[PhilE]

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/white-philly/

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Early on, during my walks around northern Fairmount, I’m surprised by a couple of things. One is the international flavor. On a warm Sunday in October, I buttonhole a woman I’ll call Anna, a tall, slim, dark-haired beauty from Moscow getting out of her BMW on an alley just south of Girard College. Anna goes to a local law school, works downtown at a law firm, and proceeds to let me have it when we start talking about race in her neighborhood.

“I’ve been here for two years, I’m almost done,” she says. “Blacks use skin color as an excuse. Discrimination is an excuse, instead of moving forward. … It’s a shame—you pay taxes, they’re not doing anything except sitting on porches smoking pot … Why do you support them when they won’t work, just make babies and smoking pot? I walk to work in Center City, black guys make compliments, ‘Hey beautiful. Hey sweetie.’ White people look but don’t make comments. … ”

I will comment on the bolded comment later in the thread about talking to white girls in Philly being a black guy...but thats for a different time but that bolded comment is important for later use.

But this thread is about the Response From the Black Media

http://intelligenthypocrite.blogspot.com...hilly.html

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Its troubling watching this Video “Discussion: "Being White in Philly"Philadelphia Magazine Article” I am starting to think that a certain wing of the “liberal” movement needs to be rebranded just as the Tea Party were for conservatives. And come to think of it, after watching this video there are a lot of similarities between those making comments/questions and tea partyers. Who are Tea Partyers? They are people who clearly ignore facts. People who quote things that were never said or taken completely out of context and then use those same fabricated quotes as facts. They are people who ignore the actual problem at hand and focus on a more minimal and sensationalized part of an event/story. And that is exactly what I saw watching this video.

Click on the Link to get a full breakdown of my response to that video

[Screwston]

Race thread

[Tuthmosis]

Paging Athlone McGinnis:

[ryanf]

[MikeCF]

Can Brian get unbanned for a day or three?

[kosko]

Black leadership in America has ZERO credibility. Black leadership continue to cry as victims as the self-destructing system imposed on them continues to send Black America in to the abyss. Nobody wants to take a good self-reflecting look in the mirror and take blame for the mega amounts of ignorance and passivity present in Black America as they sat back and let White folks feel sorry for them for a good 30-40 years.

As a Black man myself I get pissed off hearing Black talking heads speak as 90% are full of shit. The NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, any Black talking head of influence, all are shills. None give a shit about the structural problems present in Black American because any mention of it would attack the very power base that tosses them down crumbs. Literally almost every Black American of high influence pisses me off, name anybody from Jay-Z, to Al Sharpton, to Obama, etc all piss me the hell off with their hypocracy.

Nobody wants to ask why young Black men are stuck in a quagmire of violence, why the Black family continues to be fractured and fucked up, nobody wants to ask why a Black man in America has a better chance begin dead or in jail before 21 then in University. Only thing the Black establishment wants is for people to continue feeling sorry for them. Fuking sick of it.

The tides will turn when poor hispancs leave Black Americans in the dust as far as income and education metrics go which is probably only 10 years away from fully happening. These people whom for a generation where literally at the bottom simply exploited avenues they could and have positioned themselves to eclipse black America as the dominate Political minority group. Once this happens rest assured the Democrats will dump Black America by the waste side and look to prop up and buy the support of the Hispanic American contingent.

[Hencredible Casanova]

My boy went up to Philly this weekend. Said the nightlife was decent. White chicks there are way hotter than the ones in DC. They got that Italian ancestry thing going on.

[n0000]

There are definitely government interventions in the marketplace(war on drugs, minimum wage, child support/alimony racket, subsidies of corn and soybeans) that negatively affect black people disproportionately. If I were dictator for a day I would repeal these and a host of other laws on the books. That being said the constant cries of racism and denying all responsibility for actions on the part of the black run news organizations and black individuals is absolutely out of control. White people in general are getting more and more fed up with this nonsense and this article is a symptom of that. Can anyone really imagine it being published in a major publication in the 90s?

