[Nomad77]

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_30840/do...inghistory

This Dodi Fayed guy seemed to have gotten some top notch talent. Now, it can't be his looks so I was wondering if you guys thought it was mostly due to his money or his game? We know he had tons of money but maybe he also had some game...

[WestIndianArchie]

(01-29-2013 09:13 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_30840/do...inghistory

This Dodi Fayed guy seemed to have gotten some top notch talent. Now, it can't be his looks so I was wondering if you guys thought it was mostly due to his money or his game? We know he had tons of money but maybe he also had some game...

This truly is the most evergreen topic on RVF.

Dodi was in a different social echelon. I'm not even sure if they make guys like him anymore.

The kind of chicks that he dates can *only* date guys like him. Consider the general thoughts on hypergamy, a chick only wants to date a guy above her. Hollywood Actresses have the same problem. Her match is another star, but frequently she ends up messing with her dance instructor, trainer, or industry person.

Super rich guys, super famous guys have to run a different type of game, IMO.

The way the normal game plays out, before you fuck, the chick has all the cards.
She can get you to go through her hoops before you can fuck her.

After you fuck her, you've pretty much won. So you have all the cards, because usually she wants to see you again. Either as a provider or a just provider of good feelings and good dick. Players don't particularly care one way or another.

Ever so often, the sex is awesome for you, and just pretty good for her, and you're willing to do her bidding to access that box, and she has control.

With a super rich/famous guy, if he gets tempted and dates down, she has an opportunity to get some real power. The situation flips from the norm. He has the power in the beginning, but if he fucks, she has the power.

- she can get famous for being his cock slot ( Amber Rose)
- she can fuck his marriage up (too many to mention)
- she can get preggers (too many to mention)

Ari Onassis, Dodi Fayed, various Hollywood and Sports figures - these guys typically have different obligations, and just sticking their dick into anything that gets them hard can have serious ramifications.

So as a result, they need to have better selection criteria and more rigorous screening. Ultimately though, it's going to be tough. When you're at the top of the food chain, there really is always something better around the corner.

WIA

[Nomad77]

But there are many guys out there just as rich, Hollywood producers, some fame etc. and they don't to pull as much. My feeling is that while he had money he also had good game and this is a point I keep making on here. Money is the icing on the cake - game is still the cake.

[WestIndianArchie]

(01-29-2013 10:01 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

But there are many guys out there just as rich, Hollywood producers, some fame etc. and they don't to pull as much. My feeling is that while he had money he also had good game and this is a point I keep making on here. Money is the icing on the cake - game is still the cake.

He might have had game, but his peers are cats like Ari Onassis and Gianni Agnelli.

Dodi is in a different subset of guys than your run of the mill billionaire.

And I'm willing to bet that a Hollywood insider would bag more, younger, and more attractive chicks that the international playboy type.

WIA

[Nomad77]

Ari and Gianni was way before this guy. He's was operating only about 20 years ago. Sure, anyone can bang young, hot chicks but these women are on different level and the competition for them must have been intense. Money could not have been the main attractant because most of the guys after these women had a lot of money I am sure.

[jammer]

(01-29-2013 10:22 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Ari and Gianni was way before this guy. He's was operating only about 20 years ago. Sure, anyone can bang young, hot chicks but these women are on different level and the competition for them must have been intense. Money could not have been the main attractant because most of the guys after these women had a lot of money I am sure.

Money is not the main attractor for these chicks but you are kidding yourself if you think you can get them with just pure game alone. They wouldn't even look at you if you aren't a millionaire. Good luck trying to game Julia Roberts or Princess Diana with a $80K/year job and awesome game skills.

[Nomad77]

I didn't say you could get them with game alone. I said, money was the main attractant. Agreed, you need a combination of game, socioeconomic status, money, and character to pull these girls.

[stpete]

Money and Game. You can do both and have fun in the process.

I'll explain as if I was talking to myself in my 20s

Even if you Marry Rich that's a lot to gamble and then what do you have?

I've had a lot of fun in my 20's but if I could I would tell myself to make more money.

You know, money can also come from being social. It's a part of money. In fact, a big part of money that most don't realize. In business groups meet women and have fun by being social.

I have heard the talk about the guys with no money getting the girls. And I have heard about the guys that have a lot of money that get walked on.

B.S. Sure they are out there but you are what you are. I was watching a doc with these guys meeting women in the Ukraine. It made me cringe these guys were so terrible. They must have some money but even so I think some people need more than just game. That is game is not what they need as they would be terrible anyway. For example there are plenty of guys at pick up conferences all the time and still a joke. My opinion is go make some MONEY.

I'm serious make money. Money and associated confidence will solve so much. But be social to make money as it is a part of it and meet women and have fun.

Do you see what I'm saying? Do both and practice.

Why not practice at the Chamber of Commerce or Rotary instead of a bar. In my 20s I joined a Chamber in a town 2 hrs away that my company was in. I had so many girls it was crazy. I didn't even realize, at the time, how many women in there 20s were desperate for a fun guy doing something with their life. They gravitate to that guy. This is a straight FACT. Looking back I saw time and time again young women in situations going after me b/c I was in a business situation that demonstrated I was going after something. They come to you so have fun with it. It's completely natural and run them through the tests of what you want.

Trust me if you find a good woman you will want the money. Even if she is so good she does not require it. It solves a lot of problems and makes things easier. Money can equal stress so get that out of the way. It may not be the woman but your stress over money and associated neg will drive her away.

Summary: Do both. Because people that make money are social. Just like Caveman women can't help but be drawn to guys doing something with their life. 99.9% of people successful don't sit at home. They are social. Do both and meet the women around you. It's so easy too as you're expected too.

Have fun and it's easy. So much is inner game and confidence. Game is really just game. Money is money and that's always solid. Incorporate game with money but always money is #1.

As for a profession, go after something people need. Every day skills that will never go away. No matter what.

[Nomad77]

This is the power of "pre-selection and association" at play. Get a top quality babe, and let the world know, and it becomes so much easier to get more them.

[UgSlayer]

It depends how much money. If I were a multi-billionaire, I'd pay for people to find and interview girls who would be part of my live-in harem in my ridiculous mansion.

No game needed. For fun we could play bumper cars with lambos and go shoot bald eagles and condors and white tigers and manatees and shit on my private hunting reserve with my .50 cal machine gun on my tank then go for a ride in my fighter jet.

For all that money, I'd would be willing to get fat on purpose, stop practicing good hygiene and have aspergers.

[+BMDT+]

(01-29-2013 10:01 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

But there are many guys out there just as rich, Hollywood producers, some fame etc. and they don't to pull as much. My feeling is that while he had money he also had good game and this is a point I keep making on here. Money is the icing on the cake - game is still the cake.

if you have no game no cake. If you got game and money. U move to the front of the line quickly. I do not have patience, so I run game and drizzle $$$ if I must. Get it and move on to the next.

[jammer]

(01-29-2013 10:01 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

But there are many guys out there just as rich, Hollywood producers, some fame etc. and they don't to pull as much. My feeling is that while he had money he also had good game and this is a point I keep making on here. Money is the icing on the cake - game is still the cake.

Hollywood producers get a ton of pussy. In fact they are like a notch below actors in that category. There's been plenty of hollywood types (directors, producers, etc.) that have married some famous actresses. Not to mention how a lot of these producers bang a ton of young hot talent in exchange for giving them an acting gig.