[Screwston]

I always see guys on here saying girls like bad boys. Most don't. Gmanifesto has a quote somewhere that says they want "artificial, store bought bad boys" or some shit like that. Basically guys who get covered in tattoos, try to act hard and would be crying like a baby if they went to jail or prison. Guys who look talk the talk but will never walk the walk.

99% of girls want nothing to do with someone who sells drugs, is in and out of prison or can't hold down a regular job. Don't try to be a douchebag bad boy because you heard some guys say they like it.

[OkStudies]

What evidences the idea that 99% ( a rather arbitrary number) of girls don't like bad boys?

[Hooligan Harry]

(03-16-2013 11:41 PM)houston Wrote:  

I always see guys on here saying girls like bad boys. Most don't. Gmanifesto has a quote somewhere that says they want "artificial, store bought bad boys" or some shit like that. Basically guys who get covered in tattoos, try to act hard and would be crying like a baby if they went to jail or prison. Guys who look talk the talk but will never walk the walk.

99% of girls want nothing to do with someone who sells drugs, is in and out of prison or can't hold down a regular job. Don't try to be a douchebag bad boy because you heard some guys say they like it.

The average convict is getting far more tail than the average IT geek. Women are attracted to the traits that bad boys posses, its just the way it is. Dominance, indifference, masculinity, aggression, etc.

I have always believed though that women are more into "types". Its just part of the social pressure they feel and women are drawn to men that embody a specific type of guy that they feel adds some sort of social value or validation for them.

That could be a biker. A musician. A fat cat. A surfer.

This dude



will get more pussy than this dude

[kbell]

The images are identical.

[soup]

Women are attracted to men of power. A bad boy is just a man who has power in his own life regardless of what society says.

He also represents the wild animal side where she can escape the pressures of society and experience true passion.

The bad boy is passion embodied. He's the wolf.

[Screwston]

(03-17-2013 12:18 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  

What evidences the idea that 99% ( a rather arbitrary number) of girls don't like bad boys?

I'm sure you can google some stats on it or go to a MANOSPHERE blog and dig them up. Or go chill in the hood and trailer parkers and see what kind of girls they're pulling.

[Screwston]

The average convict is getting far more tail than the average IT geek. Women are attracted to the traits that bad boys posses, its just the way it is. Dominance, indifference, masculinity, aggression, etc.

I have always believed though that women are more into "types". Its just part of the social pressure they feel and women are drawn to men that embody a specific type of guy that they feel adds some sort of social value or validation for them.
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True the jail bird is only getting pussy from girls who either have a thing/fetish for him or ghetto hoes. He probably wont be able to get girls from different scenes and lifestyles. He's gonna scare off most girls when they find out about his lifestyle, past and prison tattoos.

Yeah, I think most women have a type they go for. Whether it's race, clothing style, etc. Some girls are easily persuaded to try something new and some are stubborn and stuck in their ways. I think most are closed minded and wont give you a chance if you don't even have the right "look".

[little wing]

(03-17-2013 12:21 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 11:41 PM)houston Wrote:  

I always see guys on here saying girls like bad boys. Most don't. Gmanifesto has a quote somewhere that says they want "artificial, store bought bad boys" or some shit like that. Basically guys who get covered in tattoos, try to act hard and would be crying like a baby if they went to jail or prison. Guys who look talk the talk but will never walk the walk.

99% of girls want nothing to do with someone who sells drugs, is in and out of prison or can't hold down a regular job. Don't try to be a douchebag bad boy because you heard some guys say they like it.

The average convict is getting far more tail than the average IT geek. Women are attracted to the traits that bad boys posses, its just the way it is. Dominance, indifference, masculinity, aggression, etc.

I have always believed though that women are more into "types". Its just part of the social pressure they feel and women are drawn to men that embody a specific type of guy that they feel adds some sort of social value or validation for them.

That could be a biker. A musician. A fat cat. A surfer.

This dude



will get more pussy than this dude

Could you PLEASE start using the enter key on your keyboard?

Girls definitely like bad boys. Look how Anthony Soprano got so much tail

[Avarence]

If the biker dude is under 6 feet tall then his game is already hopeless.

[storm]

[scorpion]

This is dumb. It's like saying, "Guys don't like good looking women. They are sick of women who are entitled, shallow, take forever to get ready, have outsized expectations and are bitchy. They'd much rather date ugly women who don't have these flaws."

It just so happens that more often than not, you have to take the good with the bad.

Sure, women don't logically want a man who will be locked in a cage for years, or who has a very real chance of killing them one day. But we all well know that women don't make their decisions on attraction logically, which is why they're willing to accept those traits because they often accompany the traits they DO want: swagger, social dominance, aggression, confidence, and other masculine traits that blue pill society represses in more law-abiding men.

[The Pirate]

Oh, so this is how trolling taste!!!

[All or Nothing]

(03-16-2013 11:41 PM)houston Wrote:  

someone who sells drugs

From what I've been hearing, a select few frat guys who have essentially become full fledged cocaine/ecstasy/bath salt dealers are getting A LOT of top pussy at my college. Whoever is slinging thousands of dollars of those three drugs of choice are getting a lot of top tier pussy swinging through their doors.

Also, I feel that their are two things "bad boys" have that most men do not, which make them attractive to women.
1. A distinct identity that they take pride in.
2. A solid pair of balls.

Edit: Also, most of them are at least 6', unlike most the dwarves out there.

[loki]

I will have to disagree here as women appear to indeed like bad boys and the reasons they do are just as simple, they get off on it (the power) and feel safe at the same time.