[jmoney29]

Jesse Jackson is in Detroit protesting the appointment of an Emergency Financial Manager who happens to be a black man. This doesn't get as much press about him because it doesn't fit into mainstream media's(CNN, MSNBC) depiction of him as an ambulance chaser. Also, Al Sharpton preached at my church last September about the upcoming election and self-determination. Mainstream media intensifies coverage of their actions when it involves "ambulance chasing", but barely mentions these guys when they go to help self-determination.

Also, lets pretend that all white people are all salt of the Earth and that there are no predominately white towns that have high crime stats.

[ColSpanker]

Interesting. The mayor of Philadelphia had a melt-down over this article last week.
I'm for anything to get people talking CIVILLY about race relations.
And it might help me meet some of those fly sistas going to CCP.

[_GQ_]

[mistermister]

i'm always intrigued by the memes and jokes that somehow need to come out during race threads... nobodies comfortable talking about this shit. yet it's pervasive in every part of the culture.

[Tuthmosis]

Relevant:

[hazara]

(03-24-2013 07:54 PM)jmoney29 Wrote:  

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Also, lets pretend that all white people are all salt of the Earth and that there are no predominately white towns that have high crime stats.

Which white majority towns in the US have high crime rates?

[megatron]

(03-24-2013 07:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Black leadership in America has ZERO credibility. Black leadership continue to cry as victims as the self-destructing system imposed on them continues to send Black America in to the abyss. Nobody wants to take a good self-reflecting look in the mirror and take blame for the mega amounts of ignorance and passivity present in Black America as they sat back and let White folks feel sorry for them for a good 30-40 years.

As a Black man myself I get pissed off hearing Black talking heads speak as 90% are full of shit. The NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, any Black talking head of influence, all are shills. None give a shit about the structural problems present in Black American because any mention of it would attack the very power base that tosses them down crumbs. Literally almost every Black American of high influence pisses me off, name anybody from Jay-Z, to Al Sharpton, to Obama, etc all piss me the hell off with their hypocracy.

Nobody wants to ask why young Black men are stuck in a quagmire of violence, why the Black family continues to be fractured and fucked up, nobody wants to ask why a Black man in America has a better chance begin dead or in jail before 21 then in University. Only thing the Black establishment wants is for people to continue feeling sorry for them. Fuking sick of it.

The tides will turn when poor hispancs leave Black Americans in the dust as far as income and education metrics go which is probably only 10 years away from fully happening. These people whom for a generation where literally at the bottom simply exploited avenues they could and have positioned themselves to eclipse black America as the dominate Political minority group. Once this happens rest assured the Democrats will dump Black America by the waste side and look to prop up and buy the support of the Hispanic American contingent.

* applauds *

I remember reading that during the 50's, the decade right before the huge increases in welfare and no/fault divorce*, Blacks only had about a 10% illegitmacy rate: better than Whites at the time. The bulk of Blacks were religious, conservative Christians and very family and community-oriented. Under racism and many other hardships, and without much government-help, Blacks depended on eachother and cared much more for one another.

Drug and alcohol problems? Same rate as Whites, more or less. Which is actually remarkable because the average Black's life was a lot tougher.

Maybe the most amazing thing was that in the 50's, the Black/White Pay Gap was significantly lower. In other words, now, Blacks earn a good deal LESS in relation to Whites.

Now? 70% illegitamcy rate. Rampant drug and violence.

This is what happens when Big Daddy, Marxist government steps in: Fathers and the Church are both replaced. Throw money at the single moms, reward rampant promiscuity and irresponsibility.

It's actually tragic. But now all of American society is following suit. Every year, more and more of us, White, Black, Asian, whatever, are becoming welfare/entitlement queens. Just as the government wants it. One could call it Soft Slavery.

*American Blacks have the highest divorce rate by race

[R Smoov]

Sup PhilE! (215 represent)

Everyone that questioned the article were lame.

