[TheRookie]

Best thing to do is keep it good-humored and laugh at the feminists, rather than write a hate screed. Most girls in America are soft feminists who will dump all the ideology to worship a strong man - the rest are laughable, fat, disgusting, and don't deserve your hate. Just laugh.

[InternationPlayboy]

I agree. I come on here to read about self development, traveling, and bitches. I don't care about the feminazi stuff. To be honest it pisses me off when I do read it, but lots of times I don't even bother reading it. But like Kickboxer said, it's Roosh's forum and he's anti feminist, so I do agree you should expect it. I don't think it adds much value to the forum though.

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-06-2013 11:57 PM)gamepadawan Wrote:  

except the guy the site is name after equally dislikes feminists so... are you going to ban roosh?

Yeah! Ban this Roosh guy! What did he ever do for this forum??

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-07-2013 01:00 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

The upside to foreign chicks might be
- she cooks
- she's thinner

That might be about it, and that's just a maybe. And god forbid you don't speak her native tongue fluently and understand all of her cultural nuances. Fuck with a foreign broad and realize you got to spend every fucking weekend with her familiy?

There's a lot more to foreign women than cooking and being fit (although, those are two pretty nice things!). My favorite thing about foreign women - and I lived abroad for years - is that they are less preternaturally angry than American broads. They don't have "the chip". They ACCEPT the obvious - that men and women are different. Listen to the brilliant Fred Reed:

"In Mexico you don’t marry one of the guys. You don’t marry a child-support bomb waiting to explode without visitation. You don’t marry a hundred pounds of irrational anger looking for an excuse. You marry a woman. The difference…my God, the difference!"

Only problem is, once you bring 'em back to the US, they put on 30 pounds, go on Prozac, and adopt the bitchy attitude of their neighbors :/

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-07-2013 05:45 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

To be honest it pisses me off when I do read it

Why does it piss you off, Playboy?

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-07-2013 02:26 PM)Burdflu Wrote:  

Interestingly, there seems to be a backlash here against MRA /MGTOW.

I have a theory that perhaps you or others can comment on:

I think that there are two main varieties of MRAs. There is the guy who says "WTF happened??" to society. The MRA who looks at how women file 2/3 of divorces b/c they KNOW they will get the house, the kids, the child-support, maybe some alimony, and says "WTF?". Guys who wonder why every college and every company and every gov't has an office to deal with "discrimination against WOMEN!", when women are 60% of college graduates, can get you fired or arrested at will, etc. These guys wonder how society went from relatively normal male/female relationships just 40-50 years ago to what we have now: Fathers are the guys who visit their kids every other weekend and write a check for $8,000 a month. I find these MRAs pretty rational. They still LOVE women, love to have sex with women, chase women...they even hold out hope they'll find a reasonable one. But they learn game b/c they know women trade up, they KNOW they need to protect their money from women, they are self-aware and realistic about the nature of men and women. They HATE how divorce courts and family courts have become "the place where men's money gets redistributed to women". I'm pretty OK with this group - they still love women, but they know what's going on in the world.

But the other MRA is, well, not a happy guy to begin with. He NEVER had any luck with women. Instead of learning and advocating game, he rather say "It's no use! You can't date women! You can't even LOOK at a woman any more! Too dangerous!!" In my mind, these guys are just making excuses. They are just garden-variety losers. They NEVER did well with women, and if they lived in some imaginary pre-feminist utopia 75 yrs ago, they still wouldn't have gotten dates. These guys are hiding behind men's rights to cover up deficiencies in their own selves, deficiencies they are unwilling to try to remedy through continuous self-improvement. These so-called MRA's couldn't get laid in a women's penitentiary with a carton of cigarettes!

The latter group annoy me, as well. You may throw eggs at them...

[Hotwheels]

The thing for guys to remember is if you hate women you're going to have a hard fucking time picking them up as it will bleed into your game.

Keep that in mind the next time you go on some big rant about feminist broads.

[Power_Ranger]

(05-08-2013 11:23 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

The thing for guys to remember is if you hate women you're going to have a hard fucking time picking them up as it will bleed into your game.

Keep that in mind the next time you go on some big rant about feminist broads.

Men are human afterall.

Roosh himself has had a surge of blood and raged at women within ear shot of the woman he wanted to get.

Its not a hatred for women, it is just a hatred for all the shit they can get away with because "teehee I'm a guuurl and nobody calls me on it!"

