[Sebastian]

I guess I can't complain about this......
(it will be worse if you were in an opposite situation)

Even at bars, most of the time, I always end up getting connected with good girls.
(Definition for good girls: I don't know their behind curtain sexual history. I just mean, they don't have those trashy look on their face at all. I can proudly take them to the dinner with my friends and won't worry about her handling the conversation)

I don't limit myself though. I still hit on slutty hot girl, party girl types.
The conversation usually goes nowhere.

I had good interaction with this nurse lady last week. we talked about travelling, other cultures, foods, careers etc. I can't talk about those with those slutty hot girls.
I don't want to say 'they are just dumb and I am better than them intellectually'
Maybe, I am not just their type and they are not interested in going into deep conversation?

Obviously, I don't want to settle down with those kind of women.
But like any other men, I have a desire to interact with them just sexually.

I guess I have this nice/good guy look on my face.
But I have no intention to force myself to act like one of those douche bag club monkeys just hoping to attract hot club girls.

Do you guys see the pattern for type of girls you attract?

[tiggaling]

uh, they just might appear as "good girls", just as you might appear as a "good guy".

I don't use those terms myself, "good girl"/"bad girl" as they are kind of loaded with Christian theology!

(04-02-2013 08:57 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I just mean, they don't have those trashy look on their face at all.

[tiggaling]

I do get what you are saying that you want to sleep with trashy club girls.

Just tell her stuff like "Mama, I wanna put a baby in your belly!" or " I am ze locksmith of love, no?" or "Have you ever done anal? Cause I’m like Captain Kirk, I go where no man has gone before." etc

Sebastian Wrote:

I don't want to say 'they are just dumb and I am better than them intellectually'

Just say it, FFS!

intellect will not help you with women as they primarily respond to emotionese.

[bojangles]

(04-02-2013 08:57 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I guess I can't complain about this......
(it will be worse if you were in an opposite situation)

Even at bars, most of the time, I always end up getting connected with good girls.
(Definition for good girls: I don't know their behind curtain sexual history. I just mean, they don't have those trashy look on their face at all. I can proudly take them to the dinner with my friends and won't worry about her handling the conversation)

I don't limit myself though. I still hit on slutty hot girl, party girl types.
The conversation usually goes nowhere.

I had good interaction with this nurse lady last week. we talked about travelling, other cultures, foods, careers etc. I can't talk about those with those slutty hot girls.
I don't want to say 'they are just dumb and I am better than them intellectually'
Maybe, I am not just their type and they are not interested in going into deep conversation?

Obviously, I don't want to settle down with those kind of women.
But like any other men, I have a desire to interact with them just sexually.

I guess I have this nice/good guy look on my face.
But I have no intention to force myself to act like one of those douche bag club monkeys just hoping to attract hot club girls.

Do you guys see the pattern for type of girls you attract?

Your last question, no I set the pattern for the type of girls I'm attracted to. Don't project the good girl/bad girl onto these women, just think of them as women, they all react to the same biological urges and to the same cues and cards. Play them right, play them congruently and you'll get laid regardless of the good/bad.

[Mon]

The girls that are "good girls" with you will be eating swapping cum from mouth-to-mouth with another chick...after eating her pussy while simultaneously being fucked from the back by some guy who will accept nothing less than a "bad girl."

You're supposed to train chicks to be what/who you want them to be.
Become a slut-engineer.

I've had 3somes with "good girl" married chicks who've told me they'd NEVER do that with their husbands.

You should give a woman her reality. They are more than willing to accept that from an authoritative lead.

[Sebastian]

NO. I am allergic to trashy people whether it's a woman or some guy at a club. I don't want to do anything with them.

(04-02-2013 10:21 AM)tiggaling Wrote:  

I do get what you are saying that you want to sleep with trashy club girls.
[quote='Sebastian']

I knew I would see this kind of comment. I am not trying to define what a good girl is.
I am just saying at least from public eyes, they will appear as a good girl.
A girl might have trashy face and slutty look. But she is actually a good girl. Do I care? No. I rather go for the one with innocent face but slutty behavior.


