[Green-On-GO]

Jesus H Christ.Scottsdale it is fuken awesome.The girls ard beautiful.Just went to Dakota and The W...
It totally blew my fuses after 2 days in San Francisco.I was gob smacked at the beauty.I'm a bit jet lagged.
No game from me I just stood and watched.Totally uncalibrated.Holy fuck talk about American beauty.Black, white and asian.
I understand about the height thing now and no way does OZ have bigger dudes than the US.
Stunning girls man..some of the black chicks blew me away.Great place

[Darkwing Buck]

Hmm. Promising intel on Phoenix.

Gonna have to check the apartment and condo prices there. Phoenix should have cheap property. Could be a potential home base if it wasn't hotter than an oven 8 months out of 12

[Dodgy]

Bumping this thread, just returned from a trip to Scottsdale. Oldtown is great for day drinking, but it dies out around 10:30 or 11pm.

On the other hand, the Entertainment District is the place to go at night. Although it's still technically considered Oldtown, it's a bit North of the heart of Oldtown. The Entertainment District easily has 12 bars and clubs all within walking district, including the W, Maya and Whiskey Row.

If you want to stay around there, the W is the place to be. I stayed in Northern Scottsdale, and it was a 10 minute drive down Scottsdale Rd. to get there. You can google Entertainment District Scottsdale for the exact location of each bar, but for a quick reference the Entertainment district is a small pocket west of Scottsdale/Drinkwater, and in between Camelback Rd. and Indian School.

Also, for those of you planning a trip you want to understand the different areas of Scottsdale. There's Scottsdale, Old town Scottsdale, South Scottsdale and Northern Scottsdale. And then there's Arcadia and Paradise Valley, which are technically different areas but encompass the area everyone considers Scottsdale.
The poorer area of Scottsdale is South Scottsdale and I would not recommend staying there. Old town, which includes downtown and the Entertainment District, is central with bars, restaurants all within walking district.

Northern Scottsdale is where all the money is. It's also where all the cougars and hot girls live. I personally enjoy staying in Northern Scottsdale because it reminds me of where I'm from in Southern California. The problem with North Scottsdale is that the nightlife consists of restaurants/lounges like Sumomaya and Ra, both on Scottsdale Rd. I'm used to hitting up girls at these kinds of places, but I imagine many guys would be uncomfortable in these situations. Many girls are seated eating dinner and you have to work the whole table.

For day game I would hit the Kieran Commons and the Scottsdale Quarter. Of course, day game in the Summer would be miserable. One good spot is the Press coffee house at the Scottsdale Quarter. Go there for a cup of coffee at like 9 am on weekend and wait for the Cougars to come in.

Also here are some notes about Phoenix in general. Nightlife in Phoenix proper is spread out and you have to know where to go. I would not recommend hanging out n Phoneix unless you absolutely have to. Other than Scottsdale, you have Tempe (ASU) but as some have mentioned it's a young scene. Of course no man outgrows 21 year old girls. But it's safe to say that we all outgrow the 21 year old party scene. Beyond those two, hit the Westfield area of Glendale (great for Mexican girls) and then Chandler.

[TooFineAPoint]

Scotts at night, Scotts weekend brunch, and Tempe during uni.

Then enjoy the hikes, the trips to Sedona, and Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesin West.

Book a visit to Phoenix, fellas.

[Jetset]

(03-28-2018 03:49 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  

Scotts at night, Scotts weekend brunch, and Tempe during uni.

Then enjoy the hikes, the trips to Sedona, and Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesin West.

Book a visit to Phoenix, fellas.

(10-04-2015 05:20 AM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

Jesus H Christ.Scottsdale it is fuken awesome.The girls ard beautiful.Just went to Dakota and The W...
It totally blew my fuses after 2 days in San Francisco.I was gob smacked at the beauty.I'm a bit jet lagged.
No game from me I just stood and watched.Totally uncalibrated.Holy fuck talk about American beauty.Black, white and asian.
I understand about the height thing now and no way does OZ have bigger dudes than the US.
Stunning girls man..some of the black chicks blew me away.Great place

I've railed about this before, but dollars for donuts, if you like warm weather, girls with pleasant attitudes, outdoor life, and city amenities, there is no better deal running in the United States today than the East Valley. Vegas delivers the quantity, Scottsdale delivers the quality.

The social norms to act sweet and look feminine are very strong. I had a date cop an attitude once when we met for a drink at the Olive & Ivy, and the 20-year-old hostess actually stepped over to my side of the table and shot her a look, like she was ready to go off on her for talking back to a date. (Cut it off after one drink, wasn't smart enough to try to get a number out of the hostess.)

[BasketBounce]

Is it better to stay in Scottsdale or Phoenix? I’ll be there Saturday, Sunday, and Monday night in October.

