[WestCoast]

Thank you for proving OG's thread to be correct.

(04-28-2013 09:43 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 07:27 PM)houston Wrote:  

Tall, good looking guys will probably have some of the worst game and will have a breakdown if thrown in a club or spot where they wont be any girl's type.

Disagree.

Good looking guys still have to have the essentials if they want to get laid. The essentials being:
-Be socially normal
-Be able to hold a (somewhat) interesting conversation
-Be able to physically escalate
-Be funny
-Know how to close

Quote:

I can't imagine most tall, pretty model types being able to go out during the day and trying to get numbers. You still have to be able to hold a conversation and approach like everyone else.

You would be amazed at how easy it can be during the day time. Making eye contact alone with girls gets them thinking about you.

At a coffee shop, I made eye contact with this cute girl at a couple times over a couple days. Later on she offered me a seat at her table, so I could talk to her.

Made eye contact with this hot-as-balls girl a couple times while working on school project with some group members. When I left to get some cheap food for lunch, she walked up to them, and gave her number and name to them, so I could contact her.

[All or Nothing]

(04-28-2013 09:45 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Thank you for proving OG's thread to be correct.

How did I prove it was correct?

I might be "good-looking", but I still had to put in a lot of work to improve socially. I still had to learn "game". Shit, I still have A LOT to learn.

[WestCoast]

In my entire life I have had zero girls ask for my phone number. Get it?

You still need game, the bar is just lower. Pretty simple. Hence why we should all max out looks, lift etc. etc. Your rebuttal was pretty much a perfect example. Sky is the limit for you, that's a good thing.

(04-28-2013 09:51 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 09:45 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Thank you for proving OG's thread to be correct.

How did I prove it was correct?

I might be "good-looking", but I still had to put in a lot of work to improve socially. I still had to learn "game". Shit, I still have A LOT to learn.

[Screwston]

(04-28-2013 09:43 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 07:27 PM)houston Wrote:  

Tall, good looking guys will probably have some of the worst game and will have a breakdown if thrown in a club or spot where they wont be any girl's type.

Disagree.

Good looking guys still have to have the essentials if they want to get laid. The essentials being:
-Be socially normal
-Be able to hold a (somewhat) interesting conversation
-Be able to physically escalate
-Be funny
-Know how to close

Quote:

I can't imagine most tall, pretty model types being able to go out during the day and trying to get numbers. You still have to be able to hold a conversation and approach like everyone else.

You would be amazed at how easy it can be during the day time. Making eye contact alone with girls gets them thinking about you.

At a coffee shop, I made eye contact with this cute girl at a couple times over a couple days. Later on she offered me a seat at her table, so I could talk to her.

Made eye contact with this hot-as-balls girl a couple times while working on school project with some group members. When I left to get some cheap food for lunch, she walked up to them, and gave her number and name to them, so I could contact her.

PM me a picture of you. I'm curious as to how you look if it's so easy.

[thegmanifesto]

Do any of you guys have friends that are good looking?

These guys have to work hard as well.

They still need Game.

A good looking guy who doesn't have Game and doesn't know how to Close, doesn't get girls except for the occasional fluke.

And everyone gets the occasional fluke.

[Screwston]

This thread needs more Deb Auchery.

[el mechanico]

This thread should be called.. " Cali sucks for pussy and we're turning into haters"

[WestCoast]

(04-28-2013 10:03 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Do any of you guys have friends that are good looking?

These guys have to work hard as well.

They still need Game.

A good looking guy who doesn't have Game and doesn't know how to Close, doesn't get girls except for the occasional fluke.

And everyone gets the occasional fluke.

Another bad response surprised at the G today. Work hard is relative. If All or nothing simply has to "make eye contact" and get a girl to come over and hand over a phone number that's ridiculously easy.

Here's my Friday night:

MeOpen)
Her: what?
Me: repeat
Her: Oh yeah my dad is blank. (Head turn)
Me: ramble until contact is made where she will engage again
Her: cool.
Me: another diatribe.
Her "ohh really blah blah... Full sentence"
Me: short sentence
Her: long sentence followed by "I need to check my coat"
Me: (realize her friend thinks I'm not a "good catch")
Me: chat up friend till she likes me as a "possible friend" get her to laugh + joke.
Me: "gotta go grab a drink" (leave before friend comes back)
(Now have 5-10 minutes to open up a reasonably attractive girl + game + have both girls chit chat if I am "up to par")
Me and new set, set starts laughing. I'm in with group 1 for sure for at least the next 20.
Back and forth we go.
Me: return back to girl 1, now she gives me a smile instead of screening the crowd. Run game again... Move around club etc etc. start making out. "Oh my god you're totally not my type, I don't understand"... So forth.

