[thegmanifesto]

(11-17-2013 09:56 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

I had good luck in Pac Beach at Firehouse.

Maybe it was just me, but I really had to watch my back in PB. Lots of little cliques and guys looking to start fights.

Not a good place to roll solo.

Yeah, it used to be even worse.

If you roll solo you can become a target.

So everyone rolls in groups and as we know, generally speaking, you don't swoop in groups.

So every one goes out, ratios are bad, no one gets laid.

Maybe there is a 5 on 3 fight at the Taco Shop while ordering a Carne Asada Burrito. Extra Guac.

Then maybe a after party with 12 guys, 2 weesh girls and a half a gram of blow. And no one has money or if guys have money, no one can get a dealer on the phone. Then two more guys walk in with bags of Mex, 3 Rolled Tacos and Carnitas Burritos.

Extra Guac.



Not to mention, San Diego along with LA and OC is the absolute worst place on earth for girls on cellphones.

It is a bold call, but I would venture to say in general that there is less sex going down in San Diego than any other comparable city.

The whole vibe of the place is asexual, girls in jeans, UGG Boots, Flip Flops, female Board shorts, White Dance Culture, Insecurity, Lack of Self Confidence, Restraint, Dry etc.

Compare it to a place like Miami, were it's steamy, girls in heels, thongs, topless, girls dancing, warm water, freedom, openess, latin rhythms etc.

Sex is in the air in Miami as soon as your plane touches down.

No one in San Diego can even dance.

[Giovonny]

(11-18-2013 08:04 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

female Board shorts

(11-18-2013 08:04 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

White Dance Culture

I can tell that you are feeling good and getting your rest.

When your comedic instincts and analytical sense reaches this level, I know you are feeling strong.

Keep it flowing!

[Merenguero]

(11-18-2013 02:42 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 08:04 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

female Board shorts

(11-18-2013 08:04 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

White Dance Culture

I can tell that you are feeling good and getting your rest.

When your comedic instincts and analytical sense reaches this level, I know you are feeling strong.

Keep it flowing!

I think Zanesville deserves its own subforum. I think we have reached that point.

[mbare]

(11-17-2013 06:11 PM)TroubleMaker Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 06:08 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

I dont know G - I think being the kind of SD can reap some pretty good talent. But in the strange way the city operates the king isnt the guy w/the money, style, or experience, its the guy who is wired to the local scene or is a promoter/DJ who dresses in flip flops and basketball jerseys and sharing a crappy apartment w/three other dudes. Its been 5 or so years since I've been out in SD but I remember the talent being pretty strong. But I live in DC, so yeah, thats not saying much.

You won't get any argument from me about the talent.

I think a large problem too is the large military population. There's just a massive over saturation of dudes. To top that off, all the guys that live in the barracks go out at night and blow all their money, buying girls drinks. They get massive amounts of attention.

The solution is, of course, to make the girls buy you drinks.

No argument there about all of the military guys blowing money and approaching with monkey style game. Young small town guys (now in the "big city") who are pent-up from military life=bad game. Obviously it's not all or just the military guys, but probably has something to do with chicks being on edge and the behavior I've observed. By the way, I'm one of those military people. I'm an officer and a bit older so no barracks living, and this is not my first rodeo here in SD.

[mbare]

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[thegmanifesto]

(11-18-2013 06:54 PM)mbare Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 06:11 PM)TroubleMaker Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 06:08 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

I dont know G - I think being the kind of SD can reap some pretty good talent. But in the strange way the city operates the king isnt the guy w/the money, style, or experience, its the guy who is wired to the local scene or is a promoter/DJ who dresses in flip flops and basketball jerseys and sharing a crappy apartment w/three other dudes. Its been 5 or so years since I've been out in SD but I remember the talent being pretty strong. But I live in DC, so yeah, thats not saying much.

You won't get any argument from me about the talent.

I think a large problem too is the large military population. There's just a massive over saturation of dudes. To top that off, all the guys that live in the barracks go out at night and blow all their money, buying girls drinks. They get massive amounts of attention.

The solution is, of course, to make the girls buy you drinks.

