[ballsyamog]

I just read a great post on how and why nice guys never succeed with beautiful women

http://www.braddocksblog.com/nice-guys-y...everender/

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

Why the double post?

[ballsyamog]

My bad, posted on my phone

[Basil Ransom]

I agree with the second half, but the first half is just regurgitated whore logic to justify fucking non-nice guys (which is whatever, just don't lie about it). Whores like to think nice guys are secretly manipulative passive aggressive douchebags. And while that's true for a few, it's otherwise way off base. Again, it's just a way for whores to pat themselves on the back. 'If he was a genuinely nice guy, of course I'd want to sleep with him. But none of those nice guys are actually nice.'

Uh huh. Yeah....

[storm]

It would be really nice to get a more PC version of this

[jroseland]

"Here's how I see the nice guy dynamic in attraction. You can be a nice guy as long as you are doing enough other things to be an attractive man..."
Lifehack: How to be a 'nice guy' but get laid like a Asshole

[robreke]

I'm finding there's a line between being a "non nice guy/ alpha" and a sleaze for lack of a better word. I totally do not consider myself a sleaze.....but of course no one would say that about themselves.

The reason I say this is I had a date with a girl this week who was somewhat attracted to me and I brought her to where I was staying. I kept trying to escalate despite her non reciprocity. I truly think she just wanted to get to know me better....but I've been reading so much lately on how you need to for a first date bang....that that's what I did. I should have backed off....had nice conversation...and let her come into kino in her own time.

I think I pushed too much/kept touching , trying to hold her hand....trying to kiss her....and she was just wanting to talk ( it was our first date) that I fucked it up and perhaps came across and sleazy.

From now on...I'm going to be much more attuned to calibration even if the girl does agree to come back to my place. No need on fucking something up when it may take 2 - 4 dates for a fuck instead of one.

So, while I agree you shouldn't come across as a nice guy and show the girl what you want....you also should know where to put on the brakes and talk/get to know her if that's what it's obvious she wants to do. Oh well, I'm learning and .....lesson learned.

[robreke]

(06-20-2014 03:05 PM)robreke Wrote:  

I'm finding there's a line between being a "non nice guy/ alpha" and a sleaze for lack of a better word. I totally do not consider myself a sleaze.....but of course no one would say that about themselves.

The reason I say this is I had a date with a girl this week who was somewhat attracted to me and I brought her to where I was staying. I kept trying to escalate despite her non reciprocity. I truly think she just wanted to get to know me better....but I've been reading so much lately on how you need to for a first date bang....that that's what I did. I should have backed off....had nice conversation...and let her come into kino in her own time.

I think I pushed too much/kept touching , trying to hold her hand....trying to kiss her....and she was just wanting to talk ( it was our first date) that I fucked it up and perhaps came across and sleazy.
Mind you....I did stop when she didn't reciprocate or was obviously not interested.....but I would try again 2 -5 minutes later. I did this a few times....as I probably should have just ceased and chatted with her.

From now on...I'm going to be much more attuned to calibration even if the girl does agree to come back to my place. No need on fucking something up when it may take 2 - 4 dates for a fuck instead of one.

So, while I agree you shouldn't come across as a nice guy and show the girl what you want....you also should know where to put on the brakes and talk/get to know her if that's what it's obvious she wants to do. Oh well, I'm learning and .....lesson learned.

[Virtus]

Abandon thread. It will make you retarded