[AlbertoDelMuerto]

I just got back from the States yesterday. It was great to be back in LA. However, I am back in London now and I had a really shitty night out today. Many of you already know that I've been doing daygame in London for the last 3 or so months, and I managed to bang 2 chicks after approaching 200+, so it's very hard work. So let's discuss night game.

I went to Walkabout Temple, and they had a student night there, but unfortunately it was all King's College students, and since I do not go there, I kinda looked like the loner guy. Anyways, I approached 8 chcicks and only 2 of them, I kinda had a conversation with. I wasn't looking for numbers, but I got a number anyway. I want to get laid when I am doing night game, I don't want any numbers.

Set 1: Chick in Red
Me: Hi, How're you
Her: I am OK, you?
Me: I am great
Me: I am trying to guess where you're from, you look East European
Her: Maybe
Me: Lithuania?
Her: No, actually I'm from here
Me: Really? You're 100% Britisih
Her: Yes, and where you from?
Me: I'm from the States
Her: I guessed so
Me: So do you go here?
Her: yea I go to KCL
Me: What are you studying?
Her: Art History
Me: SOunds interesting
Her: No, it's boring
ME: Then why did you take it?
Her: I did not have any other choices
(Her boyfriend/fwb comes in and hugs her and then she kisses him)
Her: This is Patrick
Me: Nice to meet you (I shake hand and I know it's time to exit)
(I see the chick not engaging me, so I cut her off and start talking to the shot girl)

Set 2:
Me: (I grab the chick's arm, and pull her near me) Hey, What's your name?
Her: Melinda
Me: YOu look like you're having a lot of fun
Her: Sure I am, but I gotta go meet my friends

Set 3: Kinda like the same as with #2

Set 4: Skimpily clad slut
Me: (I pull her near me) I think you're sexy as hell
Her: Really? I'll be right back
(She goes back to her friends and takes a photo with them, apparently she was single, she came in with 4 friends and left with them)

Set 5:
Me: I don't think we've met before
Her: I don't believe so
Me: I'm Alberto
Her: Stacy
Me: What a beautiful name
(Her girlfriends walk in and take her away)

Set 6
Me: i gotta ask you a favor
HEr: Ok
Me: I want you to sign me into the King's COllege SU
Her: What's in it for me
ME: Nothing
Her: No way
Me: How about a pound?
HEr: How about a drink?
Me: Really?
Her: Yea
Me: How do I know you'll keep your word
Her: I will
(So I get her a Vodka red bull, and we exchange numbers, and agree to meet up outside King's College next week) This honestly doesn't count as shit. But, I need to get in King's College, and this is the only way, as I don't have any friends there.

Set#7:
Me: (I spank her, and when she looks I smile) Come here sweetie
Her: (Avoids)

Set#8:
Me: Come party with me baby
Her: (Smiles) Imagine me peeing (she is on her way to the bathroom)
Me: No imaginations, just reality
Her: But I really gotta pee
ME: Well come find me when you're done

After this I basically stop approaching, and decide to look for IOIs. Unfortunately, I got none. This is very weird, there are usually some girls who will give me eye contact, but unfortunately that was not the case. This club was full of British women, and I've had little success with them.

On a side-note, I got a new haircut, I look more like a UFC fighter now. Bought something to get rid of the acne. However, the lack of success here is making me mad. Don't tell me to read. I've read a lot and I have no time to read anymore, as I recently started working.

Just point out my flaws, and tell me how I can actually make the chicks want to talk me for longer periods.

[bojangles]

(01-23-2013 10:34 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

I just got back from the States yesterday. It was great to be back in LA. However, I am back in London now and I had a really shitty night out today. Many of you already know that I've been doing daygame in London for the last 3 or so months, and I managed to bang 2 chicks after approaching 200+, so it's very hard work. So let's discuss night game.