Asking questions about why didn't the kid ask the white guy for weed and crack? This dumbass Pokemon really just asked the guy how come the drug dealing kid didn't ask the white guy if he wanted weed or crack. Like holy shit, who cares about the drug he was selling? He's 12 trying to sell drugs! Did you sell drugs at 12?

[Belize King]

One thing about the bolded part. We spit game every chance we get. I dont know what it is. Probably the way we grow up. The reason why we are always on the hunt. I've grown up a military brat, so I been around all cultures/backgrounds. I didn't move into a black area until New Orleans in '95 and notice the difference in culture. The difference in how black people game. The aggression is unique to black culture or just "hood" culture in general. LA mexicans are the same way.

Maybe callin women on the street "beautiful" or "sweetie" is a sign of thirstiness. I haven't decide on that yet but all I know is women love that shit. It puts a smile on their face when you tell them that. Now in the East coast or South, women probably hear that shit all day but whenever I travel aboard or just anywhere in general where the thirst or game isn't strong in the city women enjoy that compliment.

[Kentucky]

Read it.

Can't see what problem is, seemed like a very liberal article to me.

[pitt]

Thanks for sharing the article and your opinion on this (very interesting).

Check out the video below, Bennet goes hard about this subject. He made very good points. I like when he said ''Its not poverty that causes crimes, it's the lack of character that causes crimes and the majority of blacks dont have good morals today''.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abgbk7TOnqY

[jmoney29]

Stockton, CA to start, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton,_C...nia#Crime. Toledo, OH has lots of burglaries, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Stat...rime_rate. Same table, Minneapolis, Minnesota has a high forcible rape count and is followed closely by Colorado Springs, CO and Anchorage Alaska.

[Frost]

(03-24-2013 10:55 PM)megatron Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Black leadership in America has ZERO credibility. Black leadership continue to cry as victims as the self-destructing system imposed on them continues to send Black America in to the abyss. Nobody wants to take a good self-reflecting look in the mirror and take blame for the mega amounts of ignorance and passivity present in Black America as they sat back and let White folks feel sorry for them for a good 30-40 years.

As a Black man myself I get pissed off hearing Black talking heads speak as 90% are full of shit. The NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, any Black talking head of influence, all are shills. None give a shit about the structural problems present in Black American because any mention of it would attack the very power base that tosses them down crumbs. Literally almost every Black American of high influence pisses me off, name anybody from Jay-Z, to Al Sharpton, to Obama, etc all piss me the hell off with their hypocracy.

Nobody wants to ask why young Black men are stuck in a quagmire of violence, why the Black family continues to be fractured and fucked up, nobody wants to ask why a Black man in America has a better chance begin dead or in jail before 21 then in University. Only thing the Black establishment wants is for people to continue feeling sorry for them. Fuking sick of it.

The tides will turn when poor hispancs leave Black Americans in the dust as far as income and education metrics go which is probably only 10 years away from fully happening. These people whom for a generation where literally at the bottom simply exploited avenues they could and have positioned themselves to eclipse black America as the dominate Political minority group. Once this happens rest assured the Democrats will dump Black America by the waste side and look to prop up and buy the support of the Hispanic American contingent.

* applauds *

I remember reading that during the 50's, the decade right before the huge increases in welfare and no/fault divorce*, Blacks only had about a 10% illegitmacy rate: better than Whites at the time. The bulk of Blacks were religious, conservative Christians and very family and community-oriented. Under racism and many other hardships, and without much government-help, Blacks depended on eachother and cared much more for one another.

Drug and alcohol problems? Same rate as Whites, more or less. Which is actually remarkable because the average Black's life was a lot tougher.

Maybe the most amazing thing was that in the 50's, the Black/White Pay Gap was significantly lower. In other words, now, Blacks earn a good deal LESS in relation to Whites.

Now? 70% illegitamcy rate. Rampant drug and violence.

This is what happens when Big Daddy, Marxist government steps in: Fathers and the Church are both replaced. Throw money at the single moms, reward rampant promiscuity and irresponsibility.