Example of good looking friend:
Him: (open)
Her: haha that's funny I did blah blah blah blah (already engaged in conversation)
Him: ramble
Her friend: "wow he's hot I am going to leave you two alone" (she walks away)
Him: let's get shots
Her: "yeah!".... (See how this is a joke?)

If you get eye contact from a girl that's a layup on a two foot rim with a tennis ball.

Nah Cali is awesome for pussy and there is no hate at all, most people are just too insecure and believe I'm typing "angrily" when i'm just stating facts. If you have good looks life is easier nothing new here, always max out looks it even helps in making money. I used to be very bad looking, now I'm average to above average, the change is quite obvious, I can fuck up a few times and it slides, the more attracted to you she is from hello the more mistakes you can make, this isn't rocket science.

I'm a masochist, so it's almost more fun dealing with an uphill battle. Hard work isn't hard if its fun.

[DVY]

I think everybody has a good point. This subject has been beaten to death.

G-man- you are abs. right. Some dudes are hopeless. Girl strips to lingerie and hops in his bed. Did this dude bang? Nope. True story.

Westcoast- yea, man. Doing work is important.

Long-term, I would say its more important than being good-looking. W/age, your looks will fade. Your time in the pits will pay dividends. Extremely good-looking dudes usually have very little rejection in their lives. This is not healthy. When shit goes sideways, they fall much lower than the grinder.

Edit- Sidenote, good-looking dudes who have a heavy sports background seem to deal w/the rejection at super-human levels. The football and volleyball players I ran around with in undergrad were heavy hitters. Dudes didn't give a flying F. Watching them shooting frat girl's ego to shatters was pure comedy. The "grace under pressure" comes better to those who compete against other high-ranked athletes...

[thegmanifesto]

(04-28-2013 10:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Here's my Friday night:

MeOpen)
Her: what?
Me: repeat
Her: Oh yeah my dad is blank. (Head turn)
Me: ramble until contact is made where she will engage again
Her: cool.
Me: another diatribe.
Her "ohh really blah blah... Full sentence"
Me: short sentence
Her: long sentence followed by "I need to check my coat"
Me: (realize her friend thinks I'm not a "good catch")
Me: chat up friend till she likes me as a "possible friend" get her to laugh + joke.
Me: "gotta go grab a drink" (leave before friend comes back)
(Now have 5-10 minutes to open up a reasonably attractive girl + game + have both girls chit chat if I am "up to par")
Me and new set, set starts laughing. I'm in with group 1 for sure for at least the next 20.
Back and forth we go.
Me: return back to girl 1, now she gives me a smile instead of screening the crowd. Run game again... Move around club etc etc. start making out. "Oh my god you're totally not my type, I don't understand"... So forth.

I can barely understand this drivel (is this a kid doing a text chat?), but don't take this personally, but this Game sucks.

I would walk away from a hot girl saying this to me.

Quote:

Example of good looking friend:
Him: (open)
Her: haha that's funny I did blah blah blah blah (already engaged in conversation)
Him: ramble
Her friend: "wow he's hot I am going to leave you two alone" (she walks away)
Him: let's get shots
Her: "yeah!".... (See how this is a joke?)

Now this was good Game.

The guy, opened, established rapport then trial closed. This is sales 101.

The first example was sales failure.

Equal looks, guy #2 stomps on the first example night after night.

[WestCoast]

We will agree to disagree. If people don't understand the difference I don't even know what to say. The obvious question, if every hot girl treats you in the same fashion do you "walk away"? No, you win the battle. Bolded is particularly hilarious as I already stated we use the same opening lines verbatim (tone as well). Again good looking guys have no idea how to win over a situation.

Exiting thread on that note, must say this was possibly the worst post I've ever seen from the G (also no offense we clearly disagree).

