rooshvforum.network is a fully functional forum: you can search, register, post new threads etc...
Old accounts are inaccessible: register a new one, or recover it when possible. x


What a bitchy thing to do
#26

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 12:51 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

More interesting is the lesson in what not to do from the guy's side. His first two texts were a steaming heap. She wanted him to lead and he couldn't deliver.

El Tigre get's it.

Bring some balls to the party and you don't get called buddy by bimbos.
Reply
#27

What a bitchy thing to do

Wow...
As if this bitch's time is too important for her to be bothered to fucking have coffee with somebody, get over yourself.
And where the fuck were all her innovative suggestions for "etc" things to do, what does she think she's bringing to the table?

The whole "Please delete my number/Do not contact me again" act just screams out "I'm a 5-6 with deflated self-esteem who seeks to put down guys who are doing nothing but being nice to me to bolster my own fizzling ego."

Superiority complexes have to be one of the all time most annoying neurosis to witness.
Reply
#28

What a bitchy thing to do

No one's going to deny this was a supremely cunty way to reject the guy, but this beta went to the hoop with a weak layup and got his shit thrown. I was actually going to ask, "Roosh, did this happen to you?" until I read the texts. No way on Earth any of us would make this many mistakes over the course of a whole relationship, never mind a single screenshot.

1. Asking, not telling where they're going.
2. Doing so in a nauseatingly corny, goofy way ("everyone's favorite game").
3. Being weak and indecisive with his "how about" construction.
4. Negotiating a place that's convenient for the both of them rather than what works for him.
5. Going with the most inoffensive, boring coffee option (one of the choices given to him).

Chick tested his credentials and they didn't pass muster. She was probably already on the verge of flaking or regretting handing over the digits. She was an indelicate, untactful cunt--because she's American--but he would have been eliminated at some stage during the night by a huge percentage of the world's (attractive) females. Too weak.

Tuthmosis Twitter | IRT Twitter
Reply
#29

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 10:44 AM)polymath Wrote:  

No no no no no.

He was entirely boring. It's like he read her message and was like, "uhhh.....fuck.....I, uh.....coffee sounds good?" and had no idea what the fuck was going on.

We should all show up to a first date with a woman we don't even know well prepared to take her on a motorcycle ride to the Bank of America Building. After riding a private elevator, we'll arrive on the roof where we'll begin our helicopter tour of the city. After marveling at the landscape, she'll be taken to the countryside for a pic nic.
Reply
#30

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:14 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

No one's going to deny this was a supremely cunty way to reject the guy, but this beta went to the hoop with a weak layup and got his shit thrown. I was actually going to ask, "Roosh, did this happen to you?" until I read the texts. No way on Earth any of us would make this many mistakes over the course of a whole relationship, never mind a single screenshot.

1. Asking, not telling where they're going.
2. Doing so in a nauseatingly corny, goofy way ("everyone's favorite game").
3. Being weak and indecisive with his "how about" construction.
4. Negotiating a place that's convenient for the both of them rather than what works for him.
5. Going with the most inoffensive, boring coffee option (one of the choices given to him).

Chick tested his credentials and they didn't pass muster. She was a cunt, because she's American, but he would have been eliminated at some stage during the night by a huge percentage of the world's (attractive) females.

Yeah, he's a nice guy and we all know by now not to be nice.

But why be a fucking cunt to a nice guy?

Do you treat nice guys or girls like that?

I'd never met up with a guy who wanted to become friends or whatever, and then later sent him a nasty text. "You're not cool enough, bro!" Never said anything like that to a nice girl.

The chick is a fucking cunt and is a symptom of a larger problem.

There is game and then there is human decency. The guy make lack the former but there is no excuse for the latter.
Reply
#31

What a bitchy thing to do

He sounds like he was just being a nice guy which unfortunately, doesn't work anymore. We all know that. There's no reason for her to act like an entitled bitch and I hope she ends up with gonorrhea of the mouth for this. I'm tired of girls having these stupid little attitudes for no reason what so ever. I bet anything that she's a 5 or maybe 6 and in her late 20's or older.
Reply
#32

What a bitchy thing to do

Girls are getting out of control with this shit.

Just last night I was at the bar, not moving at all. This girl orders shots, and spills little on my jacket while she passes one to her friend.