I went to Walkabout Temple, and they had a student night there, but unfortunately it was all King's College students, and since I do not go there, I kinda looked like the loner guy. Anyways, I approached 8 chcicks and only 2 of them, I kinda had a conversation with. I wasn't looking for numbers, but I got a number anyway. I want to get laid when I am doing night game, I don't want any numbers.

Set 1: Chick in Red
Me: Hi, How're you Shit opener
Her: I am OK, you?
Me: I am great
Me: I am trying to guess where you're from, you look East European
Her: Maybe
Me: Lithuania?
Her: No, actually I'm from here
Me: Really? You're 100% Britisih
Her: Yes, and where you from?
Me: I'm from the States why didnt you expand?
Her: I guessed so
Me: So do you go here? shit question
Her: yea I go to KCL
Me: What are you studying? shit dead end question, reframe it
Her: Art History
Me: SOunds interesting pandering behaviour, I use - damn that sounds verrrrrrrry boooooooring, you know what you should do? cooking (with a smirk)
Her: No, it's boring
ME: Then why did you take it? better question by asking why
Her: I did not have any other choices
(Her boyfriend/fwb comes in and hugs her and then she kisses him)
Her: This is Patrick
Me: Nice to meet you (I shake hand and I know it's time to exit)
(I see the chick not engaging me, so I cut her off and start talking to the shot girl) you had no reason to leave, engage the guy, you mentioned you stood out as a loner, you could have used this first set as a pawn

Set 2:
Me: (I grab the chick's arm, and pull her near me) Hey, What's your name? shit opener but you were very direct good shit
Her: Melinda
Me: YOu look like you're having a lot of fun you need to learn how to stack, the name is a hook point for you to talk
Her: Sure I am, but I gotta go meet my friends

Set 3: Kinda like the same as with #2

Set 4: Skimpily clad slut
Me: (I pull her near me) I think you're sexy as hell what was she supposed to say?
Her: Really? I'll be right back
(She goes back to her friends and takes a photo with them, apparently she was single, she came in with 4 friends and left with them)

Set 5:
Me: I don't think we've met before
Her: I don't believe so
Me: I'm Alberto
Her: Stacy
Me: What a beautiful name
(Her girlfriends walk in and take her away)

Set 6
Me: i gotta ask you a favor
HEr: Ok
Me: I want you to sign me into the King's COllege SU
Her: What's in it for me
ME: Nothing
Her: No way
Me: How about a pound?
HEr: How about a drink?
Me: Really?
Her: Yea
Me: How do I know you'll keep your word
Her: I will
(So I get her a Vodka red bull, and we exchange numbers, and agree to meet up outside King's College next week) This honestly doesn't count as shit. But, I need to get in King's College, and this is the only way, as I don't have any friends there.

Set#7:
Me: (I spank her, and when she looks I smile) Come here sweetie
Her: (Avoids)

Set#8:
Me: Come party with me baby
Her: (Smiles) Imagine me peeing (she is on her way to the bathroom)
Me: No imaginations, just reality
Her: But I really gotta pee
ME: Well come find me when you're done

After this I basically stop approaching, and decide to look for IOIs. Unfortunately, I got none. This is very weird, there are usually some girls who will give me eye contact, but unfortunately that was not the case. This club was full of British women, and I've had little success with them.

On a side-note, I got a new haircut, I look more like a UFC fighter now. Bought something to get rid of the acne. However, the lack of success here is making me mad. Don't tell me to read. I've read a lot and I have no time to read anymore, as I recently started working.

Just point out my flaws, and tell me how I can actually make the chicks want to talk me for longer periods.

Right I added some bits above, but I have no idea what to say to your last 4 sets....[/b]

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

Great post dude!

[Nudge]

It seems your either coming off as boring (hey whats your name, hey how are you) or a sleaze (spanking, come party with me baby). Gotta be more playful, interesting and fun.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(01-24-2013 08:09 AM)Nudge Wrote:  

It seems your either coming off as boring (hey whats your name, hey how are you) or a sleaze (spanking, come party with me baby). Gotta be more playful, interesting and fun.