[Nonpareil]

When we say that 'women like bad boys', I always figured what we meant was 'women like bad boys (and also bad boys who have a few good traits)'.

As in, a guy with balls, who won't take any of their shit and is a little rough around the edges, but also a guy that somewhat has his shit together, a man.

(However yes, in terms of pussy-pull power it's easily ex-con >>>>> IT geek, and 'dealer game' is legit)

[Screwston]

(03-17-2013 02:11 AM)The Pirate Wrote:  

Oh, so this is how trolling taste!!!

What's trolling?

[Spike]

I'm with Houston on this one. Although not on the 99%.
I would say that the majority of women like the bad boy type without them being straight up thugs.

I'm ball parking 60% likes the bad boy type who isn't a real bad boy. 20% likes submissive dudes, 15% like regular plain average joes, including the IT geeks and only 5% likes to feel the real danger of having a serious bad guy type like criminals, bikers, drug pushers, guys with loose hands etc etc ( note: not saying bikers have loose hands. It's just another type of bad boy)

[starmaze]

This is bulhist. I have a friend who is archetype of bad boy. Muscle, shaved head, tatoos ( still good looking). Recently got of off jail after 8 years. He draws chicks like a magnet and bangs more in month than i in years.

He has a status and is one of top dogs in criminal community. he barely approachs, girls fight over for his atenttion. and he can be really rough at times, like puching girl and knock her unconscious if she piss him off too much.

ah, and he is only 5,9' .

[Ensam]

Girls are into bad boys the same way men are into strippers and porn stars. Some guys know better than to get involved and so do some women. But you can't deny there's an allure there that tempts the average man to strippers and the average woman to bad boys. As far as percentages go, there's no way to know that. But anecdotally bad boys seems to never suffer for lack of pussy the same way strippers never suffer for lack of dick.

[Kickb]

Never mind!

[Menace]

I suspect the bad boyism is proxy for toughness/survivability, so women are attracted (but don't know why) at least in part because they hope their children will have those traits.

[iknowexactly]

I think in effect it LOOKS LIKE women like bad boys, but that is actually an artifact of another, more universal trait in women:

Namely that 99% of the time or more WOMEN ARE INCAPABLE OF APPROACHING. This seems so completely true I'm surprised no one notices it.
Unless you are in the top 1-3% of guys, women will very, very rarely approach you. Maybe once a year in my experience as a sort of average guy when I was younger.

And then, even if they DO open you, they even more rarely will try to number close at the most. I think it's happened once in my life and many women have eyed me. They cannon make a move.

So yeah, they accept bad boys. Nice guys including me unless I'm in a good mood just don't open them.

They can only choose from guys who open them, they can't initiate, or don't want to which is the same thing. Bad boys are one of the few subgroups who actually will approach.
Once a bad boy or ANY boy gets a chick, womens' competitive instincts kick in and then he gets the follow-on effects of girls making it much easier to get successive lays.

[The Pumpkin King]

I disagree, I've seen first hand entirely too much evidence to the contrary. It comes down to the fact that bad boys, whether they're aware or not, have a majority of the traits that make an attractive male. While hypergamy has made traditional traits like working hard, and being a nice guy, a weak prospect because girls don't NEED that anymore. You also have to consider how people use the word. Many of my beta friends call me an asshole for simply approaching a female in a non-ideal setting that they consider self-serving, mostly because they have a feminine mindset. Having balls in general constitutes being a bad boy because you're going against the status-quo of feminist society in the modern world. As a white dude, who used to be embarrassed about living in the hood, I've played it up and actually bring girls over.

Now, I realize all of it actually turns them on. I used to think: "Shit, if she knows where I live, she'll never give up that snatch. Girls want a doctor, or a guy with a nice car." Instead, I bring up my past nonchalantly, rather then trying to be like "Hey, check out how hood I am." and I catch them bragging about it to their friends. Being a legitimate bad boy automatically gives you those traits, it doesn't necessarily mean you have game though. I can't think of anytime pre-red pill that a girl I wanted wasn't with a bad boy, or complaining that she can't keep him. I occasionally see them with traditional alphas, but they always leave because they get bored, and the dude follows the perfect script into beta-ization. Sure, there are outliers looking for traditional dudes, but most of those dudes are blind to the red pill for obvious reasons and end up losing. I agree with the sentiment that "store made bad boys" can work, but girls will shit-test you for it, they always call my bluff, until they meet my scary black friends.

For me personally I always had this struggle, mainly since I'm short and have nerdy hobbies. I always saw the hot chick with an intellectual douchebag, who never gave two shits about her. Now I rock a similar attitude, wear my upbringing with pride, and still have legitimate goals I'm heading towards. I know plenty of ghetto ass dudes who can bring 7's and up to their crib, and have zero goals. It's all about growing up in an environment that constantly says fuck you, and you're forced to learn game.

[Veloce]

I think there's a sliding scale here and everyone's going to have different life experiences with this.

Me personally? I agree with houston. The worst guys I've known, the one's who have been to jail, arrested, been booked for assault, possession, all that shit...yes, they get laid, but not with chicks I'd ever want to bang.

Like all else, the answer lies in balance. Take a guy with criminal tendencies, give him some smarts and resources, and now you're talking about a pussy magnet. Take a "bad boy", and reel in those tendencies just slightly, a guy that knows how to use them to his advantage, and that's what girls go for. Most girls don't want to get involved with a guy that takes the self destructiveness too far.

[Roosh]

8/10 troll