[OSL]

Lately I have been running a lot of direct game on expat girls in Beijing. My main demographic has been Euro and Russian/Ukrainian girls, as I am immediately turned off by an American accent.

It has been very effective. They respond very well and, if their friends are in earshot, will either leave me alone with her or physically move her into a position where it is easier for her to talk to me.

I generally am not good at games of subtlety and like to handle things directly to save time and not deal with any nonsense.

I'd like to know if anyone else generally games direct and if they can relate with this. Based on my experience, I have not seen any cockblocking when I am doing direct. The girl's friends will actively support me hitting on her while male cockblocks will immediately flee the scene.

[hydrogonian]

(05-20-2010 03:42 PM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

Lately I have been running a lot of direct game on expat girls in Beijing. My main demographic has been Euro and Russian/Ukrainian girls, as I am immediately turned off by an American accent.

It has been very effective. They respond very well and, if their friends are in earshot, will either leave me alone with her or physically move her into a position where it is easier for her to talk to me.

I generally am not good at games of subtlety and like to handle things directly to save time and not deal with any nonsense.

I'd like to know if anyone else generally games direct and if they can relate with this. Based on my experience, I have not seen any cockblocking when I am doing direct. The girl's friends will actively support me hitting on her while male cockblocks will immediately flee the scene.

Haha...your going to get incredible results with this in Asia. Like mindlblowing results that will make you feel, literally, like the world of asian women is yours for the taking. Thats my prediction. And with some practice, your going to get bolder, more confident, and get even better results than you are seeing now. It will be a positive feedback cycle, and you'll be approaching ten women a day, or more, before you know it, and not giving a shit about rejection. Then your results will go up even more.

All women crave dominant direct behavior from men, done well, but asian women rarely get to experience it, and when they do its usually not done in an attractive way. In my experience, beta behavior is much more prevalent amongst native asian men than it is in the west. For some reason, it seems to be a product of the culture. But I could be off on this, as I dont speak an Asian language to really be able to know what I'm talking about.

Women in the west are more used to direct game, and while they respond to direct game very well because they still dont get it enough, they have a certain amount of immunity to it, especially when a guy isn't doing it exactly right. For those of you who have been to South America, those cultures are an example of the other end of the direct / dominant spectrum, where if your going direct, it better be very on-point to really be effective beyond any other approach. Unless your 'gaming' hookers.

Asian women won't reject such directness, because its just so exciting and new for them. Its what they want, deep down. If you get too direct, it may shock them because they aren't used to it, but your going to stimulate a large amount of attraction in them. If you get a weird reaction, just stick around, and I predict that most chinese women who you approach direct will come around in a short period of time. Like you stated, it may not even take that long. The only thing that I can think of that may scare a few off is being 'asshole / disrespectful direct' and even that would probably net you more than a few, its just not necessary or my style.

I miss Asia.

[beebopaloo]

I LOVE DIRECT GAME!

And I think you are definitely on to the right path. I am just too lazy to not be direct.

But as a matter of fact I toned it down a lot while I was in Asia. Some places just seem better for it than others. Japan is a direct-paradise! While in Thailand and Hong Kong I found the girls would get kinda scared if I got very physical too quickly, and I'd instead opt for indirect openers. In the Philippines you don't need any game at all, as the girls are the ones being direct, hehe.

Looking forward to hear some stories from China. And especially about the local chicks!

[OSL]

Actually I have been going direct on expat girls, not Asian girls. The Asian girls I've hooked up with have generally just sort of fallen into my lap without much effort due to social proof. It doesn't hurt that I can dance either.

I went direct on a German girl last night and legitimately had to walk away from her to meet up with my firends. She grabbed my arm and sat me down next to her. Phone number, makeout, but her boyfriend was upset about that so I dunno if she'll pick up when I call her.

An Asian girl would never be that aggressive (physically sitting me down next to her) although I immediately see the merits of direct game regardless of the race.

All women want a no-nonsense, ballsy approach like that. It also feels liberating for me as a man to do it and I save a lot of time.

[Kona]

Direct is the only way to go when you're gaming vacationers. Think about it, they're leaving town soon.

Regarding Asian girls and direct game, try it out. The results will really surprise you.

Aloha!

[Giovonny]

Lately I've learned to soften my vibe in Direct Game. I used to be to eager, to energetic, to excited, to hyper, and just coming across as to happy and maybe trying to hard. I was just trying to approach and get better/get results. But It was obvious that I was just trying "to pick up girls". My tone and my frame just didn't fit with the girls as we were sitting on the bus/subway, walking across campus, shoping in the mall, passing on the street, etc.

Now I am much more "quiet" and soft spoken, I have lowered my voice alot and don't keep so much eye contact. This has helped me alot. I think the lower more mellow tone of voice is more welcoming to girls. At least in Direct Day Game.

[HD668B]

Gio I had the exact same problem, for me it was almost the "dancing monkey" or whatever they call it. I think I was just not enough confident to let my inner sexuality do the talking , and I was hiding this by being funny or overthetop expressive. Now even if I do the exact same conversation, I take slowly and never smile. I dunno about no eye contact though, I always do as much as I can, on my target and on other girls passing by too.

[hydrogonian]

(05-21-2010 04:07 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

...It also feels liberating for me as a man to do it ....

Pretty much the best reason for it...It just feels so RIGHT...and as you said, liberating. Its literally feels like a weight has been taken off of your back. No more hidden intentions, scheming, or caring about how you can convince her to sleep with you.

Once I started going direct, I just knew that it was the best way to game. With every other approach, unless there is some compelling social restriction not to go direct, I feel like my power as a man is greatly diminished. If a guy feels dis-empowered, women will perceive him like that. That feedback loop is the force behind why so many men feel nervous when interacting with women. When a man feels empowered, a woman will perceive him with all of that masculine power. This explains the mechanism and solution to a large part of inner game. When going indirect, trying to have good inner game is like trying to power a locomotive with a battery. The power, and the feedback from women, just isnt there to sustain it. Coming from the other end of the feedback loop, there is zero reason why a guy with perfect inner game would need to go indirect.

Thats why a man going indirect can never compete with a man going direct. There is just such a noticeable power, confidence and inner-game difference between the two. The ONLY women that indirect works better on is very young girls who are still nervous in their sexuality, and are legitimately threatened by powerful men.

[hydrogonian]

More evidence for Direct Game - I'd say this guy is about as credible as it gets, and his advice is pretty much the core of what you need when going direct:

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-sexu...ract-women

[HD668B]

Hydro is this sarcasm?
I dont advocate directgame while wearing a brown blazer...

[hydrogonian]

(06-03-2010 05:35 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

Hydro is this sarcasm?
I dont advocate directgame while wearing a brown blazer...

haha...no. By credibility I meant his experience, as a producer of, and in watching thousands of hours of the USA TV dating show "Blind Date". Not necessarily his credibility as a player. He knows what works from watching A LOT of first dates...