[nek]

I know this topic has been covered here before but you never know who's checking things out for the first time. That being said, going out solo, something I've just started doing, is fucking awesome. It's REALLY hard to find good wingmen, and until you do, solo is the way to go. Most 'friends' you go out with will hold you back, directly or indirectly. In fact, good wingmen are typically other guys going out solo as well so at the right venues (chill bars) you can meet good wingmen at these spots, along with good women (go figure). So if you're new to the game, I strongly recommend that you start going out solo. It's liberating. Most people in life, including friends, will be a drain vs. an asset in your life. This will carry over to your dating life as well. And for every girl that thinks it's weird you're by yourself, there's 10 that are actually impressed by this. Give it a try.

[thegmanifesto]

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Just playing.

Good for you. You are right, I have been saying for years that Solo is the way for The Playboy.

[guerrilla]

I only go out solo out of necessity. My friends help me stay in a positive, outgoing mood from beginning to end. But more importantly, most swoopable girls are in packs of 2-4, and isolation presents some huge obstacles when solo. That being said, I go out solo more often than with friends but I much prefer to be with friends.

[BurnFirst]

I can go out solo and there are usually a few people I know there anyway. Being friendly helps.

[Kickb]

YEAH REAL NIGGAS! ALL DAY!

JUST ME. BY MYSELF.

ALL DAY.

ON THE BLOCK.

HOLDING IT DOWN!

BY MYSELF!

[Citlalli]

Yes. I also have no problem starting the night out with friends and then leaving them when I feel like I've absorbed enough of their energy aka hit the ground running

[Doggy Style]

I used to be terrified to go out alone without a wing. After I moved away from Chicago back to Indiana, I realized it was either start a lair in the middle of the butt-fucking nowhere (I run Project Chicago, the local lair here, and wasn't about to try to start that shit up in the middle of a corn field), or get over my fear of going out alone.

Now I *way* prefer to go out alone if I really want to pick someone up. More often than not, wingmen either blow your sets up, steal your targets, or -- best case scenario -- leave you alone to isolate the girl, which means they did nothing you couldn't do on your own.

Also, it depends a bit on the circumstances, but being a relatively well-dressed guy out at the bar obviously alone can send a message to the girls who are there looking to be picked up. Community dogma says they will think "Oh, he's alone, he doesn't have any friends, he's a loser." But sometimes they think, "This guy is here to pick up a girl. I want to be picked up. Problem Solved." That's especially true if you're from out of town (hence, there's a good reason you're out alone instead of with friends.)

[Openbar]

(02-18-2013 04:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Solo is the way for The Playboy.

Quite right. A good part of solo game is pointing out to a target how ball-less the others approaching her are without their wing-boys: "Go ahead, sweetheart, get them to buy you a drink. I bet you the next round that you can't. Come on back when you're tired of kiddy-time."

Being situationally aware, a must for the solo player, I'll even point out for her the wing-posse hiding in the background: "If you're really good, you'll get one for me, too."

And, then, I do not watch. I seriously am unfazed by whatever happens. I may be sending out a second one on the same mission. Even at the same wing-posse. Especially if the girl can't keep a decent grip on conversation.

And I won't renege on that round when/if she comes back successful. She was obedient and earned the prize by accepting the challenge. She's back with me, so we both know she's done with the primary selection part. The next part requires me to solidly lead, to validate what she saw as maturity and came back for.

Granted, this is older guy or status game, and requires consistency in manner and a most-interesting-guy-in-the-room followup vibe. To start it off, though, almost no vibe is needed, just the challenge -- so it works, too, to make a exit when you might want to run into this girl another time.

I even used to use this technique in afterwork bars on first dates, warming my date up after work, and letting her make the necessary mental transitions, before our seating time at a nearby restaurant. All on the wing-posse tab. Thanks, guys.

[Kilgo]

Some friends of mine can't imagine the idea of going out alone. For me Lone Wolf mode is a natural thing, move to enough new cities as I've had to for work and you pretty much have to do that some, but it has worked for me many times. If you find approaches tough this helps to get you to talk to others as opposed to hanging your friends "scouting" or whatever. Helps to cut down on the excuse factor.

[Belize King]

Only thing that I hate about running solo is if shit pops off you have no back up. In Brownsville I have no problens. There are no real hood clubs or bars there plus everybody is there to have a good time. Corpus Christi. Some dudes some to go to the clubs just to meanmug other dudes. One way its cool cause you dont have to back up your boy if he gets into shit. Then its not if some asshole is trying to get ratchet on you at the spot. Overall I rather take my chances running solo than have to deal with one of my buddies shit.

[sicklove]

Solo is GREAT at art shows or wine tastings. Anytime women are from out of town, they're looking to fuck, fast.

