[Wayout]

Fate had it, a beautiful girl moved in in the same building I live. She looked tall, athletic, around 25, sexy body.
Should I even bother was my first thought? I will have to see her everyday after all. What if she rejects me? Wouldn't that be weird seeing her and saying awkward hello everyday?

There is also another guy in the building of datable age and not married. He is a real loser, part time job, into soft drugs...etc. I talked to him a few times just to be polite but didn't care for him.

One day I see the guy and he starts talking to me, typical guy conversation : of course he brings up the hot girl who moved in recently. The same girl I though I had no chance with. Apparently, him being a loser and into drugs, he felt he has nothing to lose by talking to ANY girl he likes. Also, it just so happened, the angel I put so high on a pedestal, liked to consume some pain pills once in a while.

Long story short, he was already fucking her in exchange for some pain pills!

That shit just pissed me off so much! You can get a pill for maybe 10-15 bucks.
Song playing....Can't buy me love...hahah

[Giovonny]

You put limits on yourself.

You rejected yourself.

You didn't talk to her.

You made 3 mistakes.

He talked to her. He banged her.

[OGNorCal707]

I like this post, not so much the content, but he underlying message... Just as Gio points out, you cock blocked yourself with your limiting beliefs, low self confidence, and more important your rationalizations. So often we make rationalizations whether it be rationalizing why we shouldn't talk to a hot woman, or how we rationalize why we shouldn't stop banging the psycho bitch who gives amazing head.

Perhaps the most important lesson is not to put the pussy on the pedestal, I am coming to realize more and more how this is such a key tenant to having air tight game. Besides just benefiting game, not putting the pedestal is just the right move on so many levels, because it reflects reality.

The OP wrote: "Also, it just so happened, the angel I put so high on a pedestal, liked to consume some pain pills once in a while. Long story short, he was already fucking her in exchange for some pain pills!" There was no reason to assume she wasn't a whore, maybe by putting her on a pedestal, he created this aura around her, and built her up in his mind to be someone she was not. Another thing I am realizing and learning the hard way, in addition to the lessons taught by Uncle Roosh, is that so many of American women are just flat out whores!...

Now, ofcourse there are nice girls, and everything in between, but recently in comparison to women from other nations, I am more aware then ever, that American women, are largely raging sluts. Instead of assuming she's an angel that you will have to wine and dine to fuck, assume she is a whore that will be swallowing your cum at the end of the night.

Oh yeah and BTW, I think this would be better moved to the game forum.

[Wayout]

OGNorCal707, That exactly the point I was trying to make! You never know who she is. You just can't know! Don't assume anything about anyone and you will not be fooled ever!
We all, including men, have to project an image of who we are. That teacher who you though was the most straight forward person is probably frequent at gang bang parties and you would never have a clue! This girl I used to talk to had a fetish for old men with gray hair. She said she would absolutely put out for any guy over 50 with grey hair. Now she is a 19 year old with a body of a model! Some girls like accents. Some girls have weird things they find super attractive like rings or tatoos...etc.
You just never know! That mole on your face that you think limits you might be a turn on for some girl.

[MikeCF]

(03-30-2013 07:44 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

OGNorCal707, That exactly the point I was trying to make! You never know who she is. You just can't know! Don't assume anything about anyone and you will not be fooled ever!
We all, including men, have to project an image of who we are. That teacher who you though was the most straight forward person is probably frequent at gang bang parties and you would never have a clue! This girl I used to talk to had a fetish for old men with gray hair. She said she would absolutely put out for any guy over 50 with grey hair. Now she is a 19 year old with a body of a model! Some girls like accents. Some girls have weird things they find super attractive like rings or tatoos...etc.
You just never know! That mole on your face that you think limits you might be a turn on for some girl.

You need to dig deeper. You are only at the surface. You are making the post about her.

Something about the way you view yourself stopped you from approaching her.

You said she's a druggie, which seems to make you think she is on your level.

See what's going on?

Why does a girl have to be a pill popper in order for you to feel good enough for her?

What you are saying, at least subconsciously, is, "I'm only good enough for drug addicts."

What is it about your view of yourself that is preventing you from talking to girls?

Do you feel too weak, too short, too fat, too poor, too bald, too....????

That's not a question for you to answer to me. It's a question you need to answer for yourself.

Once you actually know what your actual limiting belief is, then you can talk about destroying it.

