[Lemmo]

(03-20-2013 01:27 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

On the other hand, I think transgender people have a mental illness. Any man who wants to chop off his dick is seriously fucked up in the head, period. Political correctness can go fuck itself. It's laughable that this is taken seriously these days. I'm not denying that some people are born with feelings they are the wrong gender, but guess what? Some weird motherfuckers actually think they are animals (furries) and adopt animal sexual identities. What's next, are we going to have media campaigns that urge us to accept the furry sexual preference and bestiality? Will plastic surgeons begin "transitioning" these freaks so that they have a more animal-like appearance?

Man to animal transitions have already been done, for example, the case of the Cat Man. Shocker! - the guy was mentally ill and killed himself.

[speakeasy]

The female-to-male trannies are the ones that really trip me out.

Ever heard of this "guy" named Buck Angel?

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[Lemmo]

(03-20-2013 06:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

The female-to-male trannies are the ones that really trip me out.

Ever heard of this "guy" named Buck Angel?

Wow. Testosterone's a hell of a drug.

[soup]

For some reason, I get nauseous sometimes when I think about trannies. I think it has something to do with genitals being cutt off, or fake gentials, or underarm sweat of a man coming from a woman.

I think I'd puke if I made out with a tranny and didn't realize it until too late. That's how repugnant the idea of kissing another man is to me.

Mind you, I don't care what other people want to do, this is just my own feelings.

[Timoteo]

I just watched a piece on Discovery the other day about transsexuals who were preparing for their surgeries to complete the transformation from male to female and female to male. One of the preeminent surgeons is actually works out of a clinic in Montreal, Dr. Pierre Brassard. He has a waiting list years long of patients wanting the surgery. Doctors in Thailand are also experts at it, and some Americans go there because it's cheaper.

It's a long process to get it done also. First, you have to have letters from both a psychotherapist and a psychologist I believe. You have to have been living as the sex you wish to reassign to for a year, and have been on hormones also. The gender reassignment surgery is the final step.

These surgeons actually construct a functional pussy, complete with sensation, out of the head with connected nerves, and skin of your penis. The female to male is more tricky - they can't give you a functioning penis, but can essentially extend the clit, and give you prosthetic testicles. You can't fuck with it, but it has sensation. Yes, it's weird. What's weirder is these trannies find partners that KNOW they used to be the same gender as they were.

[babelfish669]

My theory: we will hit peak homosexuality in the next few decades, and then it will drop as these pollutants are removed from the environment.

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/a.../index.cfm

[ColSpanker]

"'...at the cost of a few disgusting bulldykes you get bi girls willing to do threesomes."
Quote of the month!

[Wutang]

(03-20-2013 08:28 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 07:42 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 07:15 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

dunno really, what i do know is no one gave a shit whether you were gay, bi or whatever before christianity and islam came along.

Oh, boy how wrong can you be?

There were always a minority of gays and there were always people who cared about masculinity and potency of survival of their tribe/nation/faith.

Everybody has always given some shit about it. Some supported it, some shamed it but everybody gave some shit.

Roman and Greek soldiers engaged in homosexuality very, very frequently. There wasn't any stigma at all, and they were very masculine in the sense they were warriors. Bojangles is right in the sense that it wasn't this big of an issue pre-Abrahamic religion.

Homosexuality occurs in many animals, but I agree with Lemmo that it is sort of a defect as it negates the ability to reproduce. I'm interested in the evolutionary reasons for it.

Trannies though? They annoy me, as do parents obsessed with raises gender-neutral children.

From what I've studied, it was still considered shameful to be the penetrated by someone who was of a lower social class of you. Now on the other hand, banging slaves or boys was a-okay. Homosexuality as it was practiced in the ancient Western world wasn't egalitarian in the way that modern homosexual activists would hope it would be.

Conservative old-school East Asian people tend not to think too highly of homosexuality either. Now they're not violent or aggressive about it in the way some Americans are. It's more of if other people want to do it then let them do it in the privacy of their own home, but I wouldn't want my kids to be gay attitude.

[Mage]

(03-21-2013 12:33 AM)Wutang Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 08:28 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 07:42 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 07:15 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

dunno really, what i do know is no one gave a shit whether you were gay, bi or whatever before christianity and islam came along.

Oh, boy how wrong can you be?

There were always a minority of gays and there were always people who cared about masculinity and potency of survival of their tribe/nation/faith.

Everybody has always given some shit about it. Some supported it, some shamed it but everybody gave some shit.

Roman and Greek soldiers engaged in homosexuality very, very frequently. There wasn't any stigma at all, and they were very masculine in the sense they were warriors. Bojangles is right in the sense that it wasn't this big of an issue pre-Abrahamic religion.