[quote='Mon' pid='409641' dateline='1364917349']
The girls that are "good girls" with you will be eating swapping cum from mouth-to-mouth with another chick...after eating her pussy while simultaneously being fucked from the back by some guy who will accept nothing less than a "bad girl."

[MrXY]

(04-02-2013 12:40 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  

NO. I am allergic to trashy people whether it's a woman or some guy at a club. I don't want to do anything with them.

But you said in your original post that you do:

Quote:

Posted by Sebastian - Today 10:57 AM
I guess I can't complain about this......
(it will be worse if you were in an opposite situation)

Even at bars, most of the time, I always end up getting connected with good girls.
(Definition for good girls: I don't know their behind curtain sexual history. I just mean, they don't have those trashy look on their face at all. I can proudly take them to the dinner with my friends and won't worry about her handling the conversation)

I don't limit myself though. I still hit on slutty hot girl, party girl types.
The conversation usually goes nowhere.

I had good interaction with this nurse lady last week. we talked about travelling, other cultures, foods, careers etc. I can't talk about those with those slutty hot girls.
I don't want to say 'they are just dumb and I am better than them intellectually'
Maybe, I am not just their type and they are not interested in going into deep conversation?

Obviously, I don't want to settle down with those kind of women.
But like any other men, I have a desire to interact with them just sexually.

I guess I have this nice/good guy look on my face.
But I have no intention to force myself to act like one of those douche bag club monkeys just hoping to attract hot club girls.

Do you guys see the pattern for type of girls you attract?

[Sebastian]

No there is a fine line between white trash girls (just ghetto) and slutty hot girls. (high maintenance, sorority type)

[/quote]

But you said in your original post that you do:

[quote]

[MrXY]

Everyone who responded on this thread has tried to make the same point to you- that you are creating false categories and making assumptions that don't exist in reality.

Just because a girl dresses sexy and goes to clubs doesn't mean that she is slutty-often these girls are just attention whores

Just because a girl is intelligent and looks nice and sweet doesn't mean she isn't slutty

[Ensam]

My anecdotal tale from a few weeks ago:
Girl A: Met at a bar in the afternoon. Already a little drunk. Dressed slutty. Makes out with me at the bar, I take her home, we bang.

Girl B: Grad student. Total good girl. Responsible, doesn't drink, takes care of herself, etc.

Which one do you think was a dead fish in bed and which one was begging me to come in her ass? I'm sure you can figure it out.

[teh_skeeze]

I was going to make a thread about the disturbing trend I've been noticing in my approaches, but never got around to it. It seems that the only girls that I can make a connection with are damaged. It's probably because I have a lot of damage myself, and I've been through some shit. The so called good girls can't relate to a lot of my stories because they just see it as weird.

Bad girls can be just as difficult to get into bed as good girls. They just require a different type of game. It appears that you exude good guy personality. So it makes sense that you would attract those types of girls.

[IpsaScientiaPotestasEst]

(04-02-2013 05:19 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

My anecdotal tale from a few weeks ago:
Girl A: Met at a bar in the afternoon. Already a little drunk. Dressed slutty. Makes out with me at the bar, I take her home, we bang.

Girl B: Grad student. Total good girl. Responsible, doesn't drink, takes care of herself, etc.

Which one do you think was a dead fish in bed and which one was begging me to come in her ass? I'm sure you can figure it out.

Ummm??......I'm confused, cause I could see it being either.

Again though, as stated ad nauseum-you are making VAST generalizations!! I feel like this should be in the newbie forum, but who knows. Regardless, you are clearly projecting that type of personality....seems you make need to start projecting a bit of a more of an adventureous/out of the box side to you. Don't be a predictable guy, maybe they think you are too straight laced. Also, try branching out where you are looking as well as even what you look like (find out about sexy stereotypes). Try different looks and witness how different people (girls) may or may not treat you.