(04-28-2013 11:02 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 10:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Here's my Friday night:

MeOpen)
Her: what?
Me: repeat
Her: Oh yeah my dad is blank. (Head turn)
Me: ramble until contact is made where she will engage again
Her: cool.
Me: another diatribe.
Her "ohh really blah blah... Full sentence"
Me: short sentence
Her: long sentence followed by "I need to check my coat"
Me: (realize her friend thinks I'm not a "good catch")
Me: chat up friend till she likes me as a "possible friend" get her to laugh + joke.
Me: "gotta go grab a drink" (leave before friend comes back)
(Now have 5-10 minutes to open up a reasonably attractive girl + game + have both girls chit chat if I am "up to par")
Me and new set, set starts laughing. I'm in with group 1 for sure for at least the next 20.
Back and forth we go.
Me: return back to girl 1, now she gives me a smile instead of screening the crowd. Run game again... Move around club etc etc. start making out. "Oh my god you're totally not my type, I don't understand"... So forth.

I can barely understand this drivel (is this a kid doing a text chat?), but don't take this personally, but this Game sucks.

I would walk away from a hot girl saying this to me.

Quote:

Example of good looking friend:
Him: (open)
Her: haha that's funny I did blah blah blah blah (already engaged in conversation)
Him: ramble
Her friend: "wow he's hot I am going to leave you two alone" (she walks away)
Him: let's get shots
Her: "yeah!".... (See how this is a joke?)

Now this was good Game.

The guy, opened, established rapport then trial closed. This is sales 101.

The first example was sales failure.

Equal looks, guy #2 stomps on the first example night after night.

[EisenBarde]

I don't see any hate in this thread at all, for the most part I'm just really drunk and joining in the splitting hairs.

I aint that pretty to look at, but there are ways to get them looking.

[thegmanifesto]

(04-28-2013 11:07 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

We will agree to disagree. If people don't understand the difference I don't even know what to say.

The difference is easy to see.

You were babbling incoherently.

Your friend was spitting text book Good Clean Game.

Quote:

Bolded is particularly hilarious as I already stated we use the same opening lines verbatim (tone as well).

Yeah, real hilarious.

You established no rapport.

I love how you always make my point when you try to argue.

Stay in finance. Steer clear from sales. (This is not a diss. I am saying this because I like you. This might be the best, real advice anyone ever gives you on this forum. You might think I am being "mean" or "picking on you" but anyone who doesn't tell you this, doesn't have your best interests in mind).

Quote:

Exiting thread on that note, must say this was possibly the worst post I've ever seen from the G (also no offense we clearly disagree).

Come on.

Now this sounds like sour grapes. Possibley for when I reduced you to a slobbering fool trying to explain yourself recently and you melted down.

Don't hold grudges. Nothing good will come from them.

Stay positive.

And I would return the favor and say this is your worst post too, but we all know you had way worse and more nonsensical posts in the past.

But I won't mention that. I am cool like that.

[WestCoast]

Fine I will happily refute this for you. I work in sales. Most guys have no idea that finance is sales. All of life in general is sales. People who know jack shit about finance think the job is all key board jockeying, that is for the first 3-5 years, after that it is cold sales, build relationships, sell.

I wrote the full length to make the point, good looking guys have warm leads ugly guys have cold leads. Is that not sales? But this is just a pissing match again. I will happily be the 21 year old know nothing. Carry on.

Feel free to "melt me down and bitch slap me around though". Come on get real. Cold leads are harder than warm leads. That's the point of the whole thread.

That is the title of the post, easier to learn sales off warm leads or cold ones. It's no contest.

Your argument is basically that warm sales is harder than cold sales, that's a ridiculous view IMHO.

There is a reason I strongly believe I won't need a job sooner than later and that has nothing to do with an excel comp sheet or an M&A model. Thank you for the advice I shall stay in finance and "keyboard jockey" my way to a high net worth... Because that's how the industry works.. right? Thank you for giving me information on Wall Street based on your non-job experience. I'll stay in finance but never go into sales, that's like saying stay in football training to be a wide receiver, but don't train to run fast or jump high = wtf?

People think I am getting upset when really I am just getting annoyed, wasted time is disgusting and that is exactly what this thread has now done. Wasted time.

If people are stupid enough to believe warm sales are harder, that's truly nonsensical.

(04-28-2013 11:39 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 11:07 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

We will agree to disagree. If people don't understand the difference I don't even know what to say.

The difference is easy to see.

You were babbling incoherently.

Your friend was spitting text book Good Clean Game.

Quote:

Bolded is particularly hilarious as I already stated we use the same opening lines verbatim (tone as well).

Yeah, real hilarious.

You established no rapport.