No argument there about all of the military guys blowing money and approaching with monkey style game. Young small town guys (now in the "big city") who are pent-up from military life=bad game. Obviously it's not all or just the military guys, but probably has something to do with chicks being on edge and the behavior I've observed. By the way, I'm one of those military people. I'm an officer and a bit older so no barracks living, and this is not my first rodeo here in SD.

I don't think the military guys are really the problem beyond the fact that they skew ratios.

Military guys are bottom of the totem pole, no offense mbare, as officers are different and you can't really tell they are military.

That being said if you are 22 years old in San Diego it is a pretty good place beyond what we have already talked about ie ratios, Police State, Logistics, un-feminine girls.

It is probably better than 95%-98% of America.

Quality of life is high.

It just is horrible when compared to Miami Beach or NYC or Las Vegas.

And if you are young, being trained on The West Coast Short Clock (early last call) is great for when you get older and turn Full Fledged International Playboy.

Plus you have these:

[pointbreak]

Extra guac?

[thegmanifesto]

(11-19-2013 01:41 PM)pointbreak Wrote:  

Extra guac?

F*ck yeah.

Huge Tub of Extra Guac.

Especially after a few huge rips and a sesh out here:

[Giovonny]

Now that I think about it..

If there was no Mexican Food...

The West Coast would suck!

Real estate values would crash!

The West Coast is only 2 things -- Weather and Mexican food!

I'm ready to take on New York and Miami!

[WestCoast]

^ I don't know what you mean by take on NYC.

For you literally "Just Land"

Quick tip, to save cash just take the bus from JFK to manhattan. Game solved.

I am glad the preference for Mexicans is also rubbing off on you Gio, if memory serves me right you've been finding the random mexicanas sprinkled around the colleges.

If all goes well next year will be the last I see of the shitty state of California. Layup city once you leave.

[Giovonny]

(11-19-2013 03:33 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ I don't know what you mean by take on NYC.

For you literally "Just Land"

Quick tip, to save cash just take the bus from JFK to manhattan. Game solved.

I am glad the preference for Mexicans is also rubbing off on you Gio, if memory serves me right you've been finding the random mexicanas sprinkled around the colleges.

If all goes well next year will be the last I see of the shitty state of California. Layup city once you leave.

Yes, I should say.. I can't wait to "land" in NYC so I can hit the streets of Manhattan and tell every girl that she looks nice with my California accent and slang.

Even though California can suck sometimes, I will still pretend that I am "The California Kid", just for gaming purposes, of course.

I never realized that California sucks until I started reading this from and hearing reports from other places.

As far as Mexicanas, yes, I have recently had success with an 18yo and a 20yo. They both told me that they prefer older men.

I'm looking forward to exploring other parts of the country.

[WestCoast]

^ yeah don't tell the NYC people you are leaving though just stick with you "just moved to NYC"

Other than that just land

[SDGuerro]

One other tip, go to the high end restaurant bars in the gaslamp for the slower nights. I've worked in a few and been surprised to see some of the single talent that rolls through. The places that are on the ground floor of luxury condos are the best. Plus, as the economy went down many of the high end restaurants introduced late night happy hours.

Another place that is sometimes surprisingly good is Hamiltons tavern in south park- more of the hipster crowd but sometimes diverse crowd and even if it's dead they have the best beer selection at good prices, plus pool and shuffleboard. It's a dive that occasionally has talent. The beers are also super strong so be careful and cab it, not worth the dui.

Another area that I've done good at is the university heights area around adams ave, park blvd area. Some of the bars that border hillcrest area are not bad and since there is the gay crowd you can find straight women that aren't even being approached all night. I've picked up in small bar on park, just had to dodge a few limp wrists.

Everyone is right about pb, just go there to get in a fist fight and or watch them.

The other venue that I didn't see mentioned is microbreweries. We have the most per capita in the country and many of them are great! They are turning into quite the scene with an affordable, trendy place to drink. Stone brewery in Escondido has ridiculous talent in the summer time and many of the other tasting rooms are often good. Check them out.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-20-2013 05:22 AM)SDGuerro Wrote:  

The other venue that I didn't see mentioned is microbreweries. We have the most per capita in the country and many of them are great! They are turning into quite the scene with an affordable, trendy place to drink. Stone brewery in Escondido has ridiculous talent in the summer time and many of the other tasting rooms are often good. Check them out.