I just don't wanna do routines anymore. Even though, I got better results with memorized routines and stories, I never tried them in London. As of now, I only remember the ESP routine, but I do have my own stories to tell. I might go out tonight and I will try using the ESP routine.

[reino341]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65qBE-5fWg

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(01-25-2013 10:54 AM)reino341 Wrote:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65qBE-5fWg

Really good stuff! Everything by Julien is gold.

[Nudge]

Who said anything about routines?

[bojangles]

(01-25-2013 11:32 AM)Nudge Wrote:  

Who said anything about routines?

must have been you, I can't recall saying anything

[XXL]

In my personal opinion you could bring more fun in the interactions. From what I read above you talk very logically like "what you do/where you from/what you study/etc". But people go out to relax, let loose and have fun.

As for critique, who the fuck I am to know that's right or wrong thing to say. Instead I'll just add my type of responses in brackets to give you little bits of my talking shit it's all freestyle right from the top of my head

Set 1: Chick in Red
Me: Hi, How're you [hi how are you? you're wearing red are you crazy? red is my secret afrodisiac I can't get closer to you or else I'll lose my mind.. you little mindfucker you]
Her: I am OK, you?
Me: I am great
Me: I am trying to guess where you're from, you look East European [..the lands of tall slim beautiful girls are you one of them?]
Her: Maybe
Me: Lithuania?
Her: No, actually I'm from here [oh shit you're not one of them.. so you hate cooking, dressing well, working out and being nice.. are you western bad girl?]
Me: Really? You're 100% Britisih
Her: Yes, and where you from?
Me: I'm from the States [.. the home country of mcdonald, where was the last time you had bigmac?]
Her: I guessed so
Me: So do you go here?
Her: yea I go to KCL
Me: What are you studying?
Her: Art History [ok since you know our past tell me where we're going.. for example tonight, where is tonight leading us to?]
Me: SOunds interesting
Her: No, it's boring
ME: Then why did you take it?
Her: I did not have any other choices
(Her boyfriend/fwb comes in and hugs her and then she kisses him)
Her: This is Patrick [hi patrick meet my little sister.. what was your name again?]
Me: Nice to meet you (I shake hand and I know it's time to exit)
(I see the chick not engaging me, so I cut her off and start talking to the shot girl)

Set 2:
Me: (I grab the chick's arm, and pull her near me) Hey, What's your name? [who.. are.. you.. ]
Her: Melinda
Me: YOu look like you're having a lot of fun [melinda? i love you]
Her: Sure I am, but I gotta go meet my friends

Set 3: Kinda like the same as with #2

Set 4: Skimpily clad slut
Me: (I pull her near me) I think you're sexy as hell [hey you know how to party!]
Her: Really? I'll be right back
(She goes back to her friends and takes a photo with them, apparently she was single, she came in with 4 friends and left with them)

Set 5:
Me: I don't think we've met before [hey hey.. I know you]
Her: I don't believe so
Me: I'm Alberto [yes I do.. from kindergarten.. you slapped me in front of my buddies.. I hate you]
Her: Stacy
Me: What a beautiful name [you changed name? or it wasn't you]
(Her girlfriends walk in and take her away)

Set 6
Me: i gotta ask you a favor
HEr: Ok
Me: I want you to sign me into the King's COllege SU
Her: What's in it for me
ME: Nothing [if you smile we might negotiate]
Her: No way
Me: How about a pound? [i lied i wouldn't negotiate with you, you look like trouble]
HEr: How about a drink?
Me: Really? [i don't want to drink but thanks maybe you're nice girl after all, maybe too nice]
Her: Yea
Me: How do I know you'll keep your word []
Her: I will
(So I get her a Vodka red bull, and we exchange numbers, and agree to meet up outside King's College next week) This honestly doesn't count as shit. But, I need to get in King's College, and this is the only way, as I don't have any friends there.