I love how you always make my point when you try to argue.

Stay in finance. Steer clear from sales. (This is not a diss. I am saying this because I like you. This might be the best, real advice anyone ever gives you on this forum. You might think I am being "mean" or "picking on you" but anyone who doesn't tell you this, doesn't have your best interests in mind).

Quote:

Exiting thread on that note, must say this was possibly the worst post I've ever seen from the G (also no offense we clearly disagree).

Come on.

Now this sounds like sour grapes. Possibley for when I reduced you to a slobbering fool trying to explain yourself recently and you melted down.

Don't hold grudges. Nothing good will come from them.

Stay positive.

And I would return the favor and say this is your worst post too, but we all know you had way worse and more nonsensical posts in the past.

But I won't mention that. I am cool like that.

[Tim9000]

(04-28-2013 11:02 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 10:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Here's my Friday night:

MeOpen)
Her: what?
Me: repeat
Her: Oh yeah my dad is blank. (Head turn)
Me: ramble until contact is made where she will engage again
Her: cool.
Me: another diatribe.
Her "ohh really blah blah... Full sentence"
Me: short sentence
Her: long sentence followed by "I need to check my coat"
Me: (realize her friend thinks I'm not a "good catch")
Me: chat up friend till she likes me as a "possible friend" get her to laugh + joke.
Me: "gotta go grab a drink" (leave before friend comes back)
(Now have 5-10 minutes to open up a reasonably attractive girl + game + have both girls chit chat if I am "up to par")
Me and new set, set starts laughing. I'm in with group 1 for sure for at least the next 20.
Back and forth we go.
Me: return back to girl 1, now she gives me a smile instead of screening the crowd. Run game again... Move around club etc etc. start making out. "Oh my god you're totally not my type, I don't understand"... So forth.

I can barely understand this drivel (is this a kid doing a text chat?), but don't take this personally, but this Game sucks.

I would walk away from a hot girl saying this to me.

You missed the point by trying to understand his made-up dialogue too much. He's simply saying that he has to use persistence as well as social techniques (i.e. opening the 2nd set for social proof) to get an audition, whereas the good looking guy doesn't need to to keep the interaction going. I think he's admitting that he doesn't have the skills to open a set and have women commonly respond by being willing to engage with him right away, and so he frequently muddles through it. It's "lousy game," but that's what a man with normal social skills (in terms of extemporaneous humor and charisma) is capable of when opening a set. Not everyone can be witty and charismatic far beyond the mean. A good-looking man doesn't need to be, but women set the bar high for the average looking man. He has to be relatively brilliant socially or he's going to have to run a lot of sets that involve plenty of grasping for what to say next to keep things going. Sometimes everything will go right.

Unfortunately "good game" for the average-looking in many venues means being "way above average in real-time social interactions". The solution for the average looking man is to be brilliantly compelling. But that's a tough problem to solve, because things like humor involve large swaths of the brain operating in unison. Realistically, a person can only improve so much. And a man can be funny but just not fast enough, or fast but just not funny enough, or have humor that comes naturally to him but that his targets can't understand, depending on who they are. It's just tough.

[Tim9000]

(04-29-2013 04:37 AM)Tim9000 Wrote:  

... I think he's admitting that he doesn't have the skills to open a set and have women commonly respond by being willing to engage with him right away, and so he frequently muddles through it. ...

To be clear, I'm not saying that WC was implying that he has only average social skills, just that he was implying that he doesn't have "gifted" level skills that a man who isn't tall or fantastic looking needs in order to /predictably/ overcome indifferent women in the first few moments.

[RouteBackwards]

(04-27-2013 12:34 PM)soup Wrote:  

I don't think you can make blanket statements about one type of guy's game being better for individual players than another's.

Game that works for a less attractive man is congruent to less attractive man. Same can be said for guys of varying values. A handsome guy who uses an mediocre looking guy's game.. that might back fire due to incongruity, and visa versa.

I think there is a large misconception that attractive men = high level game no matter what they say.

That is not the case.

Women will blow out an attractive man just as quick as they will blow out an ugly man, because like you said, if said man displays incongruence in his game, females sense that something is up.

[WestCoast]

This is straight up retarded. If a girl finds you attractive from hello is this girl going to be easier to sell on having sex with you? Yes or no. Obvious answer is yes.

Can every man become a 10 on the attractive scale? Yes or no? Answer is an obvious no.

