[Magic Bullets]

Have known a few women on the juice before, one of them was a champion Nabba bodybuilder and was world ranked, she drank herself to death. Women who are into fitness/athletics are a group which is seldom mentioned by the pua community or forums like this, it would be interesting to have a game plan to snare one. One thing I do think is that women are choisier about where they train and tend to be more gym snobs than guys.

[Magic Bullets]

The girl on fb, is a good example of a hot natural female physique.

[Ziltoid]

(12-21-2012 02:33 AM)jariel Wrote:  

From G's site...

[Spike]

@The machinist.

I like women who are toned, even slightly muscular but the pics you're posting are a bridge too far. Some look clearly like guys without a ding dong. Even off season they would probably look hulky.
Maybe a novelty bang but no repeater.

[Technics]

Machinist,

Those girls you posted in the second batch are borderline for me. I'd probably still go for most of them, especially if we are talking off-season.

[TheMan]

Athletic women are the best in my book.

But it is important to never confuse them with the Female Body Builders. There is a HUGE difference between the two.

Athletic women strong and feminine.
Fun to watch and even more fun to play with. Period.

Female body builders are on overkill mode [some even using steroids] to the point where they lool like they're expirimenting with some alternate form of transgenderism.




There really is no comparison.

One class actually are just fit girls and the other looks like cross dressers with bolt-ons.

[kosko]

My golden rule is that she can't be more jacked and ripped than me. Simple as that. I can't be attracted to a female whom is more jacked then me that is not a general attraction anymore and is a fetish. The OP has a fetish has his taste is way to far off for me.

This is more what I am talking about:



On the extremes girls whom are track athletes would be the top end of ripped ness and tone I still find attractive in women.:





The key is that Track girls still keep the curves in their bottoms, they still usually have big asses and shit once a female looses that and that ass turns into pure muscle then she is nothing more then a Man with long hair.

[TheMachinist]

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN. And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity. My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

[kosko]

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN. And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity. My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

Fetlife.com

[TheMachinist]

(12-21-2012 02:01 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN. And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity. My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

Fetlife.com

WTF!?! I ain't harboring no fantasies about letting a bitch beat my ass.Not my thing.As usual a simple question about preferences turns to fetish and gender confusion talk.Whatever...

[TheMan]

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN. And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity. My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN.

what you're essentially saying is that
you look at a person magically sense (despite their form, be it that of a fat ass, an fbb or MAN with an overgrown mullet) that they have ovaries and a vagina and say to yourself "yup" all my criteria checked, im gunna go get me some of that".

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity.

1) you're assuming that we are not big and muscular and don't lift. cant speak for anyone else but you're wrong twice there with me
2) you're either somehow missed the hot feminine muscled examples that i posted above or you're ignoring them on purpose for the sake of constructing your response (either way, very telling)
3) you lob insults thus causing us to stop reading your message in an empathetic way (natural human reaction)

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

didnt read it but Im sure it was good (see point 3 from above)

besides if i wanted to roman wrestle with a muscular [pseudo-]peer then id just put on my best pair of tighty-whiteys and head on down to the local bath house for a game of good old towel flag football

[TheMachinist]

(12-21-2012 02:31 PM)TheMan Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN. And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity. My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

haha no. it's no threat to our masculinity mate. its just that we happen to like girls
if we wanted to suck cock
we'd just
suck
cock
...instead of lying to ourselves about all of these "strange new feelings" ಠ_ಠ

Wow. Okay.Certainly not a closet homosexual.Keep hurling the insults guys.Really mature of you.

[kosko]

(12-21-2012 02:06 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 02:01 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 01:18 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

If it's got a VAGINA and OVARIES it's a WOMAN. And I'm a big ,muscular guy myself so there just isn't anyway I'd ever physically be concerned if a chick is rocking some muscle. Even a roided up full on female bodybuilder is absolutely ZERO threat to my masculinity. My questions and concerns more so center around why we as men shun fatties but don't appreciate the opposite end of the spectrum.Again still very obviously WOMEN.Their not transgender their not cross dressers but WOMEN that do the opposite of whats required to be fat. I mean lets be honest the vast majority of American women ain't but a baby away from being FAT. Even those 8,9's and dimes that we all covet are just a bad breakup and a pepperoni pizza away from fat. Most of the woman that are considered to be "ideal" by western standards are skating by on pure luck.How many times have you seen a chick go from the hot model type to Rosie Odonnel? Me...ALOT.Why? Because these broads really ain't into fitness and generally living a healthy lifestyle. They just skate by on what god gave them until life eventually catches up with them.

