[clr]

So real quick I have to board the plane now but I was thinking, I love the qualities of Colombianas for example. They are hot, sexy, love sex, take care of their man. Cons, you kinda have to worry about infidelity, they chase the money and are jealous as hell,

I was thinking about how good girls turn to bitches from moving to the US and hanging out with american girls. They end up being more american like.

So what if you got a nice colombian girl and moved her to say.... Japan, or south east asia, where women are more submissive, dont cheat near as much (generalizing) etc.... they would start to act in accordance to the locals???!??!?!!? The whole opposite effect.

thoughts?

[MiXX]

(06-13-2010 03:30 PM)clr Wrote:  

So real quick I have to board the plane now but I was thinking, I love the qualities of Colombianas for example. They are hot, sexy, love sex, take care of their man. Cons, you kinda have to worry about infidelity, they chase the money and are jealous as hell,

I was thinking about how good girls turn to bitches from moving to the US and hanging out with american girls. They end up being more american like.

So what if you got a nice colombian girl and moved her to say.... Japan, or south east asia, where women are more submissive, dont cheat near as much (generalizing) etc.... they would start to act in accordance to the locals???!??!?!!? The whole opposite effect.

thoughts?

It's already been done by many hopeless romantic men my friend. There are 3 major problems with doing this:

1- Colombian culture dictates that especially women, are extremely tied to her mother and immediate family.
2- Take her 3,000 miles away from what she normally is used to, and chances are within 6 months, she'll be begging/fighting you to bring her back. The novelty, and romance of running away with you as your bride/fiance to a foreign land will wear off fairly quick, and when it does, you are in for an emotional roller coaster of hell. Eventually, Skype is just not going to cut it, and she'll drive you to insanity with her constant bitchiness after a while from her emotions of being away from her culture, family and friends. So, I don't see how this can be a long-term thing that has any chance of surviving for more than 3 years if you make it that far.
3- If she is not educated, then she must become educated not only in a new language, but also a new career - because the last thing you want, is her sitting at home "bored out of her mind"....bored women, WILL find ways to entertain themselves - and here comes the boy next door (a.k.a Jodi), or the new girlfriend who has a brother/cousin/good guy friend - with a serious eye on your trophy.


Colombianas who are taken out of their own society where they must compete for men, amongst women more beautiful than they are, and in record numbers - will change no matter where you take them. That is, unless its a remote island where its just you and her. =)


I'va banged colombian women with husbands and boyfriends in Argentina, Panama, Miami, New York, London, and Puerto Rico, Costa Rica and even Spain. So, this just tells me it's in their nature, not their environment.

I am not sure if you heard how a recent beauty pageant queen in Colombia had her face disfigured because someone threw acid on her face in Cucuta. This was very recent in the last 2 days or so. Competition amongst girls is extremely brutal to be the sexiest, and most beautiful, and most sought after. I have never seen any other country in the world place so most social pressure on women and vanity to such extremes.

As a result, Colombian women are the most needy and clingy women I have ever met on the planet. Constant attention, and a sense of security must be given to her on an hourly basis!! Fail to do this, and she'll look elsewhere to satisfy this craving for attention, just like we need to satisfy our craving for sex.

There are countless of stories like the one I just told you about - as much as I love banging Colombian women, I would never take her out of her natural element and bring her elsewhere to marry - the chances of infidelity have now increased by more than 75% for you simply because they are never satisfied, and want more....this is just how they are.


This is not to say that if you keep her in Colombia, she will be faithful to you, hell - I've banged girls with boyfriends in Colombia dozens of times, as I am almost certain that you have too. So, even in Colombia, there is no guarantee that cheating will not happen if she can get away with it.

After 20 years of dating and banging Colombian women, I have learned to not bother trying to change them - it's their culture. It is what it is. Enjoy them while you have 'em 'cuz exclusivity is not permanent.

Mixx

[clr]

i can tell you know colombianas very well true, but here I am in tel aviv with a tica from costa rica, her friend moved here for a guy 2 1/2 years ago, and she is telling me that yeah she misses her family but she needs to move on with her life, so maybe the culture is changing a bit too. These latinas need to get off their momas tits.

More and more I am finding that no girls are fucking faithful and its kinda depressing. Getting good with women kinda destroys that whole positive view of the world, ignorance is bliss. Fuck I dont know if i will ever be able to trust women after all the girls with bf's husbands, girls I really thought were good girls and then I fucked or someone else I know fucked. Its crazy and I am definitely jadded.

