[uni]

Study case:

KILL BILL VOL.1
KILL BILL VOL.2
DJANGO UNCHAINED

all are bestselling movies of the "famous" Tarantino, that everyone unfortunately seem to praise a lot.

Count in these movies how many men are mutilated, killed, tortured, hands and legs and heads cut off, etc

And how many women...

The ratio of men killed : women killed is about 30 : 1

It is unfortunately very largely socially accepted for men to be killed, humiliated, tortured, mutilated, and so on.

However if a woman is even touched in a way that makes her feel "uncomfortable", that is a huge crime that all the white knights, beta men and all women start screaming about it.

How that we came that low as a human race,
that killing human beings who are males is totally accepted and even funny.

Extreme violence and mass murder is OK, as long as it is against us, men..

What are your thoughts on this subject, and what we can do to make a change?

Thank you

[Hannibal]

Men are expendable. It's not a huge conspiracy or anything. It wouldn't make sense to protect men as much as women, nor to feel as much for them because they were the ones who had to take a hit for the team (and in many cases, die).

5 (very happy) men and 100 women can repopulate an area much easier than 5 women and 100 men.

What you're mad about is that no one gives a shit about these men if they die. This idea of manhood is not celebrated anymore. In the past it was much more necessary, but now we have more people than we can deal with and no one cares if the men die. There's a legion of dick waiting to take his place. It's no big secret that men are much more valuable in societies where men are more scarce.

[uni]

Hannibal you are a man.

It is a problem if everywhere we hear about "Equality" however we let true inequality exist and we accept it like slaves...

[uni]

By this kind of discriminative thinking against men, if we apply it to fat women, also nobody wants to have sex with them, so therefore they can be easily be victims of extreme violence like men are in so many movies...

But no, they are not. Very fat and ugly women are also protected...

[Grit]

This kind of logical equality makes sense to a roomful of men.

But unfortunately today, half the men can't wait to run to their female 'best friend' to tattle on how evil masculinity is.

In other words, if a woman believes she is in an equal society, than the betas that tag along will believe that too.

The solution was easily apparent in older society: women could not enter the public realm alone, nor could they enter male space.

[vinman]

We're men. We don't bitch and moan. We shrug, say "fuck it", and press on.

[uni]

I think we should go full way for this:

Either everything stays TRADITIONAL way, or we play the "feminist" poisoned game ALL THE WAY: FULL EQUALITY: women will go to war and die for their countries, women will work in construction yards, women will all go and fight in Afghanistan, and they will be treated as men, total equality...

[Hannibal]

Most people ignore the idea of fat women completely. Men don't want to fuck them and the other women don't see them as competition, so the only people who really care are their every growing numbers.

Films nowadays usually don't risk having too many fatties (especially fatties who get the axe). Films, sitcoms, all that shit, they like to have beautiful people of both genders. The biggest exception to this is comedy. Fat women are typecasted into the Chris Farley type persona where they spew random stupid shit, make fun of themselves, and get into funny situations like trying to outrun someone.

If you're talking about horror films, sometimes fatties will get the axe. If they're fat and they get killed off, 9/10 times they're men. If they're really hot and they're women, they have a good chance of getting murdered. That's a real common trope because filmmakers know that the audience gets emotional when the hot chicks die.

It's not that fat chicks are more important than most men, it's that no one wants to see them in film. When the protagonist kills a shitload of people, the majority of them are men. Men and women alike don't have that same protective instinct of other men because it's easy to rationalize that they're bad men and that's why they're dead. It's not feminism, it's just filmmaking.

Now, when journalism gets involved in shit like this, where they say that so and such many firefighters died putting out the world trade center, it's mostly because men are invisible in the media. If you look up the numbers, you'll find that every firefighter that died in the world trade center was, actually, a fireman.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt

[j r]

I get that you think that you are really sticking to the feminists by taking theor logic and turning it back on them with the sexes reversed, but you're not. You're actually furthering their cause by buying into this bullsht.

What do I think about violence against men in movies? Nothing. I'm a fucking grown ass man. I don't waste time worrying about what movies and TV shows say.

[uni]

exactly because we ignore it, it is a problem.

it is a problem because everyone actually protects females: both women and men are protecting women.

And brainwashed men compete against each other, and nobody protects men.

This is one more reason why the life expectancy gap is so big between women and men.

There are many countries in which women live ON AVERAGE 15 years longer than men...

:/

Because of this type of attitude:

Men should resist everything by themselves, because they are supposed to be "tough" no matter what.

Women should alsways be helped and protected by everyone.

This is the biggest problem

[uni]

What is more, because everybody protects women, and nobody protects men,

98% of men are losing divorces suits, and women are taking everything that was never theirs in the first place, and they never worked for.

The man works hard, while the women only enjoy the benefits of the actual situation in our society, in which women are protected while men are brainwashed and pushed to constantly compete against each other and accept that it is somehow ok
for them to be mass murdered...

[Hades]

Eh Uni, I'd chill on the manosphere stuff. The best way to salt your game is to read anything written by Paul Elam for more than half an hour. Feminists get away with this shit because a bad personality doesn't mean "unable to have sex with".

