[La Familia]

What's good guys,

I've been lurking here for some time now, and I have been reading up on many blogs with Roosh's being one of the blogs I read frequently. I got out of a two year relationship a few months ago, and it has taken me some time to return to the groove of things as a single guy. With that being said (and me turning 21 recently), I have been approaching many women at the college bars with some success. My college is pretty small--only 5000 or so undergrad--and me being a junior, many of the students have settled in their "clique" (greek life, athletic teams, etc.) It has impeded on my progress somewhat, because after approaching a girl at the bar, a couple of her frat friends come up and pretty much "force her away" from me even when she's having a good time. I have more success getting numbers from the law students at my college who are all 3-5 years older than me than those around my age.

So, should I stay persistent and hopefully date a couple of women in the 18-22 range? I'm known to be social, and at one of the three bars I have most of the staff behind me (courtesy of gmanifesto's greasing guide). Thanks again for the help guys, reading up on most of your stories has been a rush for me to experience the same.

[thegmanifesto]

"a couple of her frat friends come up and pretty much "force her away" from me even when she's having a good time."

This is typical of college swooping in a small environment.

Its good to have the bars on lock down. Good work.

You might want to try to "befriend" some of these fraternity cats. Buying someone a drink goes a long way.

[La Familia]

(04-05-2010 01:58 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"a couple of her frat friends come up and pretty much "force her away" from me even when she's having a good time."

This is typical of college swooping in a small environment.

Its good to have the bars on lock down. Good work.

You might want to try to "befriend" some of these fraternity cats. Buying someone a drink goes a long way.

Good looks G, I will try that out tonight and see how things go.

[JoeSea]

The best advice I can give you about college game (which admittedly won't do very much for your right now) is to treat the first 2 weeks of the semester, especially fall semester, like the only two weeks of the whole semester. By that I mean approach everyday all day and take whatever you can get: phone numbers, email, facebook, blowjobs ect. Because once test #1 rolls around, you'll see a huge dropoff in how open and receptive chicks are to being approached. Also, the college diet sets in and chicks start feeling crappy just because of the powdered eggs and pizza they're downing 2 and 3 times a day. This works better if you live on or near campus, not so much if you commute everday.

One other piece of advice is to try to find the "vortex point" on campus, which will probably be the student center, which gets the most amount of foot traffic. It's pretty easy to meet commuters and other people killing time before their next class and are willing to chat.

[thegmanifesto]

"One other piece of advice is to try to find the "vortex point" on campus,"

Excellent point. It is all "vortex points" these days.

Back when I was in college, we used to kick back and smoke grits in front of the two freshman girls dorms.

[JoeSea]

Excellent point yourself, sir. Which is to say that on a decent sized campus, there should me multiple "vortex points", you should try to find as many as you can. Or at the very least, one for daytime and one for the evening.

And G, you are absolutely right about "vortex points", hell, VP theory could take up a whole thread/discussion on its own. To me, VP game coincides with "defensive game", in that it's not built around running after every chick that you think is hot. It's more about kicking back and waiting for opportunities to present themselves, which is more advanced game. The focus is on positioning, which IMO, is where a lot of the game is either won or lost.

The two biggest lessons that I've learned from watching Michael Jordan do his thing are that: good defense transitions to good offense and never try to force things, let the game come to you.

[thegmanifesto]

JoeSea,

Yeah, I have mentioned "vortex points" on here before a while back, or on Roosh's blog.

I should do some writing on them.

[OGNorCal707]

JoeSea's advice is golden. I should add that guys in my town (we have a small college here), refer to the first three weeks of the semester as "hunting season", unfortunately a lot of girls here shack up with a boyfriend and get stuck in long term relationships, so you're best bet is to get at these honeys before they have a boyfriend or five other guys chasing at the same time. Also I never did this because I was too anti-social and busy with other shit, but don't underestimate the opportunities that joining some cool clubs can get you as far as meeting honeys (outdoor adventure, snowboarding, language, etc.)

[La Familia]

thanks for all the help guys--turns out that i do better with the girls on the sports teams. Meaning, they're more on the range of 8s and 9s rather than the 6 and occasionally 7 sorority girls. And OG, I've been finding more women through the clubs I'm in--didn't see how many hidden gems there are (and i'm not talking about OC's compilation album)

cheers.

[Sketness]

(04-07-2010 03:59 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

JoeSea's advice is golden. I should add that guys in my town (we have a small college here), refer to the first three weeks of the semester as "hunting season", unfortunately a lot of girls here shack up with a boyfriend and get stuck in long term relationships, so you're best bet is to get at these honeys before they have a boyfriend or five other guys chasing at the same time. Also I never did this because I was too anti-social and busy with other shit, but don't underestimate the opportunities that joining some cool clubs can get you as far as meeting honeys (outdoor adventure, snowboarding, language, etc.)

OGNorCall707 are you from the north bay? I ask because I live in the north bay and I'm wondering where are the most productive spots for swoopin females?

[OGNorCal707]

Naw man I'm up in Humboldt Co., about 4 hrs. north of Santa Rosa, so I don't know much about the area. I know there is a college at Rohnert Park, some good breweries in Santa Rosa, and Petaluma seems pretty chill and has a good music venue (Mystic Theatre).

[GermanDude]

"Also, the college diet sets in and chicks start feeling crappy just because of the powdered eggs and pizza they're downing 2 and 3 times a day."

Is this really how (a lot of) people in the US eat? As in eating pizza / fast food daily?

[thoughtgypsy]

(04-18-2010 07:19 PM)GermanDude Wrote:  

Is this really how (a lot of) people in the US eat? As in eating pizza / fast food daily?

Yea. It depends on the area, but most people tend to eat what satisfies them the most and costs the least. Not so common in the athletic/hippie/artsy circles, but true for >60% of the population. It's one of those flaws from our culture of instant gratification.

[La Familia]

Yeah, as thoughtgypsy said, the majority of the population is addicted to processed and refined foods. The obesity rate within children is absurd, and we aren't even factoring in gender and race. It's pretty bad in college--the freshmen girls have fit bodies when they first enter, and after a year they are oompa lumpas. Gotta find them and hit the jackpot before it's too late.

I was thinking about this the other day, and thought about starting another thread. So far this past weekend, I have been told I was "too cocky" "lot of sass" by a few women. However, it really didn't dampen the interaction between them, and they wanted to see me again afterwards. From all of your experiences, is being too cocky a bad thing? Even though they are interested and laugh at what I say, it seems as though this could hinder my progress. Or, the alternative option is that they haven't met a man who is confident in himself.

Thanks fellas, you guys have been a great with your advice. Cheers.

[thoughtgypsy]

(04-18-2010 11:46 PM)La Familia Wrote:  

So far this past weekend, I have been told I was "too cocky" "lot of sass" by a few women. However, it really didn't dampen the interaction between them, and they wanted to see me again afterwards. From all of your experiences, is being too cocky a bad thing? Even though they are interested and laugh at what I say, it seems as though this could hinder my progress. Or, the alternative option is that they haven't met a man who is confident in himself.

Never listen to what women say, but rather pay attention to what they do. Some things about game seem counter-intuitive and restrictive at first. Like you said, they generally don't meet men who are cocky or who don't immediately comply with their requests. You are separating yourself from the pack in a good way. I've never had cockiness work against me as long as I didn't take myself too seriously.