[The Pirate]

As a 38 year old I am pretty ok with 1-2 rounds compared to before when I`d normally go for 5-6 rounds a night. However, I don`t really see the problem unless it´s your ego talking to you. If you are "fullfiled" with only a few rounds that`s totally ok. It`s the same as with eating, you don`t continue eating when you are full to prove anything. Unless you are going for the steak challenge, which is lame by any means. I have never used condoms, and for sure couldn`t use it now. I`d have more pleassure having a glass of water.

[Prosal]

(05-03-2013 09:34 AM)gandt Wrote:  

You are talking about physical stamina.

Roosh is talking about sexual pleasure.

I don't see how being able to row a shit load has anything to do with being able to manage your sexual pleasure

Well, you are right, it has nothing to do with Roosh question, but in fact I answered to a poster who stated (if I understood correctly) that cardio could help to ejaculate faster. That said, to answer you, I think that serious cardio training (and especially rower, which is the most difficult) teaches you the DESIRE and the WILLPOWER to last. Hmm. Well, thinking of it, sports like boxing also. Imagine all the willpower that requires a 12 rounds fight. With a girl, I have the same state of mind than a boxer entering in the ring. I have to last the 12 rounds - without ejaculating.

[MidniteSpecial]

(05-02-2013 09:48 PM)tiggaling Wrote:  

I'm with the Taoists/Tantrists who believe the ejaculating multiple times can weaken your sex drive or even vital energy.

I prefer to ejaculate once... then just have intercourse for as long as I want to and not ejaculate a second time. I find the 2nd time weakens me and so then it takes a much longer to bounce back from that into wanting to have sex again.

But if I ejaculate for round 2, 12-24 hours later, or even even up two-three days later, then I can just increase the energy and enjoy it and want to have a lot of sex without ejaculating.

The best understanding of Taoist ideas I think you can find in Dan Reid's excellent book, "Sex, Health and Longevity"

http://www.amazon.com/Tao-Health-Sex-Lon...067164811X

One of the best books I own.

[Gator_McKlusky]

I've never been able to cum quickly, even back when I was a horny teenager. I have to bang a girl until I'm exhausted, take a five minute breather and go at it again. Usually the second round gets me there. Forget cumming a second time in one night. I am the absolute worst for quickies.

I've found that exercise that increases blood flow to your lower extremities and bolstering your testosterone helps. Running or squats and deadlifts. Also, load up on zinc. May be a placebo effect, but I think it helps.

[Parlay44]

Quote:

I'm with the Taoists/Tantrists who believe the ejaculating multiple times can weaken your sex drive or even vital energy.

These guys are probably vegetarians and/or malnourished. I doubt they could come more than once in a session even if they wanted to.

[Sphere]

(05-02-2013 08:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

You older guys have this problem? Lately I have to meditate on my nut so it arrives, especially for round 2 or beyond. It's getting to the point where I'm initiating less sex if I think the nut will take too long.

Sex still feels good for me, especially raw dog which I usually do, but the orgasm is just getting so far off. I don't masturbate to porn much (maybe 1x a week), so I doubt that's the problem.

Yes, but at 50 I do NOT consider it a problem. I get hard, stay hard and go to town. When I fuck them, they stay fucked. I can always go doggie if I need to get there quickly.

[Spike]

(05-02-2013 08:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

You older guys have this problem? Lately I have to meditate on my nut so it arrives, especially for round 2 or beyond. It's getting to the point where I'm initiating less sex if I think the nut will take too long.

Sex still feels good for me, especially raw dog which I usually do, but the orgasm is just getting so far off. I don't masturbate to porn much (maybe 1x a week), so I doubt that's the problem.

I have this "problem" also. I call it a luxury problem of having had lots of sex with lots of different girls. You get desensitized after a while.

[MidniteSpecial]

(05-03-2013 10:42 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Quote:

I'm with the Taoists/Tantrists who believe the ejaculating multiple times can weaken your sex drive or even vital energy.

