[Giovonny]

(02-05-2013 04:01 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

But usually you just have the girls number and she doesn't have yours. At least that's the way I thought was correct?

I like to EXCHANGE numbers. I like to give her to option to call first. Young girls often will call first. They haven't learned how to play "hard to get". If she calls first, I know I got her!

[kenny_powers]

(02-05-2013 04:13 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 04:01 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

But usually you just have the girls number and she doesn't have yours. At least that's the way I thought was correct?

I like to EXCHANGE numbers. I like to give her to option to call first. Young girls often will call first. They haven't learned how to play "hard to get". If she calls first, I know I got her!

Exactly Gio. I never take a number.

Sample dialogue:

"What's your number I need to text you my info"

If she has her phone out grab it and say

"I'll call you so we have each others info" call your phone from her phone

We are not number collectors, we are men that don;t fuck around.

[bojangles]

(02-05-2013 04:13 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 04:01 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

But usually you just have the girls number and she doesn't have yours. At least that's the way I thought was correct?

I like to EXCHANGE numbers. I like to give her to option to call first. Young girls often will call first. They haven't learned how to play "hard to get". If she calls first, I know I got her!

Yep, I always use, "you seem like a cool(replace with whatever you feel is best) girl, what's your number?"
get the number, call her, talk for a minute or two more then eject.

[His Imperial Majesty]

At the moment I’m based in the financial district of London and I do most of my day gaming during lunch hours and breaks. I’ve come love day time approaching and often just do it for the pure fun of it.

Although London is, in my opinion, one of the toughest night gigs on the planet, using tight DG I can usually manage a good hand full of promising numbers by the end of the average week.

And before you all start posting stuff about whether these are quality numbers or not, let me just say this;

If a chick hasn’t given me at least six out of the seven IOIs listed below, I wouldn’t bother accepting her number let alone asking for it!

1) Given the interaction her full and undivided attention .
2) Made an effort to contribute to the conversation.
3) Held a good amount of eye contact.
4) Laughed at least a couple of times.
5) Asked at least 2 or 3 personal questions.
6) Responded favourably to any and all keno.
7) Either asked for my number or given her number without hesitation.

Believe me when I say that the overwhelming amount of numbers I gather, are as a result of genuine attraction and interest created during pick up.

My biggest fault is that I probably don’t take game as seriously as I could. I have to admit that sometimes, due to either being too busy or too lazy, I might not contact a chick for days or even weeks after the first approach.

By then I’ve usually got a pile of numbers with only a vague recollection of the pick up details. It’s at this point that I usually just send them all the same text.

I know this is bad Game and I’m working on it but I have noticed something interesting.

I’ve noticed that some opening texts get way more responses than others.

[MrXY]

(02-06-2013 01:07 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  

I know this is bad Game and I’m working on it but I have noticed something interesting.

I’ve noticed that some opening texts get way more responses than others.

Ok, such as ?

[Giovonny]

(02-06-2013 01:07 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  

I’ve noticed that some opening texts get way more responses than others.

I've noticed the same thing. Sometimes, my boring, "hey nice to meet you" text doesn't get any response. When this happens I try more "emotionally stimulating" texts. I try to get a reaction out of the girl, even if she gets mad. Getting mad is better then having no reaction at all. I want to stir up her emotions.

When I get the sense that my texts are too plain, I start sending stuff like this...

"hey ali, its gio, i can't believe you haven't called me for homemade mexican food, are you crazy!?! what kind of garbage have you been eating"?

"hey, what are you doing thursdays night? Me, you, a little wine, a little weed, chinese food, and a few episodes of mad men"?

(we talked about doing this when we met)

Also, send cool picture messages, they are a little unique.

You might try being more edgy and extreme with your first text. Sometimes, girls respond better to crazy shit then they do to plain, "normal" type stuff. Push the limits, see what happens. I suspect your first text is too boring.

I like causing extreme reactions . It's fun and girls respond.

Also, waiting a few weeks is usually not a good idea.

What kind of texts do think work the best. Sometimes, I keep it simple, sometimes, I get a little crazy, it all depends how the girls are responding. Honestly, the crazier I am, the better I do with girls.

[Jaylow]

My first/2nd txt is always the longest then I try to set something up and give way less attention. The first/2nd txt almost always have something to do with a joke I told from a previous conversation.

A girl told me she loves cats, I said she was a crazy cat lady in the making. My first txt "hey I rescued 3 cats from trees today, how I roll. They need a home."

A girl asks me how I get down from the mountain after I climb it and I make a joke about helicopters. First txt is that I am going to pick her up in my helicopter.

I make a joke about being a jiggalo and selling my body to the night, first txt is "heard you were looking for a jiggalo, I take the money up front"

Sometimes being really direct helps a lot, like 1 girl didn't respond to me all day when she told me the day before she didn't have any plans and after 5 hours of no response I sent "what, your ignoring me now?" and she responded in under a minute. Fucked her that night.

[bojangles]

(02-06-2013 01:07 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  

At the moment I’m based in the financial district of London and I do most of my day gaming during lunch hours and breaks. I’ve come love day time approaching and often just do it for the pure fun of it.

Although London is, in my opinion, one of the toughest night gigs on the planet, using tight DG I can usually manage a good hand full of promising numbers by the end of the average week.

And before you all start posting stuff about whether these are quality numbers or not, let me just say this;

If a chick hasn’t given me at least six out of the seven IOIs listed below, I wouldn’t bother accepting her number let alone asking for it!