It's actually tragic. But now all of American society is following suit. Every year, more and more of us, White, Black, Asian, whatever, are becoming welfare/entitlement queens. Just as the government wants it. One could call it Soft Slavery.

*American Blacks have the highest divorce rate by race

Black America has not done well in its fifty-year alliance with the left.

It's fun to read Malcolm X and realize that he predicted exactly what would happen if blacks tried to ally with the 'good' whites aka the MLK strategy. Now fifty years later black society has been utterly destroyed. Moldbug lays out the political dynamic very well here:

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot...ct_07.html

~99% of black Americans vote Democrat, but here's Steve Sailer on the central irony of the 21st century:

http://isteve.blogspot.ca/2013/03/the-ce...ntury.html

I predict a messy day for the liberal elite as soon as black America actually has real leaders who can explain just how completely they've been fucked over.

[BIGINJAPAN]

When Alex actually lets a guest talk you get to hear some really insightful stuff. Larry Elder knows exactly what has destroyed blacks in america. I am not surprised at all that most people don't know the KKK was the terror wing of the democratic party at one time.

[speakeasy]

(03-25-2013 12:32 PM)BIGINJAPAN Wrote:  

I am not surprised at all that most people don't know the KKK was the terror wing of the democratic party at one time.

The old style Democrats of the past are now in the far right-wing of the Republican party. When northern Democrats began to support civil rights in the 60s, the Democrat party began to rift between northern progressives and southern segregationists. The only thing binding them together ideologically-speaking was working class interests.

Alienated southern white Democrats began calling themselves "Dixiecrats". GOP strategists then figured they could woo these disgruntled southern whites into the Republican party via the Southern Strategy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

It began with Nixon and it's been successful every election since. Even in the last 2 elections. All this crap from the birther movement, Obama being equated with Islam, Obama being anti-white, etc. Glenn Beck said on Fox News that Obama's tax policies are tantamount to white slavery. Rush Limbaugh took an incident in the news of a black kid bullying a white kid on a school bus in Missouri and said, "this is Obama's America." It was just Southern Strategy 2.0. Appeal to white racial resentment in order to drive them to the Republican party. Even though the economic interest of the Republican party are not aligned with poor southern whites, they are with multi-national corporations.

I often hear that it's liberalism/welfare/socialism that destroyed the black community, but I don't believe for a second that libertarianism will be usher in an era of black success. I think you guys are also presenting a VERY sugar-picture of black American poverty in the past. All you need to do is look at black poverty rates by decade and they were FAR worse in the 50s than now. Look at this for example:

http://www.onbeing.org/program/seeing-po...ter-1/2152
"Between 1959 and 1979, the poverty rate among fully employed blacks went through 43% to 16%."

As for the original article, I haven't finished reading it but get the gist of what they're saying. I've been to Philly a few times and think it's really fucking ghetto. I mean I can walk around Leimert Park(a black area) in Los Angeles and feel like I'm not looking over my shoulder constantly. In Philly, you are always watching your back. I was born in that region though I'm rarely on the east coast. I know what it's like to drive through these inner-city neighborhoods and see neighborhood after neighborhood of rowhouses with dudes standing on the porch in the middle of the day not working, slanging dope, and women walking around with kids by different dads. It's pretty sickening and it's basically just a cultural and economic dead-zone in America. Unfortunately though, many people don't realize that most blacks in America don't live in the hood and are not hoodrats. And it saddens me that black is automatically equated to ghetto, even though the majority of blacks are actually middle-class.

[BIGINJAPAN]

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All this crap from the birther movement, Obama being equated with Islam

I don't want to derail the thread but come on, who in their right mind believes he put out a legitimate birth certificate ?

That is one of the worst photoshop jobs I have ever seen

[speakeasy]

(03-25-2013 02:11 PM)BIGINJAPAN Wrote:  

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All this crap from the birther movement, Obama being equated with Islam

I don't want to derail the thread but come on, who in their right mind believes he put out a legitimate birth certificate ?

That is one of the worst photoshop jobs I have ever seen