These guys are probably vegetarians and/or malnourished. I doubt they could come more than once in a session even if they wanted to.

Very closed minded assumption. How about this, would you want to fight someone after busting a nut? Do you feel like going out after busting a nut?

Muhammad Ali would refrain from sex months prior to a fight.

Little did he know if he had raw sex without coming he would have built up even more strength and vigor.

Miles Davis would never have sex before a show.

In France male orgasm is called 'petit morte' or little death.

The reason women live longer than man is because they don't ejaculate.

Every time you cum you are giving your life away. Literally.

If you are young cum all you want. If you are getting older quickly and have fatigue take a look deeper at the bigger picture.

Plus Taoists can eat meat.

[Spader]

This might be specific to my warped brain, but unless the girl is crushingly hot or dirty it's difficult to finish. I do have a specific look/body type I like (thin) and if she doesn't fit that profile we could be there a while. Have had some GFs where it drove them nuts. Most chicks take it personally. I would just blame hangovers, etc..

Strange speeds the process for me, as I'm sure familiarity lessens the experience for many (most?) guys.

[augen sehen]

I think I internalized all the feminist bitching about men who get off too early and then roll over and go to sleep, leaving the women unsatisfied, so since I started having sex I'd hold off on my nut until the woman came. I've actually had simultaneous orgasms a few times with a few different girls, its actually good for them to emotionally bond with you (they feel more sexually compatible) but to me its not a big deal.

Its been hard (hehh) the past few years since I sometimes have to keep going for ages, long after the woman has cum, and with a rubber she starts to get sensitive and then its just annoying if she feels she can't cum again while I'm pounding her.

[Blaster]

34 - yes but it's semi-random.

One thing I've noticed that if I've been lazy as shit, haven't worked out in a week, and am feeling soft and low-testosterone, and haven't had sex in a few days I find it's easier to orgasm quickly. It'll be a weak orgasm but doesn't take too long to achieve. I wouldn't trade the rock-solid erection and sexual desire that comes from spending time in the gym for fast orgasms, though.

I suspect there's also a vaginal quality factor. Most obviously a very large, loose vagina is likely to take longer than a tighter one, but there could be subtler factors as well (texture, lubricants, etc.).

[el mechanico]

(05-03-2013 11:08 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 08:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

You older guys have this problem? Lately I have to meditate on my nut so it arrives, especially for round 2 or beyond. It's getting to the point where I'm initiating less sex if I think the nut will take too long.

Sex still feels good for me, especially raw dog which I usually do, but the orgasm is just getting so far off. I don't masturbate to porn much (maybe 1x a week), so I doubt that's the problem.

I have this "problem" also. I call it a luxury problem of having had lots of sex with lots of different girls. You get desensitized after a while.

You'd like to think so but no. I'm 43 and don't have this "problem"

[Samseau]

(05-03-2013 08:48 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

Roosh, where is the problem ? ...girls enjoy long sessions.

Because it doesn't matter if she comes or not

[Giovonny]

(05-02-2013 08:59 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

It's a boredom problem.

I agree.

Having alot of sex can make sex boring, even more so if you're having it with the same woman every time, doing it the same way every time, and never experiencing anything new or fresh.

Basically, our minds get desensitized to the excitement and physical sensation of sex. The feeling dulls. This is like anything in life. Eating your favorite food everyday will lead to getting bored with your favorite food.

The answer: ?

I say, live a more exciting life, have more exciting sex. Live your fantasies. Try new things.

Having sex is relatively easy. Having sex EXACTLY THE WAY YOU WANT, EXACTLY WHEN YOU WANT, with an 8+ is a bit more of a challenge. A fun challenge.

It's important to create the mood and ambiance that you want. Sex should become less spontaneous and more a designed lifestyle. Custom design your sex life to fit your current needs.

Spontaneous sex usually means the woman is is control. Custom designed sex means we control and plan out the experience.