1) Given the interaction her full and undivided attention .
2) Made an effort to contribute to the conversation.
3) Held a good amount of eye contact.
4) Laughed at least a couple of times.
5) Asked at least 2 or 3 personal questions.
6) Responded favourably to any and all keno.
7) Either asked for my number or given her number without hesitation.

Believe me when I say that the overwhelming amount of numbers I gather, are as a result of genuine attraction and interest created during pick up.

My biggest fault is that I probably don’t take game as seriously as I could. I have to admit that sometimes, due to either being too busy or too lazy, I might not contact a chick for days or even weeks after the first approach.

By then I’ve usually got a pile of numbers with only a vague recollection of the pick up details. It’s at this point that I usually just send them all the same text.

I know this is bad Game and I’m working on it but I have noticed something interesting.

I’ve noticed that some opening texts get way more responses than others.

where are you working lad? me and MattC both work in Financial town

[His Imperial Majesty]

(02-07-2013 07:56 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

where are you working lad? me and MattC both work in Financial town

Hey Bo, pleased to make your acquaintance. I’m near Liverpool St although I’ve been in Canary Wharf for a week.





So I’ve approach her outside her office while she’s having a smoke. My vibe is that of a casual, light hearted, sociable, sexy guy, who at some point during the conversation realises how interesting/fun she is. After some subtle DHV and light eye fucking, her IOIs start pouring in, attraction is built and we exchange numbers.

Some days or sometimes weeks later. Oh did I mention how busy I am. Anyway, sometime later when I’m bored/stood up/horny, I scroll down my phone and see her number along with 4 or five others.

In the past I would just text them all something like… Hey Delilah, its Samson, how about a hair cut! Or Hey Eve, it’s Adam, got any apples?

Only joking, Bible texting is a sin.

It would probably be more like… Hey you its me (insert names) Are you still (insert joke) How about we hook up for (insert activity)?

For the ones that were really into me this is normally fine but then almost anything would be. Nonetheless they will all be rewarded with the H.I.M. experience (insert lucky bitches).

Conversely, the ones that have just got back with their exs or found another cock to spin on or just got wrapped up in one of the thousand pointless dramas that female flesh is heir to, chances are no text would have work.

Alas, these girls are going to miss out on the H.I.M experience (insert unlucky bitches)

I have no problem with these girls as I just see its as pay back for me being so lazy. I mean busy.

However its has also become quite common for a girl to give her number to a guy she is attracted to even though she is, to all intents and purposes, unavailable. The attention junky in her, can’t seem to resist the validation hit of an attractive guy wanting her, even though she had no intention of replying to any text.

The problem with the “hi you, its me, lets fuck” text, is that she gets her fix without having to invest. And as any self-respecting drug dealer/PUA will tell you, that is always bad for business.

There are also some (and these are the ones of interest here) that were attracted during the pick up but now just need a little extra push in the right direction.

So what is the optimum text opener in this situation?

In my opinion, and it is just an opinion, I think that the ideal opening text would contain these four prerequisites.

a) It should make it as easy as possible for her to reengage.
b) It must reignite the interest and vibe of the initial pull.
c) It should contain the minimum of investment/validation.
d) It should encourage her to work/invest.

With a some trial and error I have found the following to be the most effective opening text strategy for me.

First I just send them a simple sunset photo.

The girls that are strongly into me will normally text me back within the hour something like: “that’s nice where is it”?

From there its normally easy to arrange a meet.

After a couple of hours I’ll send all the none responders this text:

So here’s the question. When you looked at this photo, did you see:

a) A Sunset?
b) A Sunrise?

Girls love games and almost always text back, even if its just “a” or “b”.

No matter, contact is established and I‘m making her work.

My next move is to send all the ones that said “a” this text:

“Cool, people that see a sunset are usually romantic. Would you say that you are romantic“?

Girls seem to find this stuff very difficult to resist and will always answer in the affirmative. Often giving reasons why they think they are romantic.

Before they know it, they are validating themselves with me in the position of judge and jury.

As for the ones that answer “b” I just send them this text:

“Cool, people that see a sunrise are normally very optimistic. Would you say that you are optimistic“?

Of course this text strategy may be working for me just because it chimes with my day game vibe.

I’d be interested to know if it works for anyone else.

[Jaylow]

That is pretty fucking awesome HIM. I am going to copy it

Here is a question though, would it work better if you worded options a) b) somewhat negatively and open ended instead?

If they choose sunrise say "people who say sunrise usually aren't very romantic but a little optimistic" and girls who choose sunset "people who say sunset usually aren't very optimistic but sometimes romantic".

[His Imperial Majesty]

I hear what you’re saying Jaylow but I real like to keep it as simple as possible for her to reconnect.

Also being “romantic” or “optimistic” are not exactly mutually exclusive.

Day-game pulls are a lot more subtle than night-game pulls so I like to keep it all as positive as possible.

Just in way of contrast, here’s the opening text I sent the other day to a polish chick I night-game number closed.

Hey Polska, I’ll be having drinks with some friends at the “London Cocktail Club” tonight. Come along if you’re in town. Oh, they don’t normally let Polish girls in (obviously), so you might have to tell the guys on the door that you’re French or something.

This text chimed with my cocky funny night game vibe and got a very positive response.

Roosh’s advice... treat girls you approach in the day like cats and girls you approach at night like dogs, is spot on.

[Flying20pCoins]

Got to love a bit of daygame in London, I work just off Oxford street so spend my lunch hour approaching..

I usually do direct daygame and my first text is always ' Cool to meet you (name), are you always that friendly to people you meet on the street or was it just me..? ' I've found I get the most number of hits back with this one..