Fetlife.com

WTF!?! I ain't harboring no fantasies about letting a bitch beat my ass.Not my thing.As usual a simple question about preferences turns to fetish and gender confusion talk.Whatever...

Naw what I am saying is that your tastes represent a small ... very small minority of men. When you have a taste for something sexual that a small minority of men share it is called a Fetish.

So for the pictures you posted. Unless you look (sorta) like this:




Then this is no rationale or upside to going after a female that big unless you simply just have a fetish for them. A dude like Rich devotes a shit ton of time to the gym and if he has his girl with him at the gym then whatever, but the biggest point is that he can still overpower the women. My homie his Ex got into Bodybuilding because he was into it, the only time she could spend with him was at the gym she started working out with him and now is a jacked up mess (he was a bumbling beta but he still could toss her around if needed). That similarity of lifestyle is key or else the dude has really no incentive to go after that. If your not taking that into account then your leaving a lot out of the discussion that maybe you don't want to disclose, (enjoyment of being submissive to a female in bed, etc) because it just does not make any sense.

Here is why:

Quote:

Muscle worship is a social behaviour, usually with a sexual aspect (a form of body worship), in which a participant, the worshiper, touches the muscles of another participant, the dominator, in sexually arousing ways, which can include rubbing, massaging, kissing, licking, "lift and carry", and various wrestling holds. The dominator is almost always either a bodybuilder, a fitness competitor, or wrestler—an individual with a large body size and a high degree of visible muscle mass. The worshiper is often, but not always, skinnier, smaller, and more out of shape. [1][2][3] Muscle worship can include participants of both sexes and all sexual orientations.[4][5]

Your logic is coloured to the fact that since these women are not fat that men should appreciate them. But I view these hulk-women as trash buckets just like the fatty obese whales. They are just at the oopsite ends of teh wheel, different spectrums, in the trash pile sitting beside each other.

Also it's flawed because you don't see the dark-side to the bright side of 'muscular women'. You have to take the bad with the good like with anything else.

You say you workout also. How muchtime do you devote to the gym, nutrition, supplements, etc? Men hardcore into the gym have to be very strict and religious about how they approach things. The pay off for this is that a Man can get strong, and (of course) get more access to women.

Now on the flip side a female would have to devote the same amount of time, energy, resource to achieve these results. With the end goal of limiting her appeal to men in the long run and with the end goal of having to sacrifice time to one or the other when in fact she does find a man to have kids with. There are countless stories of women whom are to obbssed with the gym and shit to take care of thier children. Thats bullshit.

So thats why I noted the similar lifestyles. If your a heavy bodybuilder then its cool because you share a ton of shit that makes it compatible to chase after really musclar broads. And also the elitism of being elite humans and that no other people on that level should even fuck with you, that is true also but there's gotta be that on both sides for it to be valid.

Are these the 3 extremes? I think so. Anything farther then that and your into merky waters:

1. Hella Toned:

2. Toned & tight with mass:

3. Size + Tone + Mass:

That last girl is built as hell. Still would gladly fuck but anything more and I'm just looking the other way, there is just a threshold when a female being feminine starts to go downhill quick.

Women want to be dominated. Men want to dominate them.

[FourToTheFloor]

Google "Chicken Tuna." She's perfection IMO. Her ass is out of this world.

EDIT: Case in point:

[TheMachinist]

Again I myself am in pretty good shape and I'm not small by any means.I've lifted seriously for about the last 15+years to aid in my various athletic pursuits.Only recently have I turned to body building due to my frame and ability to pack on muscle easily.A cousin of mine is a "natural bodybuilder" at the national level and he's gotten me into it with the goal of doing a show at the top of 2014.I've been to several national level shows and have met and hungout with a few female pro bodybuilders.Even roided up most of them are still small compared to myself and I could easily dominate them.I just wanna clarify that fit chicks and body builder types are by far NOT THE ONLY WOMEN I FIND ATTRACTIVE.Quite the contrary...Within BBW's,Hipster's,Model types,Black,White,Yellow and any subset of women in between I can find some bangable and dateable women. I Love Women.That is not to say that I'll fuck anything but that I can find attractive women(to me) anywhere.It just kinda shocks me to hear guys complain about fat chix and then in the same breath complain about a chick that takes care of herself to the point of having some muscle.

[TheMan]

(12-21-2012 02:45 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

Wow. Okay.Certainly not a closet homosexual.Keep hurling the insults guys.Really mature of you.

Oh... well then good for you. I hear coming out like that takes real courage.