I’m black, and I prefer night game. I can do daygame, but I find night game is more accessible to me because I have a regular 9-5.

What interests me about Arizona is the weather, landscape, and cultural history. I’d be interested in going to local museums to learn about history of the Wild West and Native Americans. I also speak Spanish, so I’d be fine going to ethnically Mexican spots, too.

I met a Mormon girl from Arizona in college. She triggered me!

[Dodgy]

(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)BasketBounce Wrote:  

I’m black, and I prefer night game. I can do daygame, but I find night game is more accessible to me because I have a regular 9-5.

Ha ha good luck with daygaming in Arizona. Remember that you're in the middle of the Sonoran desert.

But Scottsdale, Scottsdale, Scottsdale. Jetset is the authority on this area, but if you choose Phoenix you're wasting your time and money. All the mormon girls are in Mesa though.

[doc holliday]

The W hotel in Scottsdale for the win. That place is awesome, the women are ridiculous there.

[Jetset]

Scottsdale Quarter / Kierland Commons would be a good daygame spot. Good mix of MILF and money thrown in for variety. It's outdoors and meant to feel like city streets, with juice bars and coffee shops for the instadate strategy. Beyond that, Fashion Square is more of an old-school mall, but the Biltmore Fashion Park/Town and Country shopping centers are yuppie chick central.

Also check out the Greenbelt. It's covered with bicycle and jogging paths and is going to be a magnet for fitchicks unless temperatures are fatal. Any outdoor activity is good, I climbed Squaw Peak once on a Friday evening and it was infested with 20-somethings in athleisure, only getting busier as the sun went down.

As for nightgame... You've got Wasted Grain, Dakota, Bottled Blond, Cake, HiFi, Rogue, Mercbar, Rebel Lounge, Mint, Rockbar, Bitter and Twisted... There's rooftop lounges, cigar clubs, cougar bars...



Get somewhere to stay in South Scottsdale for convenience. You'll probably want to hit up Mill Ave at some point but that doesn't mean you need to stay in Tempe.

[Dodgy]

@Jetset Damn you got me wanting to go back, haven't been since March. I checked the temp and it's only 98 degree which is pretty cool. I was in PHX last summer and remember it being 118 degrees so I stayed away this year. Was planning on coming back for Labor Day weekend though.

Quick question have you checked out the W's pool party?

http://www.wscottsdalehotel.com/WET-Weekends

[a beer is enough]

Been wanting to visit some of the cities in the state of AZ, heard things are taking off there big time.

What kinds of guys do well in places like Scotsdale and Tempe though?

I hear they are really "bro-ish" type of cities so it really a scene for fratty looking white dudes and athletic black dudes? One of my friends is Latino and claims that it really hurt him but he was in Tempe, doing alright where we are at now though.

[BasketBounce]

Thanks for the suggestions you guys.

@Dodgy: I’m not specifically targetting Mormons. Meeting her just opened my mind up to visiting Arizona!

[Bluto]

(08-10-2018 11:21 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Been wanting to visit some of the cities in the state of AZ, heard things are taking off there big time.

What kinds of guys do well in places like Scotsdale and Tempe though?

I hear they are really "bro-ish" type of cities so it really a scene for fratty looking white dudes and athletic black dudes? One of my friends is Latino and claims that it really hurt him but he was in Tempe, doing alright where we are at now though.

It does not surprise me about your friend. Being Latino in Phoenix, is like being black in Detroit. His ethnicity does not help him at all. If he wants to be a novelty by virtue of being latino, go to a college town in the Pacific North West, or Mid West. Or he can stay in the valley and develop his game.

[BasketBounce]

So I see why staying at W is the move — access to the parties.

how about the surrounding hotels? They are way cheaper. Scottsdale Marriot, Hyatt Place/House or even Aloft House are $100/night cheaper. What am I missing out on besides free access to the W’s parties? The other hotels appear close enough to Scottsdale’s entertainment district.

I’m willing to drop the cash for the W...but I figure it’s fair to ask about the other spots!

[a beer is enough]

(08-13-2018 09:52 AM)Bluto Wrote:  

(08-10-2018 11:21 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Been wanting to visit some of the cities in the state of AZ, heard things are taking off there big time.

What kinds of guys do well in places like Scotsdale and Tempe though?

I hear they are really "bro-ish" type of cities so it really a scene for fratty looking white dudes and athletic black dudes? One of my friends is Latino and claims that it really hurt him but he was in Tempe, doing alright where we are at now though.

It does not surprise me about your friend. Being Latino in Phoenix, is like being black in Detroit. His ethnicity does not help him at all. If he wants to be a novelty by virtue of being latino, go to a college town in the Pacific North West, or Mid West. Or he can stay in the valley and develop his game.