Your right, however microbreweries suck for meeting girls.

Real good for meeting guys in flip flops though, if that is one's thing.

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Here is the each day in San Diego in Pictures:

All Dudes at beach


24/7 Police State


Surf


All guys in bars


Drink Sh*tty Microbrew


Snort Sh*tty Coke


Eat Mex (Extra Guac)


Get in a Fight


Get Arrested


Repeat.

[faznine15]

G PB and San Diego in general aint nearly as bad as you make it out to be. Especially comparing it to east coast sausage-fests.

SoCal in general has more girls in the "worth banging" category than most places on the East coast. Granted 80% wouldn't fall into the wife up category but still your average joe is probably going to have his world turned upside down.



This seemed to be a pretty honest gamut of what you'd see at the pool parties etc downtown or floating around the beach. Or at least for 2009 when I was last there. It's not feasible for a place to have nothing but girls that look the blonde in the center. However, on the east coast all but one of them would be fat.

I don't think that there is a huge surplus of dudes that you always mention but rather a lack of women willing to hook up with your average guy since the male competition is pretty top notch. Game or no game.

PB is full of jacked, tanned, salad eating male model wanna bees. I can't remember the last time I lived in a place where where so many dudes were sporting a 6-pack 365.

This has an obvious affect on the local women and their standards. They shift into harem mode where groups of women covet a small subset of guys. Girlfriends often commented about the abundance of "hot pb guys" .
I lived with one of these good looking naturals and saw this first hand the amount of pussy was rolling in nightly.

This causes the regular joes to go bat shit crazy for anything with tits that's left over. Watching the facebook feed of a average girl I know who just moved out there confirms this is still true. Joe smoe from indiana who moved to PB offering places to stay, rides to wherever, party invites etc.

So basically if you are all-ready a good looking guy who has the pussy rolling in, San Diego can be a goldmine. (you're probably already there double fisting some pacificos at Shore club and not on pickup forum) On the other hand, it's a tough place for guys anywhere on the scale lower than what women might consider and 8 unless you have some sort of status thing going on.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-20-2013 11:34 AM)faznine15 Wrote:  

G PB and San Diego in general aint nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

I think I am being pretty even handed.

I did say this above:

(11-19-2013 01:18 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

It is probably better than 95%-98% of America.

Quality of life is high.

All I am saying is it sucks compared to Miami, NYC, and Las Vegas. And LA (women category) for that matter.

Do the logistics suck? Yes

Is the Police State one of the worst? Yes

Are girls more on their cell phones than everywhere else out side of southern California? Yes

Do the girls where female board shorts instead of thongs? Yes

Do they wear flip flops and UGG boots instead of high heels? Yes

Is it ground zero for sleeve tattoos on girls? Yes

Is the last call horrible? Yes

Does the nightlife suck? Yes

Is it dominated by White Dork Dance Culture? Yes

Are the ratios horrible? Yes

(11-20-2013 11:34 AM)faznine15 Wrote:  

I don't think that there is a huge surplus of dudes that you always mention

Name one bar or club that has more girls than guys.

I also disagree with your suspect homoerotic comments about the males of Pacific Beach. But that is neither here nor there. That place is full of dorks.

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Let me take a wild guess:

Left in 2009 after living there 1-3 years?

Moved there from somewhere worse?

Am I warm?

Am I dead on?

Of course I am.

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Look, I killed it in San Diego. I am a former #1 in the entire city. There is no Bad Blood.

I wish I could give my credentials, but it would give away too much. Anyone who has lived in San Diego, can tell the way I write about the place that I know the place like the back of my hand.

My point is that there are better places to spend ones time with a higher return.

That is my personal experience.

It is great for surfing. The Racetrack is world class.

And it has these:



Extra Guac.

[faznine15]

I lived in San Diego for 5 years and moved out there to surf. Assimilation with California culture wasn't an issue I assure you. I lived with locals and ran in that scene. That lack of quality long term employment after I was laid off was. There is no arguing that fact.