[Hannibal]

In all seriousness, the very best thing you can do is to check out of the society that you think isn't supporting or doesn't give a shit about you.

So basically
make money and do your very best to work for yourself
chase skirts, but do not get married
avoid things like a 401k and plan your own retirement
avoid being too far in debt or living in a country where the government can screw with your personal wealth for no reason
don't join the military, or if you do, don't expect the military to take good care of you after you quit
don't do the defacto required things of you like whiteknighting, chivalry, whatever
edit: Almost forgot to add. Under no circumstances should you ever have kids. If you want to have kids, well, then know this. Get it in writing, because your darling little child will be used as a hostage against your bank account in a court of law, regardless of whether or not the female ever spends it on the child. If you want to have a child, do your own research on that. I'm not concerned about it now so I don't know much about it.

That's pretty much it. Live for yourself and don't get screwed by the rules you don't play.

If you live in a country where men aren't expected to marry, raise a family, and get all their shit together before they're 30, then you sir, are a free man who can do as he wishes. So no one gives a shit about you? So what? You have the agency to do whatever the fuck you like. Anyone who wishes for anything less is better off being a woman. Yeah, it's real bad now if you wanted to be a family man, but times have changed and so must you. Take lemons and make whiskey sours, my man.

[kosko]

Protect yourself as a Man.

Whom are you looking for protection from?

Quit bitching about the system and start fighting it.

[uni]

I'm just thinking that we can make a good change,...

to change this horrible double standard : it's ok to kill a lot of men, and it's even funny (see "Kill Bill" movies)
but it's a terrible tragedy if a woman is even slapped...

I am chilled... english is not my native language, so maybe I appear to be more hypey, but actually these are just facts, and I am calm.

I simply think that something can be done about it

We together united, we are a force

[Firestorm]

(04-04-2013 06:23 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

In all seriousness, the very best thing you can do is to check out of the society that you think isn't supporting or doesn't give a shit about you.

So basically
make money and do your very best to work for yourself
chase skirts, but do not get married
avoid things like a 401k and plan your own retirement
avoid being too far in debt or living in a country where the government can screw with your personal wealth for no reason
don't join the military, or if you do, don't expect the military to take good care of you after you quit
don't do the defacto required things of you like whiteknighting, chivalry, whatever

That's pretty much it. Live for yourself and don't get screwed by the rules you don't play.

If you live in a country where men aren't expected to marry, raise a family, and get all their shit together before they're 30, then you sir, are a free man who can do as he wishes. So no one gives a shit about you? So what? You have the agency to do whatever the fuck you like. Anyone who wishes for anything less is better off being a woman. Yeah, it's real bad now if you wanted to be a family man, but times have changed and so must you. Take lemons and make whiskey sours, my man.

Sounds like a monologue from fight club..... good shit.

[guerrilla]

In horror movies it's always the topless hotties who are killed

But IRL what are the stats in male vs female homicides?

[DLZ]

Roissy has been race-baiting hardcore lately, but you can't argue with this gem:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/2...l-premise/

[le prince perdu]

Well it's true, but let's not forget that most movies are made by men
And as a man I'd rather make a movie with men dying/ losing a limb than a mass of hot chicks.

It's more pleasing to my eyes, I am a man and I watch movies to be entertained. I want to see beautiful women not men, and I am perfectly fine with guys dying in movies

[uni]

(04-04-2013 07:02 PM)le prince perdu Wrote:  

as a man I'd rather make a movie with men dying/ losing a limb than a mass of hot chicks.

It's more pleasing to my eyes, I am a man and I watch movies to be entertained.

I am perfectly fine with guys dying in movies

Well this kind of thinking seems to me ill, and it is part of this problem explained above:

Women are PROTECTED by almost all men and women.

While men are protected by anybody, and other men say it is "entertaining" to see their own gender getting killed / murdered,
and it is pleasing to their eyes.

It makes me sick actually... but maybe I am just sensitive...

[Ryre]

(04-04-2013 06:39 PM)guerrilla Wrote:  

In horror movies it's always the topless hotties who are killed

But IRL what are the stats in male vs female homicides?

Right.

What do you call a movie in which men die? An action movie.

What do you call a movie in which women die? A horror movie.

[Samseau]

It is a double standard, but why care?

Would you rather live in a world where men are always being nice and polite, never engaging in any sort of rough and tumble fun?

Fuck THAT, I'll take some fun and blood sports any day of the week.

[teh_skeeze]

I like the way you think Uni. We should abolish all violence in movies. While we are at it, why don't we stop keeping score in sports? I don't like it when my Mets lose. If we stop keeping score, everyone wins!

Taken would have been a much better movie if Liam Neeson just shook the Albanian's hands until they gave his daughter back.

[Kish]

(04-04-2013 06:47 PM)DLZ Wrote:  

Roissy has been race-baiting hardcore lately, but you can't argue with this gem:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/2...l-premise/

Every man should read that post.

[Atlantic]

REAL PROBLEM: pointless threads.

Work out, eat well, read, make money and game. Don't worry about what hollywood is doing.