I gave her "wtf" look.

She was like "sorry" pause and then said "but you were in my way"

Unbelievable. This chick was blaming me because she spilled booze on me.
Reply
#33

What a bitchy thing to do

So, let this be a lesson that when presented with an "etc." option, always respond with "fuck you raw (not pulling out, of course)" if you want a positive response. Don't even put a question mark and make sure at least one of the words is spelled incorrectly.

"In America we don't worship government, we worship God." - President Donald J. Trump
Reply
#34

What a bitchy thing to do

This is not the best game, but it's far from the worst. This is how men and women got together for years, but all of a sudden it's not enough.

This is also the worst possible way to let someone down: try to make him think that things would have worked out if only he had done one thing differently. It's really cruel.
Reply
#35

What a bitchy thing to do

Everyone is in 300% agreement that this is a filthy cunt. But, the guy isn't totally excusable here. As men, we have to adapt to current realities on the ground. Bitches have been testing men for 1,000s of years. In the old days, it was by pretending not to hear you, hugging their notebook tight against their school uniform, and walking straight to their all-girls' school. Now, it's playing idiotic texting games. Women have gotten worse, yes, but this guy failed to pass a simple test he should have understood.

[Image: attachment.jpg11277]   

Tuthmosis Twitter | IRT Twitter
Reply
#36

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 10:44 AM)polymath Wrote:  

No no no no no.

He was entirely boring. It's like he read her message and was like, "uhhh.....fuck.....I, uh.....coffee sounds good?" and had no idea what the fuck was going on.

He asked the girl where to meet without suggesting a place, answered her question entirely in her frame, and just generally seemed bland as fuck.

A better response would have been basically ANYTHING but coffee or dinner.

"Sex."

"Conversation."

"Have you ever been to a [insert local team] game?"

"Meet me at [subway station]. Let's look at the subway map and decide what we think would be fun from there."

"Are you offering to take me to dinner?"

"I know a really good coffee shop off [street]. Friendliest vibe you've ever seen. Let's meet at [nearby place] at [time] and I'll show you."

Being hateful isn't going to improve your game any. Learn where he went wrong so you can circumvent the same issue in your own dating life.

Quote: (04-20-2013 10:34 AM)Emmanuel Goldstein Wrote:  

But she's a real cunt because she presented an option as acceptable, then proceeded to shaft him for choosing it.


Valid point, but what do you expect? Even many of the guys on this forum admit that coffee dates are boring. (Unless, that is, you're witty and funny.)

We can always pick his texts apart and always find something better he could've said, but come on it's just a damn text. It's really not that significant. It doesn't say a whole lot about who you are. It's absolutely nuts to me to think that some girl thinks two lines of text are all that's needed to judge someone. Nobody should have to be THAT worried about crafting the perfect text that's saturated with wit, creativity and suave in every damn word. Text messaging was never intended to be a display of personality. It's just to send quick bursts of information that don't require a phone call. Anyone trying to play Romeo and Juliet over an iPhone is a tool.

BTW, David DeAngelo used to suggest coffee dates just to keep costs down. If the chic is wack, all you wasted on her was a couple bucks. I don't drink coffee so not an option for me, but I don't think it's a horrible idea either.
Reply
#37

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:30 PM)soup Wrote:  

Girls are getting out of control with this shit.

Just last night I was at the bar, not moving at all. This girl orders shots, and spills little on my jacket while she passes one to her friend.

I gave her "wtf" look.

She was like "sorry" pause and then said "but you were in my way"

Unbelievable. This chick was blaming me because she spilled booze on me.

Saw two girls wildly dancing. One uncoordinated girl flailed her arms around and knocked the drink out of the guy's hand.

He politely stepped over to says something. He thought he was dealing with a decent group of humans. He expected an apology and maybe the girl would buy him a replacement drink.

Is that what 99% of us would do?

He thought that because decent people who knock a drink out of your hand at the very least apologize.

You can imagine what happened, "Oh, it's a club. Things happen!" The girls laughed and were totally unapologetic. Then they started ignoring the guy.

I don't think any man has a right to have sex and I am far less, "Men are great but American women suck," than some.

