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There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!
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There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

That's right I just said it there is no difference between a 10 and a 5, I am not referring to looks however, it is something else, that can help people realize that "gaming" a 10 and "gaming" to a 5 is no different.

I see countless threads and posts on this forum by various people on "how to game a 10" or "how to get a lay with a 10", the answer is there is NO DIFFERENCE between how you would game a 10 and how you would game a 5.

Think about it for one second, just because a girl is a 10 and is a supermodel, does that mean that for some strange reason their brain is mutated and different from the less attractive girls like a 5-6? Of course not, girls that are 10s like the same thing that less attractive girls like, such as shopping, (insert all other stereotypical female interests), and what they like in a man.

Your Perception Vs Her Perception


This might be kind of offbeat but what seperates a olympic champion and the rest of his field? Training? No, all of them probably had the same training in slight different facilities. Nutrition? At that level of competition, they virtually almost have an universally strict diet. Time? No, they all roughly train about the same times and have about the same number of rests. The difference is during the time of competition the olympic champion visualizes success and the gold medal while the rest envisions defeat, wonders if their training was adaquate enough or if the are good enough to even be there.

Your perception or visualization when apporaching a 10 and before even talking to her is really the only difference between a 10 supermodel and a 5-6 average girl. Your perception of how you THINK she is going to react to you and thinking if you have enough "game" to be able to get her. YOU have a predetermined result in your head of what you THINK will happen and most of the time you probably think you will get rejected or you will have to "step up your game" and think you are not good enough to get her, but that is not true. Do you think girls that are 10s automatically have an auto reject button going in her mind? Nope. Its what you do that leads up to that. Her perception is the same as any other women, and that is to have a good time and look for an alpha sucessful man. Of course, there will be slight differences on what exactly what the girl wants because every person is different but that is an general outline of what a girl wants, just like how almost 90% of guys like myself would like a girl with an attractive face with a fit body.

Rejection and trying to "relate"

I know a lot of people are going to ask why they keep getting rejected by 10s, simple because you treat them differently then other women! Do you think its fun to be a supermodel when almost every single guy that talks to her suddenly becomes a beta chump? That is like if you were talking to a hot girl and all of sudden she becomes a fatty. Do you think those girls like it when every guy tries so hard to get them or has to try hard? Its disappointing to them and that is why they will reject you, because you look like an alpha guy, you dress like an alpha guy, but as soon as you talk to her you become nervous and become a beta guy.

A lot of other guys think that "relating" to a 10 or supermodel is a way to get her on your bed, so they begin asking them if they are models and how long it takes to do a photoshoot or talk about how it feels to be on magazines or talk about how she maintains hers looks and talk about how you do facial excercises to look younger. "Relating" with a 10 is about the worst thing you can do, if you are trying to get her in pants. Its like if an ugly/average girl comes up to your and starts talking to you about cars and sports, would you think that girls is hotter in anyway? Ofcourse not, and that is because they do not have their own personality, you will also probably think she is a dike. So when you guys are "relating" to a 10 she will probably think you are a gay guy with no balls. And that will definitely not help you get the 10 back to your house.

"stepping up your game"=Fail

For other people they will say "just step your game". But by you trying to "step your game up" or act differently just shows that you are not confident with who you are and insecure with your life.

Do you think Porfirio Rubirosa, one of greatest international players of all time tries to "step up his game" while talking to beautiful women? No. He knows not tries but knows he is charismatic and charming and that is why he has layed with some of the hottest women in his time, including Marilyn Monroe.

How do you get a 10 then? Be normal

A lot of you are probably wondering what being normal means. It is exactly as the line states, be normal. Instead of trying to "relate" or "stepping up your game" the next time you see a 10, just walk up casually and start a normal conversation. This might be hard at first, because you will feel nervous but try as hard as you can to be normal and you will soon realize that she will talk to you like any other girl would, and is not automatically a phycho bitch that wants to reject every man she comes in contact with. If you are even able to hold a normal conversation with a 10 and just being yourself you are already ahead of all of the other guys out there and in her mind you will stand out. Of course this is just the start but its a great start. You can talk about almost anything about any topic that might interest you and you will see that she will begin adding to the conversation as well. This is the beauty of it all, just because a girl is a 10 and looks like a supermodel doesn't mean she will be an absolute bitch, and just because a girl is a 5 and looks plain doesn't mean she will always be nice.