Homosexuality occurs in many animals, but I agree with Lemmo that it is sort of a defect as it negates the ability to reproduce. I'm interested in the evolutionary reasons for it.

Trannies though? They annoy me, as do parents obsessed with raises gender-neutral children.

From what I've studied, it was still considered shameful to be the penetrated by someone who was of a lower social class of you. Now on the other hand, banging slaves or boys was a-okay. Homosexuality as it was practiced in the ancient Western world wasn't egalitarian in the way that modern homosexual activists would hope it would be.

Conservative old-school East Asian people tend not to think too highly of homosexuality either. Now they're not violent or aggressive about it in the way some Americans are. It's more of if other people want to do it then let them do it in the privacy of their own home, but I wouldn't want my kids to be gay attitude.

Greek and Roman soldiers engaged homosexuality for the same reasons modern prisoners do. And they also kinda keep their masculinity by doing it IF they are the ones penetrating.

But Greeks and Romans are not the whole ancient world. Good luck finding a homosexual in a German tribe.

There were always homosexuals and there were always people who shunned them (especially those who offered their ass) but it was just not turned into a political issue like now.

[Bad Hussar]

(03-20-2013 06:10 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

The 'helpful gay' theory assumes 2 things:

1)Homosexuality is genetic
2)Homosexuality gives an evolutionary advantage, and is not simply a random mutation like hair colour.

I'm not anti-gay, but this is a political idea. They've decided that homosexuality has to be good for evolution, so they've rationalised this decision. It's a reactionary argument against those who attempt to criticise homosexuality from an evolutionary perspective.

Personally I don't think it is good for evolution, but I also don't see why that's a problem or makes it 'wrong'. It doesn't help our species when I wear a condom, or spunk in a girls mouth.

As heterosexuals, we don't feel the need to justify our lifestyles from an evolutionary perspective, and we aren't asked to. It's unfair to hold homosexuals to a standard that we do not hold ourselves to.

Firstly, I agree with you that the current explanation is probably politically motivated. They always say "the mathematics works", but I don't see how when the maths doesn't work for a birds wing to be even one degree different from optimal.

We need to understand, though, that evolution doesn't work for the good of the species. To the extent that it seems to it is just a byproduct of each individual, or really each strand of DNA that is defined as a gene within individuals, working for it's own benefit.

This is the reason why biologists feel they MUST find a genetic benefit in homosexuality. Their model of fundamental gene level evolution essentially doesn't work if they don't. Since homosexuals have existed for as long as history itself without the genes for it being weeded out it's difficult to come up with an alternative explanation.

It's true that certain diseases have existed forever as well, but in that case there is still some DNA somewhere being advantaged. Even if it is the DNA in a virus that gets to replicate. But people with Sickle Cell Aneamia or Tay Sachs, say, are not able in any sense to choose to have these diseases. Homosexuals on the other hand do have a choice, even if they feel mentally that they don't. What sort of disease is it if you can choose to have it or not? Personally I'm not convinced that homosexuality can be classified as a disease, though I also acknowledge that even if their was evidence for such a theory no scientist would be permitted to publish it.

[Ovid]

Why not call it a mental disorder, just like people who feel a need to hoard everything or find 400lbs attractive? Life experiences, repressed child abuse, the mind is a pretty complicated piece of equipment... I think the search for a genetic/evolutionary explanation for homosexuality is politically motivated, due to the perceived need of these people for "proof" to justify it to themselves and the world that gays can't help their attraction and that their sexual choices should be celebrated and normalized.

[Wutang]

All the explanations I've seen for the existence of homosexual behavior fall under the category of that it's certainly plausible and consistent with science - but not conclusive. Something I've been pondering about: if homosexuality really had an evolutionary function to control population growth or to provide extra protection for relatives wouldn't simply making an organism sterile as opposed to homosexual serve this purpose even better?

[kdolo]

"Gays" are a tiny percent of the population - barely worth mentioning as far as any movement or social policy is concerned.

So why the big deal ? all the talk about Gay Rights etc.....????

To the properly initiated and trained, this is recognized as propaganda by the "elites' who control the media and make up social policy.

But why focus on Gay issues, Gay rights, even to the point of promoting it as an acceptable lifestyle choice ??

The key is answering this question ? What is it that homosexual pairs cannot do that hetereosexuals can and most certainly will do after time ??

The answer ? Hetereosexuals are a 100% certainty to REPRODUCE.

The promotion of GAY RIGHTS, GAYNESS, is all about encouraging people to engage in behavior that does not result in reproduction - babies.

POPULATION CONTROL is the name of the game. And who to thank ? the 'controllers' - those who have huge power over formation of social policy, politics, and media.

thanks Mr. Rockefeller !