[hydrogonian]

Great Post Mixx. I've never read a post like that summing up Colombians so succinctly. Really good insight into female cheating to. I would say that its more common then men generally think, and not only with Colombians. If your off your game with any woman, at all, there is a strong chance of cheating. In a way, this is what makes maintaining a realtionship with any woman a little exhausting. You can't really ever relax insofar as the effort that your putting in... thats one of my primary problems...

I'll even go so far to say that cheating is in the nature of most women...
Its only their relative level of boredom and security that keeps them from doing so, as Mixx stated is the case with Colombians...

For instance, a woman raising kids with a husband that brings home good money and gives her attention is less likely to cheat. Take out any one of those factors, and I think the risk goes up proportionally...

Not to say all women cheat, but I think more women cheat than than guys think, and they are more slick about it then guys are. Usually, you'll never know.

If you know this, it does help a guy to better keep a players mindset. Get the love when you can, and where you can, but don't expect it to be there tomorrow, and don't expect to be able to count on fidelity...knowing this helps keeping you from becoming attached, overly sentimanetal about women, and beta...

[Nonpareil]

Making girls good at what? If it's anything other than sex, prepare for a letdown.

It's the lifestyle in the USA that does it. I can't name any other country (aside from americanized nations such as Canada and Australia, as well as English-speaking Europe) where women have carte blanche to engage in the fuckery that they do here.

No fault divorce, government-sanctioned favoritism, mandatory hiring quotas, affirmative action, male-targeting law-enforcement, cheap, safe and efficient abortions, rampant political correctness, anti-depressants handed out on every street corner, the culture of celebrity worship, Oprah...

And terrible as all of this is, it's made a thousand times worse by one omnipresent truth; There is always a next man waiting to foot her bills once she tosses you to the curb.

The reason women act like women in places like South America and Eastern Europe is because society hasn't been brainwashing them into thinking they're men.

As for not having any faith in women after you learn game, it's a blessing in a curse. It's tough to see someone you once respected in truly human terms, I agree.

All that being said, there is one crucial end that game serves, and that's why even though I do enjoy the odd delusion, I just can't discount the fact that...

Getting laid frequently while seeing things as they are > Getting laid rarely while being deluded.

Your moment of Zen, RIP Guru

[Pepini]

[quote='clr' pid='21040' dateline='1276554144']
a driend of mine recently had a make out with a girl that is two month pregnant from another guy. how fucked up is that???

[MiXX]

(06-14-2010 06:58 PM)Pepini Wrote:  

[quote='clr' pid='21040' dateline='1276554144']
a driend of mine recently had a make out with a girl that is two month pregnant from another guy. how fucked up is that???

I got a better one. I was in Colombia about 3 months ago, and one day, a Colombian buddy of mine told me he recently hooked up with an ex-girlfriend from 3 years ago; she was 6 months pregnant from her current boyfriend, and she still banged him an entire afternoon. I know to heart he would not BS me about this, becuase I actually saw her leave his apt. I for one, could not do such a thing - I have my limits, but it just goes to show you how far Colombian women go. And do you think her babby daddy is EVER going to know about her little "fuck escapade" that lasted one afternoon?

[clr]

no, thats actually one of the things that really made me understand the colombian mentality.... this my ex was chick was cheating on me with her BF she left him for me(because I told her I dont do the other guy thing, more then for a shag or two), some how the conversation came up about that, she said she would never tell him because she didnt want to hurt it. Ahhhhhh thats their out. I am not a liar and a cheater, I am being good because I dont want to hurt the guy I love. Turns out she never broke up with him like she told me and we dated again for 3 months Go figure.

I have a good one too, the lady that was cutting my hair was from argentina. She was telling me all about her BF and how she was taking him to meet her family in argentina. Well she invited me out with the "girls" one night for a drink, I was actually thinking nothing of it, figured I would hook up with some of the other girls... things led to my place after we get all down and dirty she starts talking and I find out BF only makes love to her and wont fuck her, and she wants to get her hair pulled and ass spanked sometimes CLR to the rescue.... so the fucked up part to the story?

We are hooking up here and there.... then, its been a few weeks she comes back from her little vacation, few days later she texts me "I got engaged today" I text back, "congratulations! we should celebrate." I invite her over to my place, glass of wine and, yup you guessed it... shag and rock her little world. Happy engagement present. Ahhhhh it does bring a grin to my face

[Willy Wonka]

(06-15-2010 05:01 AM)clr Wrote:  

We are hooking up here and there.... then, its been a few weeks she comes back from her little vacation, few days later she texts me "I got engaged today" I text back, "congratulations! we should celebrate." I invite her over to my place, glass of wine and, yup you guessed it... shag and rock her little world. Happy engagement present. Ahhhhh it does bring a grin to my face

WOW. Lmao.