But that bitch's text wasn't about good game or bad game. It was about affirmatively going out of one's way to be uncivil and unpleasant.
Reply
#38

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:37 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Everyone is in 300% agreement that this is a filthy cunt. But, the guy isn't totally excusable here. As men, we have to adapt to current realities on the ground. Bitches have been testing men for 1,000s of years. In the old days, it was by pretending not to hear you, hugging their notebook tight against their school uniform, and walking straight to their all-girls' school. Now, it's playing idiotic texting games. Women have gotten worse, yes, but this guy failed to pass a simple test he should have understood.

Yeah, but if you never hold women accountable for this sort of behavior, it just gets worse and worse. You'd have a never ending spiral of cuntishness. Any time a chick does something shitty, you're right there to say, "Hey bro, you said 'hello' to her? What kind of fucking weak ass shit is that?! You didn't run Asshole Caveman Scopolamine Sleazy Rape Game, what the fuck did you expect?"

This is like how women always blame their infidelity on something her man is supposedly doing wrong. Sure, maybe he really is not having six hour tantric sex bouts every night, but buying her brand of bullshit just paves the way for more of it. Usually, in any relationship conflict, both parties are contributing in some way. But that doesn't mean that you hold them both morally culpable to the same extent.

Everyone agrees, the guy could have spit better game (I missed that first text of his, which was super lame).
Reply
#39

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:32 PM)j r Wrote:  

This is not the best game, but it's far from the worst. This is how men and women got together for years, but all of a sudden it's not enough.

This is also the worst possible way to let someone down: try to make him think that things would have worked out if only he had done one thing differently. It's really cruel.

I'm not that old but still old enough to remember a time when you actually met someone in a casual environment. They called this "getting to know someone."

You used to actually "get to know someone" before you had sex with them.

Does anyone here even get to know a girl before fucking her?

I try to say nothing about myself and learn nothing about her. It's all nonsense and banter and directing the conversation towards sex as quickly as possible to see if she's a prude or if she's down.

Actually sitting down with a woman for coffee, asking about her life, her interests, her upbringing... treating her like a human being worthy of getting to know...That seems fucking quaint, doesn't it?
Reply
#40

What a bitchy thing to do

The texts indicate that they just met each other. He is not supposed to try to be "Don Suave...I am the most creative guy in the world" at this point. The only exception is if the chick is super fine or something.
Reply
#41

What a bitchy thing to do

She's just making things worse for her entire gender. If anything, there should be a central database of texts and documented cases like these, so that in the year 2028 when the patriarchy reaffirms itself and all women are forced to wear muzzles and leashes, at least they'll have no mystery as to why.

This text reminds me of an exchange I had with a girl a few months back. I was running smooth game on her, makeout session, phone number etc, she wanted to get food and hang out after but I had work the next morning. Got her number. This was our text exchange as best as I can remember:

Me: "Hey good meeting you. When you coming back to la"
Her: "No, it doesn't work like that. If you want to see me again you can take me out on a proper date and be a gentleman"
Me: "Sounds complicated"
Her: "How utterly predictable. Sigh."

I don't remember what I said after that but I made a recovery and got her to make plans. The day she was going to come up I flaked on her. She was a 6.5 at best and I just couldn't stomach flattering her ego anymore.

"...so I gave her an STD, and she STILL wanted to bang me."

TEAM NO APPS

TEAM PINK
Reply
#42

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 10:38 AM)houston Wrote:  

His only option is to send a Dick Pic at this point.

It's true. A dick might actually have turned this situation around.
Reply
#43

What a bitchy thing to do

well she was already bitchy when she texted: It's time to play everyone favorite game... First either conversation was going to the point where they should have met and guy failed to be straight forward and precede her text or in second instance girl txt him first. I think that this guy was failing from the very start of texting and give beta vibe that lead to text like that.

Everyone knows that beta guys are easy to read through, you would be surprised how many guys do the same thing over and over again.

Yeah for your information I'm very beta and my analysis might be wrong.
Reply
#44

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-20-2013 10:44 AM)polymath Wrote:  

No no no no no.

He was entirely boring. It's like he read her message and was like, "uhhh.....fuck.....I, uh.....coffee sounds good?" and had no idea what the fuck was going on.

We should all show up to a first date with a woman we don't even know well prepared to take her on a motorcycle ride to the Bank of America Building. After riding a private elevator, we'll arrive on the roof where we'll begin our helicopter tour of the city. After marveling at the landscape, she'll be taken to the countryside for a pic nic.