[Anon-A-Moose]

(03-20-2013 08:05 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

Exactly. I try not to hate them, but I fail most of the times. Probably because of their sense of entitlement and their disconnection from reality.

If you're a guy and want to get teh same sweet deal we give chicks, be a fag.

I don't care about who you sleep with or their gender. I treat it like religion. And as my dad said, "religion is like your dick. Nobody wants to see it, it's great that you have one, enjoy it, and don't jam it down your kids' and friends' throats."

[speakeasy]

I usually listen to NPR in the background during the day just to hear the latest headlines. I can't go one day without hearing about gays on there. Same with CNN, MSNBC.

The gay movement is really at a fever pitch right now to the point that the issue is really inescapable unless you turn off all media. You hear more about men wanting to marry men than you hear about the men that are getting killed in Afghanistan.

Edit --

Just read that freak Perez Hilton wanted to be a single dad and got a surrogate mother to have his kid. Feel sorry for that boy. Makes me appreciate my dad even more.

[Screwston]

This is in Houston

Quote:

We're Still Having These Fights? Local Teen Wants to Wear Dress to Prom, But School Says It Knows What's Best

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/...l_prom.php

[azulsombra]

(03-20-2013 02:48 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

The transgender thing isn't so clear cut. Our gender isn't determined by our genitalia, but by chromosomes and the brain. Sometimes you're one gender with the "wrong" genitalia. Some people are actually born with BOTH genitalia, and the wrong choice is made when the child is young. I know people tend to be more comfortable putting certain people in one box and categorizing them all the same, but the reality is it isn't that simple.

Some people are born with BOTH gentalia, just like some people are born with six fingers or other deformities. These cases you mention of transgender people born with both sets of genitalia are the exception to the rule. Far more common is the dude who was born with a dick and only a dick, and feels they were born the wrong gender. I will quote scorpion in the bolded text below because he summed up my feelings perfectly:

I think transgender people have a mental illness. Any man who wants to chop off his dick is seriously fucked up in the head, period. Political correctness can go fuck itself. It's laughable that this is taken seriously these days. I'm not denying that some people are born with feelings they are the wrong gender, but guess what? Some weird motherfuckers actually think they are animals (furries) and adopt animal sexual identities. What's next, are we going to have media campaigns that urge us to accept the furry sexual preference and bestiality? Will plastic surgeons begin "transitioning" these freaks so that they have a more animal-like appearance?


So, where does this end? If I feel I was born the wrong race should I be able to force mainstream society to accept me as that race? If I feel I was born the same species should I be able to force society to accept me as that species?

[debeguiled]

It is brutal that they always have to drag kids into this stuff.

Seriously, this is the first thing that has truly offended me on the internet in a while.

Just seeing those innocent faces and sweet questions in proximity to emotional and psychological dysfunction treated as normality is pretty hard to stomach.

[ilostabet]

(04-22-2018 04:57 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

It is brutal that they always have to drag kids into this stuff.

Seriously, this is the first thing that has truly offended me on the internet in a while.

Just seeing those innocent faces and sweet questions in proximity to emotional and psychological dysfunction treated as normality is pretty hard to stomach.

indeed.

all I have read on the subject suggests that the homosexual dysfunction (which includes trannies) is spread through child abuse and/or lack of proper sex roles in parents (masculine mother, feminine father).

the 'aids babies' phenomenon proves their obsession with reproduction, they want to mimic the normal result of sexual activity but since they cannot reproduce through their sexual behavior they must 'reproduce' in other ways - that is, by influencing children. if a child can be scandalized at an early age by exposure to sexual topics then it is much more likely that his psycho-sexual development is skewed towards deviant behavior. this is why all the propaganda from them is aimed at children.

there is a video of a guy going to a gay bar with a hidden camera and asking guys what their first 'experience' was, and the vast majority mention horrifically young 'experiences' - and what they also mention is doing what they have suffered to other kids: the victim becomes the aggressor. there's the fact that NAMBLA was a part of the original gay rights platform coalition and many gay rights leaders were found to be pedophiles (most notably Larry Brinkin and Terry Bean). not to mention the countless gay couples found to be sexually abusing their adoptive children (some of them having been hailed earlier as a beautiful example for society of a 'functional' gay family).

our society truly is sick - allowing these people anywhere near children is in itself a form of child abuse as far as I'm concerned.

[godfather dust]

I would like some elements of a theocracy implemented. There wouldn't be raids on gay houses but public displays or promotion of homo/transsexuality would lead to imprisonment. It would be a few months in solidarity confinement (so they can't just bang each other) and they can come out to read a Bible, pray, or see a priest (maybe be excorcised) to cure the homosexuality. Gays belong in the closet, it was better that way.

[YoungBlade]

Accurate af

[RIslander]

This thread is pretty gay.