So next time when you are thinking of talking to a 6-7 in the corner of the bar instead of the gorgeous 10 right infront of you because you are too scared or fear rejection, think again. Just relax, walk up casually and be normal so that means talking like a human being and you will see there is no difference in talking to her then the 6-7 and its all in your head or perception. Maybe after a few nights you might think talking to a 10 or getting a 10 is not all that hard at all.
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#2

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Theoretically, you're 100% right, and it has been stated before here - you should apply the same level of game on a 5 as you would a woman you consider more attractive. If you're going to go in, go in with your best, whatever that is, regardless of who you're spitting game to. However, to do this we have to fight human nature. Even infants respond to more attractive people differently than someone less attractive.

"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
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#3

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

All true, but as Timoteo stated, easier said than done due to social condition. What helps a lot is AFTER you have gotten one. Then you know you can and that's makes it easier to be normal with them.
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#4

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Entitlement is the name of the game here.

This scene is quite good especially because in the movie the guy is pretty much nobody in terms of status in that situation and the girl is gorgeous fiance of his employer (I think).






This embodies the dude with high entitlement.

On one hand he's not trying to convey value by coming up with some cool/amazing things to say beside having normal fun flirty convo. He's chill and so called normal and shows no anxiety which conveys that talking to that type of hotties is completely natural for him.

On the other hand he's fearlessly making moves and leading the interaction without flinching, no fear getting physical, comebacks, leading the conversation, not taking her shit, etc.

These are the two elements of a highly entitled man. He stays cool not trying to impress anybody yet he's making shit happen. Having that balance is an art. It's hard. Especially if you have a fucking gorgeous chick looking at you with that stupid pout on her face hahaha..
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There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Quote: (12-08-2012 11:49 PM)Insignia Wrote:  

there is NO DIFFERENCE between how you would game a 10 and how you would game a 5.

Now wait just one minute. The 5s of this world need love too, and I don't want you giving men the wrong idea about what's required to game them.

What you should say is this: You game a 10 like you would a 5 (or I guess you do; I don't spend a lot of time gaming 10s, tbh) and you game a 5 like you would a-- not a 10, maybe a 6 or a 7. Less aloof, more open with your interest, more obvious that you want to impress her. Your standard 5 has been jerked around like a common skeez ho enough times that, even though she wants to leave with a cool guy, she's not itching to get kicked out of some dude's apartment at 3:45 AM. She's got a been there, done that mentality toward that kind of treatment.

Remember this shit once the 10 shoots you down. Nothing wrong with the occasional 5-- lot of 5s out there suck a mean dick.
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#6

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

There is an old saying: treat a Princess like a whore and whore like a Princess [Image: smile.gif]
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#7

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

"There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!"

-My cock says different.
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#8

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Half true, but you need higher confidence. You have to look at a 10's perception. She may not be approached all the time, but when she is approached it's by confident guys. Confident guys usually have something that makes them so confident: looks, charm, money, game, or all of them. All you have to do is look at perception to see why it isn't the same. 5's will not be approached by high value guys, so you can be a lower value guy and they have nothing better to compare it to. I see where you are coming from but you are way over-generalizing.

However, if you treat a 10 like you would a 5... you will do much better no doubt. Just understand that it's only a part of a bigger picture.
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#9

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

"Think about it for one second, just because a girl is a 10 and is a supermodel, does that mean that for some strange reason their brain is mutated and different from the less attractive girls like a 5-6? Of course not, girls that are 10s like the same thing that less attractive girls like, such as shopping, (insert all other stereotypical female interests), and what they like in a man. "

While I agree with the general idea of your hypothesis i have to point out something:
Her brain is the same as any other girls brain, but the experiences that molded her psyche are vastly different. Think about it for a second, why did Mystery teach men to never compliment hot girls - except for the obvious fact that it raises her value so it's counter-productive to your seduction efforts. Because she heard it so many times from so many guys(and girls) that she basically despises hearing it.

This vid is relevant, 1:14. Bar Rafaeli says that nobody hits on her, or tries to flirt.



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#10

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Quote: (12-09-2012 10:47 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

"There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!"

-My cock says different.

I couldn't think of a catchy title name I guess that was the one I thought of.


Quote: (12-09-2012 10:59 AM)20Nation Wrote:  

Half true, but you need higher confidence. You have to look at a 10's perception. She may not be approached all the time, but when she is approached it's by confident guys. Confident guys usually have something that makes them so confident: looks, charm, money, game, or all of them. All you have to do is look at perception to see why it isn't the same. 5's will not be approached by high value guys, so you can be a lower value guy and they have nothing better to compare it to. I see where you are coming from but you are way over-generalizing.

