Quote: (12-01-2012 12:31 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:
Here's my hypothesis:
She will NOT be able to understand the situation where you are as a simple result of market forces because of higher percentage of hot women.
Instead, she will take it as a moral affront to her personally, and think that someone somewhere is doing something WRONG because she is not getting hte attention she wants.
Let's see.
That is generally true. Once they realize that they are becoming invisible is the moment the wheels kick in again and they frame the situation as you being a pervert who is using local talent because you can't get laid back home. Or some such derivative of that.
However, again, that too is mostly applicable to more tourist-trail Asian destination, and not to professional western women in working cities. As much as any western womant is a highly unreasonable being, deep down inside her she knows that she can't use that particular delusion in a in gritty Chinese shithole where her western professional male colleagues are there for professional work to begin with (not for solely for fun and pussy). See the difference. That is what's to her is most painful about it. She eventually realizes that local women are prettier and have nicer personalities than her, and that there's a never ending supply of them, and that overall cultural dynamic benefits men, not women, and that she can't compete in that environment on any level whatsoever. This is where the soul crushing realization comes. Defeat being final and complete.
So the only western-on-western action may happen in trendy night clubs in large cosmopolitan cities (Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo) - and even there it is more often than not a hot Russian 8 or 9 (or some other continental European cuties) that gets it for a single night. And even then a random westerner will never commit to a relationship with a western woman simply because that would be too darn stupid considering where he is. It just isn't being done.
The only hope for more proper relationship is afforded to freshly off the boat North American English college graduates/female teachers whose western male counterparts are either brand new in China too, or are in their last months of their teaching contract and who then try and use that as a bridge to continued relationship when both are back in Canada or the States).
Quote: (11-30-2012 11:38 PM)scotian Wrote:
I'm slowly warming up to Thai women..., although I"m not sure if I'll ever get the full on "yellow fever", I can understand how so many guys do.
I have been critical of my Thai experience/women in my other controversial thread, and I think you may be more like me in some regards. I could also extend plenty of criticizing to China, however, the point is that your lack of yellow fever in Thailand will not necessary preclude you from getting infected with one when and if you ever get to live in China/Japan/Korea (and get off the western tourist trail) So, yes, frankly I think you are in wrong place for true yellow fever.
Quote: (12-01-2012 01:03 AM)CrazyBoy Wrote:
There's an article on this here:
Western women 'invisible' in Asia?
Wow, that article may as well being written by me!
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How did you find it, did you Google for "invisible western women" or something?
I love this part:
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"After all, do we blame the gourmet traveler for sipping champagne when in Champagne?"
I know that some more attuned western women who are there long term try to be open to local men because they realize it's either them or nothing, but if and when they do more often than not the whole things end up as a disaster, or it doesn't take off at all.
For one thing, when it comes to relationships western women are naturally demanding (even in small details). There's a whole unwritten subconscious list of things a man needs to trigger in her in order for her to feel comfortable in proceeding to the next level. So imagine how difficult is to trigger these with men that she is not attracted to by default. Men who are often (but not always) smaller than her. Imagine a big boned Helga from Germany whose tits alone weight more than half of body weight of her prospective Chinese boyfriend and you will get the picture how often comical reality on the ground is for her.
That said, in my opinion some Chinese men, a lot more in northern parts, can be quite cute/good looking. Especially the college age generation. Some of them are easily as tall as average westerner, they are fashionably slender, can be muscle-toned, and have that childish faux-cool vibe about them. However, this is only the physical aspect. The cultural differences are so vast that it's a tremendous uphill battle. For one, there's a language issue. Then there's a matter of social intelligence for parties for whom that understanding is predicated on two completely different sets of rules and expectations: one being domain of "sunset", other of "sunrise" culture.
Guys, do not underestimate how big cultural differences are! The schism is so deep it makes Grand Canyon seem like a creek. So we can see why the whole "project" between western women and local men may be of hopeless nature to start. And even if rare western women plow through all these natural and cultural differences/challenges what do they get in return? Likely a sloppy, unsatisfying fuck? (and this is never enough for her - as her buttons need to be pushed on all sorts of sides) And the morning-after reality that quickly puts her back into the state of soul crushing numbness.
And if there are a handful of western women who do get regular action from local men (China is a huge place, we have to allow for that possibility) it is likely that they completely metamorphosed into some new, hybrid beings best described as non-themselves. That is, they may become more manly, digging out and becoming comfortable with their aggressive, dominant side, completely derailing into farcical "mommy dominatrix" modes of their own sexual representation.
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