I've fucked a few dude's girlfriends, but that definitely takes the cake.

[clr]

its sad though, because of shit like this, I just dont trust women anymore..... probably less then 5% that dont fuck around, guys are like, oh she must be a slut, whore, bitch, most of these girls are really sweet and nice, I found out almost every girl is missing something from her relationship, made love to, getting fucked, guy who listens to her, intimacy, you find out what it is, give it to her and you can fuck her.

[MiXX]

@clr. You're not alone in not trusting women. The more I bang wives, girlfriends, fiancés and the like, the more I realize that I could never be married or involved in a "serious" relationship. It's only a set up to have everything crumble in the end. Love is a nice recreational drug; once it wears off, you will crash hard.

[BigDonDickDangler]

Faithful in latinamerica= not getting caught

[Rocco81]

Yeah Def. Colombianas are bad bad chicas ...I have come to realize this.

I think your run of the mill Americana (like small town American...not redneck backwoods American) is more Faithful than your average South American girl. The American girls I've dated, while not as pretty, experimental, sexy or fem as the South American girls, are simply more faithful. They tend to like sex less in general. This is bad for us when we want to bang in the car on the side of the road at Noon...but good for us when we want to trust the bitch not to blow the guy that pumps her gas.

I think your avg. American girls usually is more likely to cheat when she becomes unhappy and its more about an emotional void she wants to fill. The Colombian or Brazilian is more about getting hot and romantic in the moment (lets say a dancefloor somewhere) and banging a dude for fun.

[Rocco81]

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[hydrogonian]

If I ever settle down, I might have to go Asian. The brattiness is probably worth the tradeoff for increased submissiveness and the decreased chance of infidelity. I've even met some very even keeled Chinese women, that weren't little brats. Although, on second thought, I've banged a married Asian woman too.

Maybe I'll just meet human nature head on, and open a whorehouse in South America. I'm thinking either a nice place in Puerto Alegre, to take advantage of all of the stock down there, or perhaps more of a pirates den type of place in Central America, like the older latin pimp guy from Kill Bill II.

[Rocco81]

Yeah Hydro I will go in with you on that idea...need a business partner? I actually partied with a dude druing Carnival in Bolivia who owns a few whore houses...he had some of his best whores driving him around

Im my experiences, Bolivia and Chilean, Paraguayan and Uruaguayn girls are pretty faithful. I have only had chile and Bolivia out of that group but I have some friends who are dating / married to women from the other countries and they are all pretty cool girls, not as wild as a Colombiana.

I've talked to Mixx about this and I think that Mexican girls, the good ones, are very faithful. After having gone to Central America I met the good and bad.

For instance in Guatemala I met one girl who was an Architect fresh out of school...good family and good upbringing. She was def. not a slut , very classy and pretty and would make a great wife just wasn't my type and the timing was bad, but it wasn't until like 6 months of meeting her in person and chatting online that she came to visit me and finally asked me to "make love to her". This girl was selective and old school about it. On the flip side, I met a girl from the barrio that was banging her husband, a neighbor, wanted to bang me, was giving men "massages" for money...I mean ths bitch was just a cock fiend. She couldn't get enough and told me about she wanted 4 somes 5 somes, 2-3 men blowing loads on her face...and she had kids. Sad man.

Brazilian girls too seem to be really horny but far more faithful than a Colombianas I think... thoughts?

[hydrogonian]

I think that the true nature of women was always suppressed by society, and probably for valid reasons. The mechanisms that kept them from careers, being sluts (shame), and even voting were likely in place mostly to keep them faithful to men. Dependence on men likely played a large part in this faithfulness. With the advent of feminism, or even suffrage, a lot of those mechanisms went to hell. The truth is, women are about as faithful as their options. The same as men. They no longer have any of the traditional mechanisms of shame, dependence, lack of education, or lack of rights to keep them faithful in the family structure any longer. I think thats why a lot of women from traditional societies can still be good wives. They were raised without all of the empowerment.

I'm not saying that women shouldn't have the empowerment to a degree (probably a few degrees less in modern USA family law), but I do think that there is a trade-off in society. Everyone has to get together and choose.

As for the whore house thing, as long as we're all being honest about it, lets be honest about it! Nothing is more irritating than an empowered whore trying to pretend she's a lady. I'd rather consort with honest whores then bad girls pretending to be good. So, I'm up for it Rocco. I think we should go franchise style though, and back each other up on opposite sides of town. Its important for each house to respect one pimp. We can even do a hooker exchange program between houses. Sort of like study abroad for the ladies...

[Rocco81]

cool Hydro Im in....