Ah, went with the unexciting option...i was hoping for Goldman Sachs, or at least Morgan Stanley. wanted to test out your high finance network. And that's where we end... Sorry buddy. Please delete my number.

#NoSingleMoms
#NoHymenNoDiamond
#DontWantDaughters
Reply
#45

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-20-2013 01:32 PM)j r Wrote:  

This is not the best game, but it's far from the worst. This is how men and women got together for years, but all of a sudden it's not enough.

This is also the worst possible way to let someone down: try to make him think that things would have worked out if only he had done one thing differently. It's really cruel.

I'm not that old but still old enough to remember a time when you actually met someone in a casual environment. They called this "getting to know someone."

You used to actually "get to know someone" before you had sex with them.

Does anyone here even get to know a girl before fucking her?

I try to say nothing about myself and learn nothing about her. It's all nonsense and banter and directing the conversation towards sex as quickly as possible to see if she's a prude or if she's down.

Actually sitting down with a woman for coffee, asking about her life, her interests, her upbringing... treating her like a human being worthy of getting to know...That seems fucking quaint, doesn't it?

Hell, the first time, girls aren't fucking the real you, they're fucking some mystery man. You ran good game, so she's filled in all the gaps with her fantasies. You seem cool and well-off, yet vague about your job - she wildly inflates that in her head. If she knew the real you, she might realize you're not so different from all the other men hitting on her. That's why you have to fuck her quickly, before the whole illusion fades.

This is why I like activity dates for the second date, if we didn't fuck on the first one. You lose that first date energy, and your shiny front starts to lose its luster.
Reply
#46

What a bitchy thing to do

That's why whenever a woman asks me "what are we going to do?" I respond with "Top Secret."

Always yields results.

A humble gentleman's blog about pussy, cigars, and game.

LATEST POST:
The Problem With Nightclubs

Also check out my blog for cigar discussion and reviews.
Reply
#47

What a bitchy thing to do

The bottom line is that this girl was fishing around for an excuse to cancel on this guy. She did it in the most cunt-like way possible. None of us are excusing this bitch's behavior. But, part of what's allowed this kind of shitty behavior from women to proliferate is precisely the kind of weakness exhibited in this guy's tentative texting. Dudes are simply not managing chicks anymore. Keep in mind that texting--for better or worse--has now become a substitute for social interaction that, for most of human history, was done face-to-face or over the phone.

I'm sure this isn't the kind of guy to call a bitch out, by text or in-person. If he were a different kind of guy, after she rejected him in that unacceptable way (in person or by text), he would have come back with at least something like Parlay said, making her think twice about pulling this kind of stunt the next time.

Quote:Quote:

"I see many cats in your future."

Instead he folded and went silent--just like he would have in person. This isn't "game," this is just being a man--not letting people (women or men) disrespect you or your time like this. The last several guys let is slide (over text or in person or whatever) and this new guy suffered the consequences.

Weakness--the lack of leadership and smackdown from men--is what's allowed, and is worsening, this problem.

Tuthmosis Twitter | IRT Twitter
Reply
#48

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote: (04-20-2013 02:08 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

"I see many cats in your future."

Yep. I told a girl who was being rude (I wasn't running game, she just started in on me), "At best you will be some guy's last call slump buster."

I saw some chubby girls blocking the sidewalk on Main Street to take pictures.

I said, "Nice pregnancy photos!"

I used to only insult women who insulted me but now affirmatively insult women who are acting out of line.
Reply
#49

What a bitchy thing to do

Quote:Kabal Wrote:

Ah, went with the unexciting option...i was hoping for Goldman Sachs, or at least Morgan Stanley. wanted to test out your high finance network. And that's where we end... Sorry buddy. Please delete my number.

[Image: lol.gif] [Image: lol.gif] [Image: lol.gif]

"Imagine" by HCE | Hitler reacts to Battle of Montreal | An alternative use for squid that has never crossed your mind before
Reply
#50

What a bitchy thing to do

You gotta keep your ho's in check [Image: wink.gif]

My reply may appear light and playful on the surface but it's the kind of thing that resonates in your mind for years to come. It's especially effective if you do it in front of all her friends.

Team Nachos
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)