Does this carry over on to other brown and more ethnic races too?

I would assume an East Asian guy could probably do well but how about an Arab or Indian looking dude, do we get thrown into the same box as Mexicans because people think all brown is the same?

I've had some curiosity about AZ since I hear so much hype about it.

[Bluto]

(08-14-2018 06:54 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

(08-13-2018 09:52 AM)Bluto Wrote:  

(08-10-2018 11:21 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Been wanting to visit some of the cities in the state of AZ, heard things are taking off there big time.

What kinds of guys do well in places like Scotsdale and Tempe though?

I hear they are really "bro-ish" type of cities so it really a scene for fratty looking white dudes and athletic black dudes? One of my friends is Latino and claims that it really hurt him but he was in Tempe, doing alright where we are at now though.

It does not surprise me about your friend. Being Latino in Phoenix, is like being black in Detroit. His ethnicity does not help him at all. If he wants to be a novelty by virtue of being latino, go to a college town in the Pacific North West, or Mid West. Or he can stay in the valley and develop his game.

Does this carry over on to other brown and more ethnic races too?

I would assume an East Asian guy could probably do well but how about an Arab or Indian looking dude, do we get thrown into the same box as Mexicans because people think all brown is the same?

I've had some curiosity about AZ since I hear so much hype about it.

Honestly, I don't know. My guess is that most people can tell the difference between an Indian or an Arab and a Mexican. I can usually tell a difference in facial features, and I can definitely tell between accents if there is one. I have no idea if there is a lot of that racial group in the area or not. What I do know is that Latinos have always been and are the larger minority in the state.

[Dodgy]

(08-14-2018 11:49 AM)BasketBounce Wrote:  

So I see why staying at W is the move — access to the parties.

how about the surrounding hotels? They are way cheaper. Scottsdale Marriot, Hyatt Place/House or even Aloft House are $100/night cheaper. What am I missing out on besides free access to the W’s parties? The other hotels appear close enough to Scottsdale’s entertainment district.

I’m willing to drop the cash for the W...but I figure it’s fair to ask about the other spots!

You basically hit the nail on the head. The W gives you the best logistics to the parties and the status of staying at the W. But of course you don't need to be a guest at the hotel to hang out at the bar. So it's up to you whether it's worth the extra hundred bucks.

I haven't stayed at the two other hotels you mentioned, but I've stayed at the Old Town Marriot before and it's a standard, but solid hotel. The room was big enough and I remember it being relatively quiet as well. It's also a five minute walk to the Entertainment District/W, so you're not missing anything.

[BasketBounce]

Thanks to everyone for answering my questions. I’ll report back on my experiences here. I’m pumped!

[Sdsven]

I live in old town for 6 years now. I Go to the W easily once a month.

Stay at the W.

If that's out of budget, there's a best western plus THATS SOLID directly across the street, 40 yards away. I know, sounds weird.
Aloft hotel is good too. And rebranded less than 2 years ago.
Skip the Marriott. The other 3 hotels are shorter walking distance from everything.
Valley ho hotel is great too. Locals will like that you're staying there, $5 cab from everything.

It's 2018 as I write this. For those of you reading this in 2019 or 2020. There are 5 new luxury hotels being built or in the planning stages Now for old town. So check back in later.

Pool parties are amazing in this city. W, valley ho, Sauargo and maya day club for pool parties.. all have a different scene. All are fun.

IF you're younger, some logic suggests try south scottsdale so you can get to both mill ave in Tempe (ASU bars) and old town. Unless you find something really cheap, just take an $11 uber and stay in old town.

What's your age? it will make me give you different suggestions on the bars. Also, scottsdale bar scene/crowds change every 6 to 12 months. Old advice is not good advice.

I've been lurking on this site for over 10 years, reading Roosh's first posts. Been to over 60 countries. I got a lil bit of expierence when it comes to this.

[BasketBounce]

Hey Sdsven, i sent you a PM.

[Sdsven]

Basket bounce. I would love to reply to your PM, got some solid advice for next weekend. But for some reason the site won’t let me reply?? Don’t know why ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[BasketBounce]

Could you post it here so others can benefit from your knowledge?

[20Nation]

Hey, i’m here for a couple months. If anybody is wanting to go out any of these weekends, send me a PM.

[BeardedMastodon]

Went there for a Bach,or party in 2013. Tons of fun! I am just south of there... would send you a PM but I am too new to.

[cap213]

Good old scottsdale. I am moving back to AZ and scottsdale this month from the east coast. I missed the people and believe it or not the weather. It is hot a balls but once you adjust it is the best. Super sunny blah blah blah. To the folk that still live out that way how much has the scene changed since 2016?
I used to live just off scottsdale road in north scottsdale. That is where I will probably move back to at the end of this month.