As far as the true nature of women..I think it depends. I mean asside from all the shit we start to believe after meeting and banging chics, they really are MORE faithful than guys on avg. They simply do not need it as much as we do. Simple science can tell you that the avg. women has 7-10x less testosterone than men and this is the main driving hormone to sexual activity.

Some women of course will cheat, and some women really are just that horny (hairier women, stronger built, deeper or more raspy female voice, big clitted women = more testosterone in the womb = stronger sexual appetite) but most women usually cheat out of some unfulfilled need or as hydro suggested, maybe for a higher place in society. Its mor cerebral and less just getting a fuck in.

I think that we guys get very distorted in our ideas, after banging chics and gaming a little you start to think all chics are as horny as us and are cock craving nymphos that belong in hardcore porno (hell even most of the porn girls don't even really enjoy that shit) ...

I think that Hydro is mainly right, but I dont necessarily think that these rules were put on women to keep them down really (though that is an interesting idea) I think that women are more often than not simply just easily led/misled (game anyone?) and they all really do need some sort of strong leadership, I think this is part of mother natures way of forcing women to pair with the alpha or leader she is with, in other words many women to one alpha. I also think this is atleast parially why many women view a guy with a wife/GF or many lovers as desireable. But a woman with many men is a slut...its part of mother nature, protecting our own most precious investment, our seed our children and our bloodline.

Theses chics are soo confused now once they were told by their role models, professors, TV stars that they don't need men, families, god, love...they were left confused and searching. For women they can get degrees, nice cars, nice houses etc...but guys deep down don't really care about that. It's just human nature and women are starting to see that no matter how advanced and sophistacated they act, we still are either into them or not into them based on attraction first and then other "feminine qualities" next.

[oldnemesis]

(06-16-2010 11:02 PM)BigDonDickDangler Wrote:  

Faithful in latinamerica= not getting caught

Faithful everywhere = not getting caught

[Lumiere]

(06-14-2010 06:16 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

I'll even go so far to say that cheating is in the nature of most women...

Cheating is in the nature of all human beings for the simple reason that human being do NOT pair bond - in nature - for life.

If we did then the word "marriage" would not exist.

The concept of marriage would not exist. It would not have been invented. There would be no need.

Asking / demanding / expecting for women to go against their nature and being angry / jaded / disappointed when they don't is your own fault. Not theirs.

Don't blame them. Blame yourself.

The only way to not get cheated on is not have monogamous relationships.

[clr]

interesting.....

[Rocco81]

I completed disagree Lumier. You sound like a cuckold, no offense but you do. It sounds as if you are setting yourself up for loss in the beginning and its simply going to become a self fulfilling prophecy.

I know plenty of women that do not fuck around on thier husbands, usually the husband is an Alpha motherfucker that she fears, loves and respects. If anything the Alpha is out banging and she is at home with his kids ( I dont necessarily agree that this is ok either )

On the other hand using N. America as an example, the rate of female infidelity is very closely intertwined to the rise in feminazi view points, feminized men, stricter laws (never benefitting the man) and decline in morals in general. For every wife worshiping beta male that lets his wife slide away to get pounded out by the dump truck driver, there are 2-3 true alpha-esqu men atleast that keep a tight reign on shit. I know the men in my family border masogonyst (maybe its bad depending on how you look at it) and none but not any of them has had a woman cheat and/or leave his ass.

I really think that some of you guys (myself included too) place yours/our fucked up world views on everyone else and distorts perception. Not that its untrue all the time but it doesn't make our fears concerns any more valid as reality.

[Lumiere]

(09-18-2010 01:53 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

I completed disagree Lumier.

Of course you do. My opinions on this are completely counter-doctrinal.

(09-18-2010 01:53 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

You sound like a cuckold, no offense but you do.

You still don't get it dude. I have a lot of girlfriends. They all know that I have a lot of girlfriends. They also know they are free to do whatever they want with anyone else.

It's completely impossible to be cuckolded if you don't base your relationships with women on sexual possession.

[Rocco81]

Well Lumiere, I follow your example of having many girlfriends and I of course know that you have game. For your example of having many GF's and letting them know that, of course they are going to have other partners. That is a sound plan for your lifestyle. Got it.

What I was referring to was you seeming to imply that women are going to fuck around on you regardless of what you do, and that is something I completely disagree with.

Now the whole idea of non pair bonding humans, is somewhat true (I agree with you) but is usually the fault of the man...simply by our nature. Just as has been said a dozen times before, the Alpha in primitive societies (to a lesser extent today) might service several women. They bond to him, he may bond to none in particular. So, you're right about pair bonding sure, but not in a way that would suggest women are breaking the bond at the same rate.