I get how you are trying to peg me as some sort of transplant idiot who moved from the Midwest, spent all his time at Moodgoogies in PB, and only hung out with people from the same shitty town back east. I'm not surprised by this as the hyperlocalism and hubris among Southern Californians is off the charts. Care to disagree with that statement? Paddle out at blacks or windandsea and start ignoring the lineup and see if you can even count to ten before they start telling you what they think of LA.

Below are my thoughts on your last response.

Do the logistics suck? Yes
Agreed

Is the Police State one of the worst? Yes
To some extent yes. But this is California in general. The place has too many rules. However, you post some random pictures to act like the cops are out 24/7 which is by no means the case

Are girls more on their cell phones than everywhere else out side of southern California? Yes

I don't even know how you could quantify this. Let's just agree girls are on their phones everywhere

Do the girls where female board shorts instead of thongs? Yes
Never seen this once ever. The amount of thongs in I'm assuming Miami is overrated. You might see as many at the beach in SD when the Brazilians arrive every summer

Do they wear flip flops and UGG boots instead of high heels? Yes

Agree. It's the beach...

Is it ground zero for sleeve tattoos on girls? Yes

What part of California isn't these days?

Is the last call horrible? Yes

Agree

Is it dominated by White Dork Dance Culture? Yes

[/b]This makes me think you wasted to much time at Stingaree or Deccos. You favorite DC spots are about the same too. As with the ones you've dropped for Miami. Your favorite spots seem to be entirely dominated by "Minority Hip-Hop Bottle Service Culture" which I have no interest in and I agree are severely under represented in San Diego.[/b]


We could go on and on but at what point. I get the idea that we have entirely different perceptions of the same place based on our lifestyles and interests(sounds like surfing is prolly the only thing we share in common).

At the end of the day I agree with you that it's a great place to surf, has banging carne asada burritos, excellent weather, but disagree with your assessment of why the girls there are the way they are.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-20-2013 02:07 PM)faznine15 Wrote:  

I lived in San Diego for 5 years and moved out there to surf.

Pretty much hit the bulleye's blindfolded, didn't I?

Quote:

That lack of quality long term employment after I was laid off was.

You and 99% of the people that move there and get put thru the woodchipper.

Could have guessed that one blindfolded as well.

Quote:

I'm not surprised by this as the hyperlocalism and hubris among Southern Californians is off the charts. Care to disagree with that statement? Paddle out at blacks or windandsea and start ignoring the lineup and see if you can even count to ten before they start telling you what they think of LA.

Agreed 100%

I was still 100% correct though.

Quote:

Are girls more on their cell phones than everywhere else out side of southern California? Yes

I don't even know how you could quantify this. Let's just agree girls are on their phones everywhere

Traveled all over America and a decent portion of the world.

Southern California is the most.

Shouldn't come as a surprise to the logical or the well-traveled, since its America's leader in technology.

Quote:

Do the girls where female board shorts instead of thongs? Yes
Never seen this once ever. The amount of thongs in I'm assuming Miami is overrated.

Assuming wrong.

I go to the beach twice a day.

Girls wear thongs in Miami. Even surf in thongs.

Quote:

Is the Police State one of the worst? Yes
To some extent yes. But this is California in general. The place has too many rules.

Shows lack of knowledge of California.

San Diego is currently and historically much more strict than LA or SF.

You are really starting to airball here.

Quote:

Do they wear flip flops and UGG boots instead of high heels? Yes

Agree. It's the beach...

Shows lack of travel.

Monaco is the beach too. No UGG boots. Yes High Heels.

Miami is the beach too. No UGG boots. Yes High Heels.

Spain is the beach too. No UGG boots. Yes High Heels.

etc
etc
etc

Quote:

[/b]This makes me think you wasted to much time at Stingaree or Deccos. [/b]

Stepped foot in Deccos once for a Charity event. I think that place has been closed for years.

(Your lack of knowledge shines throughout).

Sting, maybe 20-30 times.

Not my scene (mostly for reasons I can't disclose).

Wrong again.

Quote:

As with the ones you've dropped for Miami. Your favorite spots seem to be entirely dominated by "Minority Hip-Hop Bottle Service Culture" which I have no interest in and I agree are severely under represented in San Diego.

Where?

I never go to a club with "Minority Hip-Hop Bottle Service Culture".

Not once.

And this is just a stupid and ignorant statement. It is obvious you know nothing of Miami.