Now if a guy truly has a hatred for women, he'd be sticking out like a sore thumb.

[Burdflu]

(05-07-2013 07:48 PM)Dexter Morgan Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 02:26 PM)Burdflu Wrote:  

Interestingly, there seems to be a backlash here against MRA /MGTOW.

I have a theory that perhaps you or others can comment on:

I think that there are two main varieties of MRAs. There is the guy who says "WTF happened??" to society. The MRA who looks at how women file 2/3 of divorces b/c they KNOW they will get the house, the kids, the child-support, maybe some alimony, and says "WTF?". Guys who wonder why every college and every company and every gov't has an office to deal with "discrimination against WOMEN!", when women are 60% of college graduates, can get you fired or arrested at will, etc. These guys wonder how society went from relatively normal male/female relationships just 40-50 years ago to what we have now: Fathers are the guys who visit their kids every other weekend and write a check for $8,000 a month. I find these MRAs pretty rational. They still LOVE women, love to have sex with women, chase women...they even hold out hope they'll find a reasonable one. But they learn game b/c they know women trade up, they KNOW they need to protect their money from women, they are self-aware and realistic about the nature of men and women. They HATE how divorce courts and family courts have become "the place where men's money gets redistributed to women". I'm pretty OK with this group - they still love women, but they know what's going on in the world.

But the other MRA is, well, not a happy guy to begin with. He NEVER had any luck with women. Instead of learning and advocating game, he rather say "It's no use! You can't date women! You can't even LOOK at a woman any more! Too dangerous!!" In my mind, these guys are just making excuses. They are just garden-variety losers. They NEVER did well with women, and if they lived in some imaginary pre-feminist utopia 75 yrs ago, they still wouldn't have gotten dates. These guys are hiding behind men's rights to cover up deficiencies in their own selves, deficiencies they are unwilling to try to remedy through continuous self-improvement. These so-called MRA's couldn't get laid in a women's penitentiary with a carton of cigarettes!

The latter group annoy me, as well. You may throw eggs at them...

Well said. I'm already starting to like this place more than the rogan board.

[Hotwheels]

(05-08-2013 12:18 PM)Power_Ranger Wrote:  

(05-08-2013 11:23 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

The thing for guys to remember is if you hate women you're going to have a hard fucking time picking them up as it will bleed into your game.

Keep that in mind the next time you go on some big rant about feminist broads.

Men are human afterall.

Roosh himself has had a surge of blood and raged at women within ear shot of the woman he wanted to get.

And how did that work out?

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Being anti-feminist isn't the same as being anti-woman. Some of the biggest feminist enablers I've ever known have been the pandering gray-bearded Baby Boomer men who were my bosses and/or college profs.

Their assertions about women being "oppressed" conveniently ignore that the species evolved -- and the society was built -- along biological lines. This makes women think they were kept down, when in fact they did not possess the muscular power to have put in the infrastructure they now enjoy (i.e. railroads, the power grid, skyscrapers, etc.). These same people also allege women to be morally superior, among other things.

This, in turn, creates little monsters who are angry about their alleged "oppression," when that's really a misreading of history. We have to deal with these women every day and since their worldview is based on falsehoods, it's little different than dealing with people who believe in ghosts or astrology or that the world is flat. Dealing with such angry women is often like defusing a bomb and I think that's part-and-parcel of the whole game culture.

How can you game what you don't understand?

Since most younger guys aren't hip to all this yet, IMO it's important we write about this because they search the Web looking for schooling. I was once once of these guys. We've all talked about the female culture of entitlement, but it's important to understand how that arose -- and we can blame the gray beards as much as the original feminists for keeping "pretty lies" alive.

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-08-2013 11:23 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

The thing for guys to remember is if you hate women you're going to have a hard fucking time picking them up as it will bleed into your game.

Keep that in mind the next time you go on some big rant about feminist broads.

This seems like something of a strawman argument - I don't know many people (other than a few real losers) who "hate women". Hating feminists does not = hating women, any more than hating Nazis = hating germans or hating the Yankees = hating baseball.

[Lemmo]

(05-08-2013 01:47 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Being anti-feminist isn't the same as being anti-woman. Some of the biggest feminist enablers I've ever known have been the pandering gray-bearded Baby Boomer men who were my bosses and/or college profs.

Their assertions about women being "oppressed" conveniently ignore that the species evolved -- and the society was built -- along biological lines. This makes women think they were kept down, when in fact they did not possess the muscular power to have put in the infrastructure they now enjoy (i.e. railroads, the power grid, skyscrapers, etc.). These same people also allege women to be morally superior, among other things.