[Lazarus]

For you experienced lone wolves, what's the best way to get into the right mindset, overcoming the fear and boredom etc, to roll solo?

Is it better done on weekdays or weekends, really over packed clubs or laid back venues?

Would I be better scouting out places where I am a cut above the rest in terms of style?

How do you open a group by yourself? And how do you deal with obstacles such as annoying friend without a wing to distract her? Do you find opening solo girls (if you can find one) makes for an easier lay?

[liberman]

Its all just experience really. The first 10-20 times you go out solo your really self-conscious and worried about how you appear to others, this affects your game badly. However one you get-over this feeling the positives of going out solo start to come through (the big one for me is personal freedom). It can be done anywhere in a packed club or chilled bar just as long as you are comfortable and confident in the area. Im 21 and have been going out solo for almost a year and all the things that hold you back when you first start going solo are not a problem anymore such as guys and girls asking where your friends are or getting in the right state or opening a group (I just open the one I want to talk to, she usually asks for my name and then introduces her friends).
You will find that you grow as a player very quickly when you go solo because everything is a result of what YOU do not your friends and you can quickly identify your weaknesses for the same reason.

[RandalGraves]

I roll solo about half the times I go out to "party"/hunt for pussy. While the ability to operate independently comes in handy, sometimes when it's slow at the bar it can really get boring. Outside of weekends after 10pm, there's just not enough volume to work with. I usually need a friend to chat and joke around with to hover between approaches.

[The Pirate]

I enjoy going out solo because it basically leave everything in your own hands. The idea of looking at your evening as a "blank sheet" where you decide what to paint on it is the core of my excitement for going out. Nothing beats zipping your drink before you go out, listen to your favorite music while watching muted UFC on TV. Enter like a king, never take the smirk off your face and have fun in all you do. Forget about the one liners and prepared starters, focus on your energy and ask questions, listen and connect. Neglect idiots. Life is too short.

[Hotwheels]

Rolling solo is much better when you have the place on lockdown.

A lone guy rolling in getting glad handed by the staff will get the broads curiosity up.

[Lazarus]

I'm thinking or rolling solo on weekdays into more indie places with live music. Not exactly my scene but I think the band will give me something to focus on and start a convo about ("Do you know the band?"). Also, since I am a writer and spend my weekdays lugging around my laptop that's somewhere I can take my computer without worrying about damaging it (and not having to cross the city to drop it at home) and I can maybe use it to DHV or as a prop (as a segue into the fact that I am a 'writer' - i.e. unpublished wannabe).

Thoughts?

Also, this means encountering a lot of hippies and hipster. What sort of game do hippie and hipster girls respond to?

[nek]

(03-02-2013 12:56 AM)Lazarus Wrote:  

I'm thinking or rolling solo on weekdays into more indie places with live music. Not exactly my scene but I think the band will give me something to focus on and start a convo about ("Do you know the band?"). Also, since I am a writer and spend my weekdays lugging around my laptop that's somewhere I can take my computer without worrying about damaging it (and not having to cross the city to drop it at home) and I can maybe use it to DHV or as a prop (as a segue into the fact that I am a 'writer' - i.e. unpublished wannabe).

Thoughts?

Also, this means encountering a lot of hippies and hipster. What sort of game do hippie and hipster girls respond to?

Whether they admit it or not, game is universal. Hipsters or not, they're still women. The only difference is, your game needs to vary by degree, not 'type'. Hope this helps.

[The Fantasist]

Solo for day game every time.

There is nothing that shows dominance and confidence to a woman more then a lone wolf walking up to her and seducing her without giving a flying fuck about what she or anyone else in that environment thinks. Doctor's surgeries,government offices,the street,a bar when she is with friends,a restaurant when she is having a meal,the super market,it doesn't matter. I will see a girl I like and whilst my internal dialogue is starting the usual 'she is out of your league,you will never get her' bullshit I am already walking towards her with the usual slight rise in my heart beat. It does not by any means always work to get the girl but it almost always intrigues them. They might not want to fuck you but you are certainly showing the qualities she wants a man to possess. You know that that night whilst she is being banged in the missionary by her boyfriend she met at work she will remember the well presented and charming guy who stopped her on the street and made his intentions clear in a polite manner but no nonsense manner.

The other reason I go solo in day game is because of the lack of friends who are confident doing it sober. I know some very very good players who outperform me in night venues,blow me out of the water in clubs,I readily admit that. However not one of those guys has the balls to stop a random stranger at midday whilst sober on the street and have the balls to escalate hard enough to be fucking her in her university dormitory that evening. I did it on Thursday.

Approaching lone in the daytime whilst sober makes you stand out from 99% of the other beta guys who need the crutch of alcohol to approach.