You DEFINITELY need to get some sort of edge or just be more outgoing possibly

[CarltonBanks]

(04-02-2013 10:22 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 08:57 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  

I guess I can't complain about this......
(it will be worse if you were in an opposite situation)

Even at bars, most of the time, I always end up getting connected with good girls.
(Definition for good girls: I don't know their behind curtain sexual history. I just mean, they don't have those trashy look on their face at all. I can proudly take them to the dinner with my friends and won't worry about her handling the conversation)

I don't limit myself though. I still hit on slutty hot girl, party girl types.
The conversation usually goes nowhere.

I had good interaction with this nurse lady last week. we talked about travelling, other cultures, foods, careers etc. I can't talk about those with those slutty hot girls.
I don't want to say 'they are just dumb and I am better than them intellectually'
Maybe, I am not just their type and they are not interested in going into deep conversation?

Obviously, I don't want to settle down with those kind of women.
But like any other men, I have a desire to interact with them just sexually.

I guess I have this nice/good guy look on my face.
But I have no intention to force myself to act like one of those douche bag club monkeys just hoping to attract hot club girls.

Do you guys see the pattern for type of girls you attract?

Your last question, no I set the pattern for the type of girls I'm attracted to. Don't project the good girl/bad girl onto these women, just think of them as women, they all react to the same biological urges and to the same cues and cards. Play them right, play them congruently and you'll get laid regardless of the good/bad.

yup

[Parlay44]

I'm jealous. All I attract are sluts

I think you need to bust out a data sheet and breakdown your method.

[germanico]

Double bullshit.

First, theres no such thing as a "good girl", its only your perception of her. A girl can "look slutty" and be a quasi-virgin that only has sex for reproductive purposes, or she can be miss goody two shoes and be gangbanged by bikers at a truck stop every friday.

Second, you attract what you interact with. If you want "slutty looking" girls, then only approach those.

Quote:

I had good interaction with this nurse lady last week. we talked about travelling, other cultures, foods, careers etc. I can't talk about those with those slutty hot girls.
I don't want to say 'they are just dumb and I am better than them intellectually'
Maybe, I am not just their type and they are not interested in going into deep conversation?

Here is your problem. You are relying on "deep conversation" to attract women. Which wouldnt be a bad thing by itself, but if you want hot casual sex, you shouldnt court women, you should be offering them hot casual sex, not deep emotional connections.

Be sexual, be aggressive.

[Ensam]

(04-02-2013 09:49 PM)IpsaScientiaPotestasEst Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 05:19 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

My anecdotal tale from a few weeks ago:
Girl A: Met at a bar in the afternoon. Already a little drunk. Dressed slutty. Makes out with me at the bar, I take her home, we bang.

Girl B: Grad student. Total good girl. Responsible, doesn't drink, takes care of herself, etc.

Which one do you think was a dead fish in bed and which one was begging me to come in her ass? I'm sure you can figure it out.

Ummm??......I'm confused, cause I could see it being either.

That was my point. You just can't tell. In this case it's the grad student who likes it up the ass.

[IpsaScientiaPotestasEst]

(04-03-2013 01:40 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 09:49 PM)IpsaScientiaPotestasEst Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 05:19 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

My anecdotal tale from a few weeks ago:
Girl A: Met at a bar in the afternoon. Already a little drunk. Dressed slutty. Makes out with me at the bar, I take her home, we bang.

Girl B: Grad student. Total good girl. Responsible, doesn't drink, takes care of herself, etc.

Which one do you think was a dead fish in bed and which one was begging me to come in her ass? I'm sure you can figure it out.

Ummm??......I'm confused, cause I could see it being either.

That was my point. You just can't tell. In this case it's the grad student who likes it up the ass.

Gotcha, that's what I figured but I just wanted to make sure.