[Purple Urkle]

(03-30-2013 08:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 07:44 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

OGNorCal707, That exactly the point I was trying to make! You never know who she is. You just can't know! Don't assume anything about anyone and you will not be fooled ever!,
We all, including men, have to project an image of who we are. That teacher who you though was the most straight forward person is probably frequent at gang bang parties and you would never have a clue! This girl I used to talk to had a fetish for old men with gray hair. She said she would absolutely put out for any guy over 50 with grey hair. Now she is a 19 year old with a body of a model! Some girls like accents. Some girls have weird things they find super attractive like rings or tatoos...etc.
You just never know! That mole on your face that you think limits you might be a turn on for some girl.

You need to dig deeper. You are only at the surface. You are making the post about her.

Something about the way you view yourself stopped you from approaching her.

You said she's a druggie, which seems to make you think she is on your level.

See what's going on?

Why does a girl have to be a pill popper in order for you to feel good enough for her?

What you are saying, at least subconsciously, is, "I'm only good enough for drug addicts."

What is it about your view of yourself that is preventing you from talking to girls?

Do you feel too weak, too short, too fat, too poor, too bald, too....????

That's not a question for you to answer to me. It's a question you need to answer for yourself.

Once you actually know what your actual limiting belief is, then you can talk about destroying it.

Awesome.

[Purple Urkle]

Double trouble.

[GenJx]

(03-30-2013 08:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 07:44 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

OGNorCal707, That exactly the point I was trying to make! You never know who she is. You just can't know! Don't assume anything about anyone and you will not be fooled ever!
We all, including men, have to project an image of who we are. That teacher who you though was the most straight forward person is probably frequent at gang bang parties and you would never have a clue! This girl I used to talk to had a fetish for old men with gray hair. She said she would absolutely put out for any guy over 50 with grey hair. Now she is a 19 year old with a body of a model! Some girls like accents. Some girls have weird things they find super attractive like rings or tatoos...etc.
You just never know! That mole on your face that you think limits you might be a turn on for some girl.

You need to dig deeper. You are only at the surface. You are making the post about her.

Something about the way you view yourself stopped you from approaching her.

You said she's a druggie, which seems to make you think she is on your level.

See what's going on?

Why does a girl have to be a pill popper in order for you to feel good enough for her?

What you are saying, at least subconsciously, is, "I'm only good enough for drug addicts."

What is it about your view of yourself that is preventing you from talking to girls?

Do you feel too weak, too short, too fat, too poor, too bald, too....????

That's not a question for you to answer to me. It's a question you need to answer for yourself.

Once you actually know what your actual limiting belief is, then you can talk about destroying it.

[Wayout]

(03-30-2013 08:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 07:44 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

OGNorCal707, That exactly the point I was trying to make! You never know who she is. You just can't know! Don't assume anything about anyone and you will not be fooled ever!
We all, including men, have to project an image of who we are. That teacher who you though was the most straight forward person is probably frequent at gang bang parties and you would never have a clue! This girl I used to talk to had a fetish for old men with gray hair. She said she would absolutely put out for any guy over 50 with grey hair. Now she is a 19 year old with a body of a model! Some girls like accents. Some girls have weird things they find super attractive like rings or tatoos...etc.
You just never know! That mole on your face that you think limits you might be a turn on for some girl.

You need to dig deeper. You are only at the surface. You are making the post about her.

Something about the way you view yourself stopped you from approaching her.

You said she's a druggie, which seems to make you think she is on your level.

See what's going on?

Why does a girl have to be a pill popper in order for you to feel good enough for her?

What you are saying, at least subconsciously, is, "I'm only good enough for drug addicts."

What is it about your view of yourself that is preventing you from talking to girls?

Do you feel too weak, too short, too fat, too poor, too bald, too....????

That's not a question for you to answer to me. It's a question you need to answer for yourself.

Once you actually know what your actual limiting belief is, then you can talk about destroying it.

Yes, you are right. I feel I am not good enough for many girls. I seem to approach girls that have some obvious flaws...
And yes I feel too old, too fat, too short, too poor....The said part I am all of those things.
Thanks for your post though...you hit the nail on the head and it doesn't happen that often.
Any advice on how to fix this? I don't think it a low self esteem issue because I like myself,it's just I don't feel I deserve top of the line girls.