Therefore a guy who is a 10, has a higher chance of conversing with women who find him attractive.

It's the same question, are hot/warm leads easier to sell than cold leads. This is another dumbass question. Hot/warm leads are easier. If a girl catches eye contact with me and has a ear to ear smile = don't fuck it up game.

Also absolutely not on the blow out of attractive man is *just as fast* as an ugly man. You have more errors you are allowed to make. When a girl obviously checks me out, if I say hello she'll be a bit flattered/goofy so I don't have to be perfect. Again I still need "game" but it's easier if she already finds you attractive from hello.

Finally, an attractive man can still have strong game or weak game, I'm talking in generalities here, but if you see a below average man pulling a 10. That's much more likely a better person to listen to than a 10 pulling a 10. Same concept.

As an example: a virgin can learn from a guy who is a ten because a virgin has no game. Conversely, a 6 who is pulling 10's is going to have a hard time learning squat from a 10 who pulls 10's.

Is this a hot or cold lead? Which one is harder. Cold leads are much harder, it's not even worth discussing. Hell it even works for women, in sales who has an easier time selling a hot chick or an ugly one... All else equal the hot one, promotional models are not fat trolls for a reason. Go make a big commercial with nothing but fat fucks and ugly people. That shit will sell (give me a god damn break).

All of the examples in this thread are obvious proofs. If a guy can get a girl naked in his bed, all he has to learn is end-game. Versus a guy who has to sell through the entire process. Pretty simple.

[thegmanifesto]

(04-28-2013 11:53 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

People think I am getting upset when really I am just getting annoyed, wasted time is disgusting and that is exactly what this thread has now done. Wasted time.

If people are stupid enough to believe warm sales are harder, that's truly nonsensical.

You are getting all over the map as usual.

You said:

(04-28-2013 01:30 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

This is true.

I take no game advice from anyone who upon hello, has higher value than me. Doesn't work.

Was the guy poorer than you growing up? Is he rich now? You should listen to his money advice. If he was a yuppie his opinions are useless.

That is terrible advice.

You can learn from anyone who is successful regardless of how they got there.

----

Are you really 21 years old?

[WestCoast]

Go re-read the thread. I already explained you can learn from anyone.

I really don't have time for this nonsense, if people are going to ignore the incredibly obvious fact that being attractive makes sales easier (not just sex but products as well) that's straight up embarrassing.

Thank you for wasting my time and the career advice.

(04-29-2013 07:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 11:53 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

People think I am getting upset when really I am just getting annoyed, wasted time is disgusting and that is exactly what this thread has now done. Wasted time.

If people are stupid enough to believe warm sales are harder, that's truly nonsensical.

You are getting all over the map as usual.

You said:

(04-28-2013 01:30 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

This is true.

I take no game advice from anyone who upon hello, has higher value than me. Doesn't work.

Was the guy poorer than you growing up? Is he rich now? You should listen to his money advice. If he was a yuppie his opinions are useless.

That is terrible advice.

You can learn from anyone who is successful regardless of how they got there.

----

Are you really 21 years old?

[soup]

(04-28-2013 09:18 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 09:05 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 08:50 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I don't think the boxer/player analogy works. Some guys may be naturally athletic and strong, but nobody is born knowing how to box. You still have to train hard in the gym, you still have to practice your bobs and weaves and learn combos and footwork. You have to learn that stuff. The pretty boy who just lays girls that throw the pussy at him doesn't have anything to teach me other than "don't say anything stupid and bounce her to your pad". Mick Jagger has fucked many women. What am I supposed to learn from him? To start a rock band?

Of course it does.

Who is born knowing how to pick up girls?

If the women are approaching you, then it's not picking up. They are picking YOU up. It's like the difference between a spider catching what lands in its web versus a lion that has to learn to chase down and tackle prey because no zebra is going to approach a lion and offer itself.

Yes, but turning the tables so that women are picking you up IS one of the main goals of game.

Guys, there's one thing that both good looking and ugly men can both have: Charisma/confidence

You can learn from a handsome man who has confidence by watching and internalizing the type of charismatic body language he has.

A man who is living a life of abundance is most likely to carry himself differently than a man who is thirsty.

You can look at any guy who has ease with women and set a goal to get to a place where you have the same fluidity.


Also, I think it is better to roll with those guys because it will force you to keep your game sharp. That's the only way you can compete.