This, in turn, creates little monsters who are angry about their alleged "oppression," when that's really a misreading of history. We have to deal with these women every day and since their worldview is based on falsehoods, it's little different than dealing with people who believe in ghosts or astrology or that the world is flat. Dealing with such angry women is often like defusing a bomb and I think that's part-and-parcel of the whole game culture.

How can you game what you don't understand?

Since most younger guys aren't hip to all this yet, IMO it's important we write about this because they search the Web looking for schooling. I was once once of these guys. We've all talked about the female culture of entitlement, but it's important to understand how that arose -- and we can blame the gray beards as much as the original feminists for keeping "pretty lies" alive.

Yeah, a lot of guys here throw out accusations of "hating" women whenever someone say something that doesn't conform to their pedestalized view of women. For example, I could say women are short and fat and weak compared to men. This is objective truth obvious to anyone with any powers of observation and easily confirmed statistically. But blue pillers, feminists, etc. will say it is hating women because shortness and fatness and weakness are generally considered inferior qualities.

Women possess a lot of undesirable qualities (undesirable socially but desirable for their survival) and the forum, especially the game forum, centers around understanding these qualities and using them to manipulate women rather than holding the pedestalized view of women that leads to men being frustrated and manipulated.

The guys who talk about women as limited creatures best used for sex and pet-like companionship get it. The blue pillers instead want to make women out to be more than they are, resulting in them either saddling up the white horse when they perceive an attack on their precious treasures or being consumed by hate when reality doesn't conform with their unrealistic view of women.

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-08-2013 07:11 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

Women possess a lot of undesirable qualities (undesirable socially but desirable for their survival)

Very keen observation. You can't "hate" women for being the way they are any more than you can hate a shark who might want to take a bite out of you ... these are organic creatures operating primarily by instinct, and those instincts were shaped thousands or even millions of years ago by evolution.

But that doesn't mean you should pretend those traits don't exist.

[Samseau]

(05-08-2013 08:06 PM)Dexter Morgan Wrote:  

(05-08-2013 07:11 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

Women possess a lot of undesirable qualities (undesirable socially but desirable for their survival)

Very keen observation. You can't "hate" women for being the way they are any more than you can hate a shark who might want to take a bite out of you ... these are organic creatures operating primarily by instinct, and those instincts were shaped thousands or even millions of years ago by evolution.

But that doesn't mean you should pretend those traits don't exist.

That's ridiculous. I can most certainly hate a shark, or any other animal. Why should a man give a shit if it's their fault or not?

[Hades]

I'm sure this has been said many times, but just being pissy in general is anti game.
Hating women is definitely anti game.
Having negative attitudes is anti game.
It would be better to channel this resentment into a lack of respect for women (if you believe that they act like children) because caring less is solid game.

In the two years I have occasionally read Jezebel, not once did anything ever written there inspire respect from me. I can't hate the women writing it, even though they are stupid and obtuse, because I understand that my goals require hard work and self accountability and that their goals require self victimization and pleas for the whole world to change. It's easy to hate if you share their victimized mindset, and it's very important to differentiate hate from lack of respect.

[Samseau]

Exactly Hades. Just because someone doesn't take women seriously does not make someone a women hater.

[InternationPlayboy]

(05-07-2013 07:33 PM)Dexter Morgan Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 05:45 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

To be honest it pisses me off when I do read it

Why does it piss you off, Playboy?

I guess I should have been more clear. I don't mean I'm pissed at the people who write it. The actual article itself kind of pisses me off most times. The stories of attention whoring and false rapes. That shit is annoying, and to be honest I prefer not to read about it, and usually don't. Just knowing this kind if stuff goes on makes me want to double face palm. I don't see it much around me, I try and avoid it and look at more positive things.

[Dexter Morgan]

(05-08-2013 08:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

That's ridiculous. I can most certainly hate a shark, or any other animal. Why should a man give a shit if it's their fault or not?

Sure, but you can also hate the rain, the ocean, and other forces of nature. But you're wasting your mental energy (not to mention, being a fool) if you spend your time thinking "That damn rain - it came down just to ruin my day!!". Likewise, a shark doesn't plot to eat you...it probably doesn't know it ate you...it acts on instinct, not introspection. Well, women aren't animals, but they do act on instinct, more than they realize.