However, if you treat a 10 like you would a 5... you will do much better no doubt. Just understand that it's only a part of a bigger picture.

Yes of course, confidence is extremely important but can be built. With the looks, charm, money, that is something that is external but for guys that are average, confidence is something that can be built and should be coming from within. By talking to 10s, even if it is not something sexual they would be more confidence because they will get over their perception that every hot girl is a bitch.
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#11

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Quote: (12-09-2012 12:00 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Theoretically, you're 100% right, and it has been stated before here - you should apply the same level of game on a 5 as you would a woman you consider more attractive. If you're going to go in, go in with your best, whatever that is, regardless of who you're spitting game to. However, to do this we have to fight human nature. Even infants respond to more attractive people differently than someone less attractive.

Yes that is true and it takes time to learn that a 10 would not react differently than 5-6 would because a 10 is that much more attractive but after a few appoarches with 10s you will being to learn.
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#12

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

The title of this thread sounds like a Dove body soap commercial
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#13

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

At 1 or 2 AM in a busy bar or club there is a difference. A 5 is more likely to give a rude remark to a cold approach and a 10 is more likely to just ignore you and pretend you are not there when you do a cold approach.
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#14

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

This is right there up there with "I only game 10s."

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#15

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Welcome to the forum! I love it when people post threads with new ideas motivating others to try new things. That being said, I would just like to say, your advice is a little weak in the sense that it's rookie advice.

"There is no difference between a 10 and a 5?" that makes no sense, bro.

That's like saying there is no difference between being rich and being poor. I would agree that a persons soul might not change... maybe that is to say that a woman is still a woman; but, there is a world of difference between a high status woman, and otherwise. The advice that I think you are trying to give is, "Relax bro, she's just a girl." and that is true and also is newbie advice. But, if you're going to bed a high profile woman, you're going to need some sort of a framework. And that's where things like segmentation come in.

You follow?

If you apply the same mating strategy across the board to all females you're not really going to be effective. I've never read the art of war, but I think Sun Tzu says something along the lines of "know thy enemy." If you're presuming that "There is no difference between a 10 and a 5. You're flying blind.


That being said, thanks for trying to provide the forum with novel content.

-PJ
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#16

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Quote: (12-11-2012 12:08 PM)PJ25 Wrote:  

Welcome to the forum! I love it when people post threads with new ideas motivating others to try new things. That being said, I would just like to say, your advice is a little weak in the sense that it's rookie advice.

"There is no difference between a 10 and a 5?" that makes no sense, bro.

That's like saying there is no difference between being rich and being poor. I would agree that a persons soul might not change... maybe that is to say that a woman is still a woman; but, there is a world of difference between a high status woman, and otherwise. The advice that I think you are trying to give is, "Relax bro, she's just a girl." and that is true and also is newbie advice. But, if you're going to bed a high profile woman, you're going to need some sort of a framework. And that's where things like segmentation come in.

You follow?

If you apply the same mating strategy across the board to all females you're not really going to be effective. I've never read the art of war, but I think Sun Tzu says something along the lines of "know thy enemy." If you're presuming that "There is no difference between a 10 and a 5. You're flying blind.


That being said, thanks for trying to provide the forum with novel content.

-PJ

The advice above is a start, of course just like any other threads here on this forum it all depends on the person but this advice points the person on the right path. By you saying "know thy enemy" you are trying to already overanalyzing "how to game a 10" instead of actually going and talking to her and having that chill vibe. Trust me I don't believe in "game" maybe because I am a natrual but by you trying to analzye you will "have that game vibe" and she will most likely think you are a creep.
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#17

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

I don't agree with the BE NORMAL rule which is different from BE YOURSELF, which means BE NATURAL.

If I would BE NORMAL, I wouldn't approach, period. Doing cold approaches is an artificial activity.

Also the Porfirio you mention cannot be taken representative, for his looks are above average and had lots of political connections/power.

"Fart, and if you must, fart often. But always fart without apology. Fart for freedom, fart for liberty, and fart proudly" (Ben Franklin)
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#18

There is no difference between a 10(supermodel) and a 5(average girl)!

Quote: (12-12-2012 08:37 AM)michelin Wrote:  

I don't agree with the BE NORMAL rule which is different from BE YOURSELF, which means BE NATURAL.

If I would BE NORMAL, I wouldn't approach, period. Doing cold approaches is an artificial activity.

Also the Porfirio you mention cannot be taken representative, for his looks are above average and had lots of political connections/power.

That is what I meant when I said be normal, be normal as in be your normal self.
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