Set#7:
Me: (I spank her, and when she looks I smile) Come here sweetie
Her: (Avoids)

Set#8:
Me: Come party with me baby
Her: (Smiles) Imagine me peeing (she is on her way to the bathroom)
Me: No imaginations, just reality [that's disgusting, fuck it, let's pee together and see who's faster]
Her: But I really gotta pee
ME: Well come find me when you're done [me too, after you]

[XXL]

That's how VERBALS looks in practice.

+ Self amusement and gaming myself [not gaming her or trying to be funny to her]
+ Positive & negative expressions [not too nice or too rude, not linear/goal oriented convo]

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

XXL, that was an awesome post. I am being far too predictable, and it rarely works, I am gonna start adding humor from now.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

I have to go back to the number close route. ONS are kinda rare here, and my logistics are fucked, I live 8 miles away from Central London, and I don't have a car. However, I'd still like to go the chick's place.

[little wing]

Watch some Californication. Watch how Hank Moody seduced the ladies, he doesn't say stupid shit like "Hey what's your name" , "Come party with me babe" or anything else you said.
Watch and learn

[Citlalli]

(01-28-2013 05:47 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

I have to go back to the number close route. ONS are kinda rare here, and my logistics are fucked, I live 8 miles away from Central London, and I don't have a car. However, I'd still like to go the chick's place.

Where do you live?

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(02-04-2013 05:14 PM)little wing Wrote:  

Watch some Californication. Watch how Hank Moody seduced the ladies, he doesn't say stupid shit like "Hey what's your name" , "Come party with me babe" or anything else you said.
Watch and learn

Don't tell me to watch that shitty show again. I've seen all seasons, and I've had it. It's only a SHOW, go try it out for yourself. I can say whatever the hell I want man, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Listen to Julien RSD, it does not matter. "Come party with me" is shit I agree, but not what's your name.

Citalli, I live up north near White Hart Lane stadium.

[Citlalli]

(02-04-2013 08:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

Citalli, I live up north near White Hart Lane stadium.

Dude go out in Angel, Islington, Old street and Kings Cross.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(02-04-2013 08:55 PM)Citlalli Wrote:  

(02-04-2013 08:53 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

Citalli, I live up north near White Hart Lane stadium.

Dude go out in Angel, Islington, Old street and Kings Cross. much better scene, a little closer and lots cheaper

Whereabouts in Angel? Went to Scala King's Cross last friday night, and it sucked, ugly ass chicks, and too many dudes. I go to Old Street a lot, places like Hoxton Hotel, Cafe 1001, and it's usually not that good.
Are you living in London too?

[Matt3B]

(01-28-2013 05:47 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

ONS are kinda rare here

No lad, they are not.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(02-04-2013 09:00 PM)MattC Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 05:47 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

ONS are kinda rare here

No lad, they are not.

Hello again MattC, always the know-it-all, if you're in London, and you have good "game", how come you never show a brother how it's really done ?

[Millz]

ONS are really easy tbh just go to Croydon one day and go to Shoosh, Tiger Tiger or The black sheep.. If you fail there then no hope honstly

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(02-04-2013 09:09 PM)Millz Wrote:  

ONS are really easy tbh just go to Croydon one day and go to Shoosh, Tiger Tiger or The black sheep.. If you fail there then no hope honstly

My friend in Croydon says to avoid Croydon at all costs, chicks are really hideous, and the neighborhood is not very safe. It's also like 20 miles from my place. But, I can always go there, if I get bored of London.

[bojangles]

(02-04-2013 09:06 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

(02-04-2013 09:00 PM)MattC Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 05:47 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

ONS are kinda rare here

No lad, they are not.

Hello again MattC, always the know-it-all, if you're in London, and you have good "game", how come you never show a brother how it's really done ?

Time = money, that's why.

[Nudge]

Try Dalston

[dk902]

Bro I did a data sheet on London, look it up.