I prefer it first thing in the morning. Once I get a girl in my rotation, I tell her to come over first thing in the morning on Saturday or Sunday. I like to start my weekends with kinky sex. We bang, shower, have brunch, go for a swim, go workout, go to the farmers market, etc. Then, I relax, make dinner and read the forum while most guys are just getting started to go out and chase p*ssy. My sexual needs are satisfied before 12:00 (noon)

And,

Take a break from sex, focus on other things. Sex is overrated, im my opinion. Many other things can be more fulfilling.

Alcohol is an issue for alot of guys. Fatigue is another issue. Stress is another.

If you are bored with your sex life, change your sex life.

I suspect Roosh is just desensitized and needs to take a break and come back with a fresh perspective and gameplan.

[Power_Ranger]

If you're going to research why you're losing the ability to cum in the way you want I'd be wary of all the different avenues you can take.

A lot of advice can vary if you are cut/un-cut.

[speakeasy]

It dawned on me late last year that my horniness levels are on the decline. Getting random boners through the day like I did in my youth is pretty much a thing of the past. And I do work out regularly in case anyone says I just need to hit the gym. Never thought I'd see that day. Just take in stride. It's part of the aging process. In a way it's a good thing. I'd hate to be as horny at 65 as I was at 20 when all that will be available to me in old age is old women.

[Zaki]

I was a late bloomer in terms of loosing the V card at 23. I knew I was going to get laid and it being my first time I was told if its your first time you cum pretty quick. I thought I should blast one before meeting her so I did. Started having sex and after a few hours and even in the morning still didnt have an orgasm. The most frustrating thing ever. It took like the 3rd or 4th time after going a few days without busting a nut I finally came even then I had to think of another girl. That`s what porn does to you I guess.

Normally I try and limit how much I wank but Im currently in a stressful exam period so cant afford to be distracted by ho[/align]rniness.

[thegmanifesto]

(05-03-2013 01:46 PM)Zaki Wrote:  

I was a late bloomer in terms of loosing the V card at 23. I knew I was going to get laid and it being my first time I was told if its your first time you cum pretty quick. I thought I should blast one before meeting her so I did. Started having sex and after a few hours and even in the morning still didnt have an orgasm. The most frustrating thing ever. It took like the 3rd or 4th time after going a few days without busting a nut I finally came even then I had to think of another girl. That`s what porn does to you I guess.

Interesting take.

I think the younger generations with readily available p0rn are going to be screwed (so to speak).

But this is good news for us that didn't grow up with it.

It should make our careers last another 10-20 years past what they should have because of non-existent competition from the younger ones.

(05-03-2013 12:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

You'd like to think so but no. I'm 43 and don't have this "problem"

Me neither although I am younger than you.

Again, I think this may have to do with when we grew up.

[Zaki]

Well Im still new to getting laid so havnt fully assessed the impact porn/wanking is having on my ability to enjoy sex or orgasm but I eventually want to limit it when I finish University and start a proper job/routine getting laid more consistently. Hopefully the damage if there is any will be reversible or not too impacting.

[soup]

It might behoove you guys who feel like you timing is off to read "Resurrecting Sex". It's a book that deals with sex incongruity.

It's very ignorant to game, but gives good insight into how anxiety works.

Anxiety is the biggest barricade to sex.

[michelin]

yes, it takes longer but the good news is (at least for me) that you don't come too fast, I feel like I'm in control now. I prefer one or two good and long sessions than previously five coming-too-fast ones.

[soup]

If you aren't trying to run social circle game, it probably isn't important.

[Aliblahba]

Just because a girl passes the boner test doesn't mean she'll pass the nut test.

[VincentVinturi]

Deep, rhythmic breathing helps move the orgasm along and it comes on in big, distinct waves. Very nice sensation.

I think the tendency is to clench the muscles of your body to force the orgasm and it can engage too many compensatory muscles that have nothing to do with ejaculation per se. It's the same thing in singing. So:

1. Breathing

2. Relaxing unrelated muscle groups

[Hotwheels]

Need to revise my previous post.

Can only cum with a condom doggie style.