[JoyStick]

(03-30-2013 07:44 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

Yes, you are right. I feel I am not good enough for many girls. I seem to approach girls that have some obvious flaws...
And yes I feel too old, too fat, too short, too poor....The said part I am all of those things.
Thanks for your post though...you hit the nail on the head and it doesn't happen that often.
Any advice on how to fix this? I don't think it a low self esteem issue because I like myself,it's just I don't feel I deserve top of the line girls.

just work on yourself until you believe you're the baddest motherfucker around. get healthy, get in shape, stack your chips up. and don't hate on your neighbor for getting laid. drug game works. haha.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(03-30-2013 05:21 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

Fate had it, a beautiful girl moved in in the same building I live. She looked tall, athletic, around 25, sexy body.
Should I even bother was my first thought? I will have to see her everyday after all. What if she rejects me? Wouldn't that be weird seeing her and saying awkward hello everyday?

There is also another guy in the building of datable age and not married. He is a real loser, part time job, into soft drugs...etc. I talked to him a few times just to be polite but didn't care for him.

One day I see the guy and he starts talking to me, typical guy conversation : of course he brings up the hot girl who moved in recently. The same girl I though I had no chance with. Apparently, him being a loser and into drugs, he felt he has nothing to lose by talking to ANY girl he likes. Also, it just so happened, the angel I put so high on a pedestal, liked to consume some pain pills once in a while.

Long story short, he was already fucking her in exchange for some pain pills!

That shit just pissed me off so much! You can get a pill for maybe 10-15 bucks.
Song playing....Can't buy me love...hahah

Welcome to the world of self-doubt, my friend! I have several stories like this. The worst was when the hottest high school cheerleader got a crush on me. And I mean THE hottest: 5'3" blonde with massive 100 percent natural boobs. Cute. Sweet. Called me all the time. We'd go to the mall and heads would turn. But I passed her up and stayed with my regular wench because (get this) I had it in my brain that "cheerleaders date football players" and I was too short and not a jock -- even though she came out and told me she preferred my body type.

So what happened? She ended up dating and then marrying a guy from school even shorter and scrawnier than me. Last I saw of them was at her mom's funeral and he was also completely bald. Oops. Kinda missed that chance. Thanks to me.

PS: Hey, so where do you live? I just had kidney stones and have all these leftover pain pills and...

[Giovonny]

(03-30-2013 07:44 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

OGNorCal707, That exactly the point I was trying to make!

If that was the point you were trying to make, you would have titled your post -- "You never know about girls" or "You can't judge a book by its cover"

You titled your post - "Limiting beliefs and self rejection"

Your post was about how you rejected yourself and made assumptions that were not true.

Then MikeCF came and really broke it down.

You don't feel that you are good enough. You don't feel that you deserve hot girls.

(03-31-2013 12:56 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

And yes I feel too old, too fat, too short, too poor..

Any advice on how to fix this?

Eat a better diet, exercise more, get more quality sleep, take care of your skin and teeth, dress better, smile more, learn more jokes, get a fresh haircut, wear shoes with heels, wear inserts inside the shoes to boost up another inch or two, get a better job, be smarter with your money, work on your confidence, work on your game, be less logical, get out of your comfort zone, work harder and smarter on yourself.

[Lucky]

"There is something you need to fix if there is a girl you are very attracted to but your feet don’t start moving in her direction."

http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-pick-up-girls-for-real

I forced myself to remember this quote whenever I was out and saw a girl I liked.

Changed my game, and my approach rate. I've probably talked to twice as many girls this past year than I otherwise would've had I not read that.

He who hesitates, masturbates.

[DarkGable]

Awesome thread and insights. It reminds me of a number of situations I've been in where I have effectively rejected myself and not given the girl a chance to make a decision. Many times another guy has gotten the girl and I've rationalised that there was something wrong with the girl for liking him. The truth is that the other guy was just man enough to make the play for her, unlike myself.

[heavy]

(03-31-2013 12:56 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

And yes I feel too old, too fat, too short, too poor....The said part I am all of those things.

Eat exercise wear boots work and save...you can't get younger...but...

The key there is 'feel'...that's what drives the second part of the statement.

You may be old, you may be fat, you may be short and poor. But you aren't TOO any of those things.

...and you know that intellectually. Focus on that feeling. Shine a light on it and accept it. Limiting beliefs are like shadows, when you accept them it's like shining a light on them, and they disappear...or at least aren't as scary.

Then you have to move tho. If you accept this shit, it's relief...but you have to do something once you've relieved your shit. Don't sit on the pot or it'll come back.

There's someone older, someone fatter, someone shorter and poorer than you banging hotties.

Don't worry we all have our monsters.