RE the insults: sorry.
I hadn't realized that you were meant to have the monopoly on them

[Technics]

TheMan,

Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder. At no point did TheMachinist insult you whatsoever.

It's not an insult to others for someone to say that they work out and are not intimidated by muscular girls.

Relax brother.

(12-21-2012 04:16 PM)TheMan Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 02:45 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

Wow. Okay.Certainly not a closet homosexual.Keep hurling the insults guys.Really mature of you.

Oh... well then good for you coming out like that takes real courage.

RE the insults: sorry.
I hadn't realized that you were meant to have the monopoly on them

[TheMan]

(12-21-2012 04:17 PM)Technics Wrote:  

TheMan,

Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder. At no point did TheMachinist insult you whatsoever.

It's not an insult to others for someone to say that they work out and are not intimidated by muscular girls.

Relax brother.

(12-21-2012 04:16 PM)TheMan Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 02:45 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

Wow. Okay.Certainly not a closet homosexual.Keep hurling the insults guys.Really mature of you.

Oh... well then good for you coming out like that takes real courage.

RE the insults: sorry.
I hadn't realized that you were meant to have the monopoly on them

On the contrary, all I did was express what I like and don't like and was met with an extreemly disproportionate response.
But don't take my word for it. re-read from my post with the pictures on down (hint there was zero mention about my, his or anyone else's masculinity)

Regardless, I appreciate what you're trying to do so I'll drop it.

[kosko]

Look at these pictures I feel the shoulders is key. Even for my own personal experiences fucking around with a female bodybuilder I had to cut shit off once her shoulders started to swell. She no longer turned me on and it was like a instant thing like she got ugly overnight. But I am realizing the patten here.

The shoulders is one of the key traits that separates a Female body from a males. This part with the tits, waist/hips, ass, petite frame, etc. Your loosing a lot going for this heavy tones chics, 90% of them have no tits (first thing that goes) the ass is either nice, tight and toned, or shapely and curvy like the Norwegian girl but you notice both those girls still have proportionate shoulders. The last girl I posted she is at the border, her shoulders are gross and at some angles I would loose my wood if I was hitting it.

Large/Broad shoulders is Male trait 100%.


Look at the pictures that everybody posted other than OP. 90% of the females for the most part the shoulders are not out of wack, contrast this to the OP's selection. This is not a knock I am just using your example to try and make a case for my observation. It must be some back brain shit for Men to run the hell away when dealing with those types of women.

[TheMan]

(12-21-2012 04:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Look at these pictures I feel the shoulders is key. Even for my own personal experiences fucking around with a female bodybuilder I had to cut shit off once her shoulders started to swell. She no longer turned me on and it was like a instant thing like she got ugly overnight. But I am realizing the patten here.

The shoulders is one of the key traits that separates a Female body from a males. This part with the tits, waist/hips, ass, petite frame, etc. Your loosing a lot going for this heavy tones chics, 90% of them have no tits (first thing that goes) the ass is either nice, tight and toned, or shapely and curvy like the Norwegian girl but you notice both those girls still have proportionate shoulders. The last girl I posted she is at the border, her shoulders are gross and at some angles I would loose my wood if I was hitting it.

Large/Broad shoulders is Male trait 100%.


Look at the pictures that everybody posted other than OP. 90% of the females for the most part the shoulders are not out of wack, contrast this to the OP's selection. This is not a knock I am just using your example to try and make a case for my observation. It must be some back brain shit for Men to run the hell away when dealing with those types of women.

also vascularity is a big turn off see my first FBB example

[theIVth]

I'd definitely smash

[TheMan]

(12-21-2012 04:43 PM)theIVth Wrote:  

I'd definitely smash

Hellz yeah

you ever heard of jamie eason?

[TheMachinist]

(12-21-2012 04:43 PM)theIVth Wrote:  

I'd definitely smash

...and TWICE on Sunday!!!

[TheMachinist]

(12-21-2012 04:48 PM)TheMan Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 04:43 PM)theIVth Wrote:  

I'd definitely smash

Hellz yeah

you ever heard of jamie eason?

Yep.That bitch is BAD.I met her a couple years ago.And despite what the pics may leave you to believe she is tiny.

[TheMan]

(12-21-2012 04:50 PM)TheMachinist Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 04:48 PM)TheMan Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 04:43 PM)theIVth Wrote:  

I'd definitely smash

Hellz yeah

you ever heard of jamie eason?

Yep.That bitch is BAD.I met her a couple years ago.And despite what the pics may leave you to believe she is tiny.

cool where did you meet her? at a comp'? at a show?


also
if you don't already know about it:
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I think you'll find some slightly more muscular girls there too