[thegmanifesto]

(04-29-2013 07:19 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Go re-read the thread. I already explained you can learn from anyone.

I really don't have time for this nonsense, if people are going to ignore the incredibly obvious fact that being attractive makes sales easier (not just sex but products as well) that's straight up embarrassing.

Thank you for wasting my time and the career advice.

No need to get angry.

You really are high strung for a 21 year old.

Go have some fun. Smoke a joint or something. Lay off the spread sheets and stressing about saving money all the time.

Maybe go to the beach or something. Go pick up a girl (just don't under any circumstances use the Game you detailed on here).

If anything, we should all be pissed at you for writing this:

(04-28-2013 10:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Here's my Friday night:

MeOpen)
Her: what?
Me: repeat
Her: Oh yeah my dad is blank. (Head turn)
Me: ramble until contact is made where she will engage again
Her: cool.
Me: another diatribe.
Her "ohh really blah blah... Full sentence"
Me: short sentence
Her: long sentence followed by "I need to check my coat"
Me: (realize her friend thinks I'm not a "good catch")
Me: chat up friend till she likes me as a "possible friend" get her to laugh + joke.
Me: "gotta go grab a drink" (leave before friend comes back)
(Now have 5-10 minutes to open up a reasonably attractive girl + game + have both girls chit chat if I am "up to par")
Me and new set, set starts laughing. I'm in with group 1 for sure for at least the next 20.
Back and forth we go.
Me: return back to girl 1, now she gives me a smile instead of screening the crowd. Run game again... Move around club etc etc. start making out. "Oh my god you're totally not my type, I don't understand"... So forth.

That was the biggest bunch of drivel I have seen since the pen and paper were first invented.

But I am not mad at you.

I am cool like that.

And your welcome.

[sucio44]

(04-28-2013 10:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Nah Cali is awesome for pussy and there is no hate at all, most people are just too insecure and believe I'm typing "angrily" when i'm just stating facts. If you have good looks life is easier nothing new here, always max out looks it even helps in making money. I used to be very bad looking, now I'm average to above average, the change is quite obvious, I can fuck up a few times and it slides, the more attracted to you she is from hello the more mistakes you can make, this isn't rocket science.

I'm a masochist, so it's almost more fun dealing with an uphill battle. Hard work isn't hard if its fun.

West Coast, what did you do to improve your appearance? How long did it take?

[Screwston]

(04-28-2013 10:12 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

This thread should be called.. " Cali sucks for pussy and we're turning into haters"

Why can't I give you another rep point?

[el mechanico]

(04-29-2013 10:01 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 07:19 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Go re-read the thread. I already explained you can learn from anyone.

I really don't have time for this nonsense, if people are going to ignore the incredibly obvious fact that being attractive makes sales easier (not just sex but products as well) that's straight up embarrassing.

Thank you for wasting my time and the career advice.

No need to get angry.

You really are high strung for a 21 year old.

Go have some fun. Smoke a joint or something. Lay off the spread sheets and stressing about saving money all the time.

Maybe go to the beach or something. Go pick up a girl (just don't under any circumstances use the Game you detailed on here).

If anything, we should all be pissed at you for writing this:

(04-28-2013 10:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Here's my Friday night:

MeOpen)
Her: what?
Me: repeat
Her: Oh yeah my dad is blank. (Head turn)
Me: ramble until contact is made where she will engage again
Her: cool.
Me: another diatribe.
Her "ohh really blah blah... Full sentence"
Me: short sentence
Her: long sentence followed by "I need to check my coat"
Me: (realize her friend thinks I'm not a "good catch")
Me: chat up friend till she likes me as a "possible friend" get her to laugh + joke.
Me: "gotta go grab a drink" (leave before friend comes back)
(Now have 5-10 minutes to open up a reasonably attractive girl + game + have both girls chit chat if I am "up to par")
Me and new set, set starts laughing. I'm in with group 1 for sure for at least the next 20.
Back and forth we go.
Me: return back to girl 1, now she gives me a smile instead of screening the crowd. Run game again... Move around club etc etc. start making out. "Oh my god you're totally not my type, I don't understand"... So forth.

That was the biggest bunch of drivel I have seen since the pen and paper were first invented.

But I am not mad at you.

I am cool like that.

And your welcome.

Jeez WC what the hell is that crap? I'm starting to think you're an "over thinker" you need to relax maybe take a vacation to a poor place and live simple for a few weeks.