Again though, you'd be REALLY surprised how much the quiet/introverted/goody too shoe girls are the ones who turn into FREAKS in the bedroom.

We need a breakdown on your style of game. Literally what stereotype your look is, as well as usual girls you talk to and how/where you do it-etc. Analysis and then we can maybe give you a more specified breakdown.

[TheRookie]

I want to defend OP, I feel the same way about connecting better with the chicks who are ostensibly good. This is sort of self-fulfilling though as the more polite and relatively more intelligent girls are going to be more receptive to a random stranger hitting on them.

If you have a sort of classic all-American look you will connect well with these girls.

[Sebastian]

Guys, I don't want to argue about what a 'good girl' is.
(From my experience, I know if someone talks about 'oh I just met this good girl. she is special' on PUA forums, he will hear women-hating comments like 'lol you don't think she never swallowed guy's cum?' 'I bet she sucked cocks 3x more than you can guess hahaha'. how this kind of bitter comments can help someone?)

I just meant, those girls look 'like' good girls.
(Let's not argue about 'ew how can you tell about someone by their appearance')
Those are the type of girls you can take to your family without any worries.
You know they will approve her just by looking at her face. you won't worry about leaving her alone with them because you know she won't say anything stupid.
(she might ride you like a whore and swallow your cum at the end. but that's not the point here)

I guess I have to change my question little bit.
Whether she is hot or not, if she looks like she is pro at handling guys, I can't attract them
(perfect example is hooter's girl- girls who know how to flirt, dress naughty, heavy make up, looks like a smoker, massive bitch shield etc)

I guess I might have a good image from her parents but she may not be actually interested.
('why don't you go out with johnny? he seems like a good boy'
'LOL I guess but he is not my type'
VS
'how the hell did you find a guy like johnny? are you crazy?'
'mom but I like him...')

hm..birds of feather flock together?

[Nomad77]

In every good girl there's a bad girl just waiting for a bad boy to bring her out

[Giovonny]

If you are only attracting good girls, then you must be a good guy.

You are probably a clean cut, nice guy, type. Thats why you only attract similar type girls.

"Bird of a feather, flock together"

Now, you want to bang some strippers, club sluts, and Hooters girls.

No problem.

Start approaching these types of girls. You probably don't have much experience talking to and flirting with these types. That's why you haven't learned how to attract them.

Your solution is simple. You want bad girls, talk to bad girls, thats the only way to get them.

At first you will probably struggle, you will seem boring to them, you will talk about nice guy stuff, you will be too nice to them, you will not tease them and challenge them.

But, after a hundred approaches or so, you will start to adjust your personality, you will learn how to talk to these girls. You will treat them like they are inferior to you. You will tease them, you will learn to create tension, you will learn what topics to avoid and what topic to bring up.

You want sluts? Study them. Learn their ways. Learn their language. Learn the perspective. Then, you can properly engage them. The more sluts you talk to, the better you will become.

There are no shortcuts. You want sluts, go talk to sluts. Practice and repetition is the only way to improve.

[guerrilla]

This is nothing to complain about

Many guys can't attract any girls at all.

[Sebastian]

It's interesting for me at a bar or club.
I hate any girls who carries any sort of trash features.
The thing is they are even harder than classy girls.

I understand stripper looking 8 girl's value is higher than classy 7 girl at a bar.

Last week, I was talking to this victorian era classy pretty lady who looks like she popped out of old classic movie.
she was very nice to me. She was an art history teacher

On the other hand, this smoker girl who looks bit trash, looks definitely uglier than a girl above, works as a server, wouldn't be nice talking to me.

So my best target is classy girls who are 7 and 8.
If she looks bit trashy, party girl type, it doesn't matter even though she is ugly and fat. I won't have chance with her.

[Player_1337]

(04-02-2013 10:42 AM)Mon Wrote:  

You're supposed to train chicks to be what/who you want them to be.
Become a slut-engineer.

The term "slut-engineer" had me in stitches.