"Minority" in Miami would either be Black or White. I am sure you ment the former.

Wrong again.

Ducking my questions did not go unnoticed.

I already knew the answer to this one:

Quote:

Moved there from somewhere worse?

Thanks for confirming.

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This is what happens when you try to argue with someone about two places but you only (sort of) know one.

And the other knows both.

You get humiliated every time.

Anyone else want to get wrecked?


Extra Guac.

[el mechanico]

G, not a dig at you but by the way you write I'm going to assume you got arrested in California and had to wait until your probation was over to move?

[pointbreak]

Who even surfs in Miami, except for the occasional pre-hurricane choppy swell?
Or are you talking about the typical tourist who wants to tell her friends she surfed so she rents a softop and paddles out in completely flat conditions?
I'm talking swimming pool flat.

PS lol at the extra guac

[Christian McQueen]

G is like Mayweather.

Undefeated with Forum Beatdowns.

[zatara]

I spent a year in San Diego and thoroughly enjoyed it. Smoked weed, surfed, hungout with pretty blonde American surfer girls. Was pretty solid.

I can see some of the negatives though:

- Logistics suck, no public transport worth speaking of
- The last call. Getting told to finish up drinks at 0130 I think it was? Absolutely bloody ridiculous
- Rent is through the roof anywhere close to the beach
- Ratios aren't good in bars
- Cops are dicks. Appear drunk in any way in public and they'll do you if they can

It is what is though - a relaxed surfer town. If you're going to the bars full of 21 year old marines or the wanna-be-preppy-but-failing Gaslamp bars you're doing it wrong. You should be at surfer house parties in PB or Mission Beach or crashing college parties in La Jolla.

I've partied in Ibiza, Miami, NYC, Dubai, London, Bangkok and most other big 'party' cities you can think of. You're not really comparing like with like comparing them to San Diego. Yes they're all more glamorous but none of them have the same chill vibe. Or surfing. It's apples and oranges.

Better comparisons would be surf towns on the Atlantic coast of Portugal or France, or the Gold Coast in Australia. Compared to any of these San Diego is fantastic.

Basically, if you want to go to the best nightclubs in the world full of models in dresses and high heels absolutely go to NYC or Miami or wherever. But if you're in your mid 20s, in good shape and like the beach lifestyle I can't really think of many places I'd rather spend a month chilling than San Diego. You can even fit in a couple weekends to Vegas to get the clubbing out of your system, in between house parties with beach bunnies.

[TheBMan]

The only thing in life better then extra guac is $2 you call its at Moondoggies.

[one-two]

Quote:

Or are you talking about the typical tourist who wants to tell her friends she surfed so she rents a softop and paddles out in completely flat conditions?

Damn it, that's me.

[mbare]

G,

I'm catching back up on this... Very funny and insightful things you wrote throughout this thread. It really is spot on.

As G and others have pointed out, where your from, and where you've been, play a big roll in your opinion for anything and everything. It's forms your world view. For others on this forum who are trying to figure out if they want to visit/game/move here I'll give my brief story.

My first impression of SD/states: I'm used to going out late, so got out around midnight. Just as I was starting to get the night going, every place was doing last call and turning on lights. It was 130. Cops were swarming every place I went, saw fights every night, had to drive through check points. My first 2 weeks, when I had time off, I went out alone and just observed. Personally I really enjoy rolling solo...I did in Europe at least. It was difficult as hell to talk to anyone. Just drunk idiots (guys and girls) everywhere.

McQueen, I like your style and what you've wrote regarding gaming women. Although I have a very nice place/car.. things like that, I'll never be dropping 10k in some place. Most people don't have the connections you do, so they can't use your advise for this particular city. But the rest of your game advise is rock solid, so that of course can be used anywhere. Luckily I have logistics on my side...I'm not far from anything. I also don't have strong contacts yet, and my job now doesn't allow me to go out nearly as often as it did in Europe.

As for others, good luck and post as you find good places or thoughts. SDGuerro put some solid places to check out. And as others have said, it's great in many regards, but does disappoint in other key areas. This place is a police state, but it seems america in general is going that way compared to how most of Europe is. It's truly a shame. Again, never went to Miami.