[ManAbout]

(11-26-2012 12:12 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Now, with that said, having a "relationship" with young girl and having an affair with her are two different things. A relationship means she has to integrate you into her life, much more difficult because of family and friends etc.

I think this is what chochemonger is referring to. It's much easier to have a relationship with a much younger girl outside of the anglosphere. In the the US, Canada etc. a lot of girls are open and even get off on sleeping with older guys, but are more comfortable having relationships with guys within a 5 year range because of societal pressure.

[Parlay44]

If a girl's parents had her when they were older then her image of an ideal man will be older.

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

Status, money, power, and showing off the older guy may be good reasons why some young women prefer way older dudes but I think the real reason may be rooted in the psychological aspect. Perhaps a great majority of these women never got enough attention from their fathers when they were younger and now have "daddy issues". Maybe they go after these older guys as a surrogate father to make up for the attention lost when they were younger. Think about it for a second. These older guys normally give them lots of attention, pamper them with gifts, and generally dont put up with too much of their shit, which is normally how dads treat their daughters at a much younger ages. Some sick form of Oedipus complex maybe?

[Giovonny]

(11-26-2012 12:53 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

I know some 18 year olds who openly admit to me that they prefer 40ish year old men.

Seriously?!?! They told you that? Where are you located? Are these college friends of yours?

I'll be 37 soon. I just banged an 18yo a few days ago. I have another date with a different 18yo this week. I have a 19yo in my funnel.

Half the 18/19 year olds I talk to think I'm to old. The other half give me a legit chance to bang!

[RCron]

I'm 41 and in my limited experience with gaming younger women (late teens, early 20's) a lot of them are very open to having sex with an older man and almost seem to view it as their version of a "notch". However I agree with the others here that developing a traditional dating relationship with them is a completely different ballgame.

That's ok, I don't mind being used by them!

[chochemonger1]

(11-26-2012 01:42 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 01:02 AM)poutsara Wrote:  

I would say girls prefer guys who are well-traveled, confident, successful, experienced, have game, are in shape, etc. This stuff builds with age as long as you stay in shape. If you already are all of this when you are 25, you are going to be all this and more at 35 and so on.

See, with girls under 25 I don't think a lot of this this applies at all. I have found that girls under 25 are pretty much only interested in how 'cool' you are and how much fun you are.

I'm a newb so haven't gone through loads yet but these are definitely my findings, the average 22 year old couldnt give a flying one what countries you've been to, what business you own etc. The one exception would be if you've been 'travelling' say in Thailand or cambodia, even then its only a certani, university educated, element that are intrigued.

Obviously game, being in shape etc counts, but the other factors? not so sure...

Lush1 for a supposedly newb you are very wise about young American women. American older men over 35 with game talk about still doing well with young college age girls. But it will never be like certain other countries, where all I banged were girls under 24. I even refused girls over 25, even if they were attractive. That is the reality and banging 2 or 3 new young 20 somethings a year doesnt cut it for me anymore. I know most men can´t travel all the time or leave the States, so I admire their persistence with young American women. But if you can get out, a whole new mindset will open up to you.

[Parlay44]

(11-26-2012 04:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 12:53 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

I know some 18 year olds who openly admit to me that they prefer 40ish year old men.

Seriously?!?! They told you that? Where are you located? Are these college friends of yours?

I'll be 37 soon. I just banged an 18yo a few days ago. I have another date with a different 18yo this week. I have a 19yo in my funnel.

Half the 18/19 year olds I talk to think I'm to old. The other half give me a legit chance to bang!

You gotta keep it light and fun. Try to avoid the creepy vibe. Make 'em laugh.

[Jackhammer]

I just hooked up with an 18 year old last night that I met at the gym. No sex, but we made out in the back of my car. She's pretty cool and has the greatest white-girl booty I've seen in awhile, but goddamn it, I have no idea what to do with this girl if she can't get into bars or clubs.

[Giovonny]

(11-26-2012 05:03 PM)Jackhammer Wrote:  

I have no idea what to do with this girl if she can't get into bars or clubs.

Pizza, tv, alcohol + your couch.

= Bang

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14257-...#pid238913

[pitt]

(11-26-2012 04:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 12:53 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

I know some 18 year olds who openly admit to me that they prefer 40ish year old men.

Seriously?!?! They told you that? Where are you located? Are these college friends of yours?

I'll be 37 soon. I just banged an 18yo a few days ago. I have another date with a different 18yo this week. I have a 19yo in my funnel.

Half the 18/19 year olds I talk to think I'm to old. The other half give me a legit chance to bang!

You 37 soon? Damn i dont know why, but your posts make you sound younger (not young as inexperienced because i think you are one of the most intelligent cats on here, more in spirit i guess)...you may need to start thinking about moving to other markets soon, im surprised you are still banging 18,19 year olds in the US.

[Parlay44]

Giovanny You and I are about the same age and obviously have the same taste in younger prettier women.
We need to roll out one night and get in some trouble.

[WestCoast]

Gio and I continue to hang out off and on I'll say this:

1. Stay the fuck in shape. We went to the gym, this guy is not a joke in there. I have taken other guys to the gym in low 20 range through my routines and they all bitched out after 45 mins. He finished and went to hoop after. Get in the gym guys.

Having a body = shaves 3+ years off your perceived age

2. Day game. Here is where he is still helping me get into a grove, it's getting easier, however this also elongates your player career. Alcohol = only in possible bang scenarios.

Gio looks 28-30 range. People forget this. My co worker is 35... He looks 45 and would get crushed in the bar scene by someone like Gio because they would blow him out on perceived age based on looks alone.

Bit of a weird dynamic we have going, I'm helping him get into different pools and he's helping me avoid my usual night game ONS game so it continues to be a win win. Longer life span in game = more fun.

Not sure if WEDO reads this but meeting him changed my outlook as well. The places Wedo goes to, I will get out pulled by him or someone in the 30+ range (again looks wise). So I took note, went to a 18-20 age bracket area and crushed it.

Effectively, you want to be one notch above their bracket in perceived age. In college campus you want to look like a senior in college or low end grad student. When you hit real life, most guys have a hard time to game because your competition is 30+ with shit together. So find your pool where you're just a notch above and you'll be fine.

Of course you can continue to find young girls at any age, just trying to help people find the sweet spot.

[chochemonger1]

(11-26-2012 06:41 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Gio and I continue to hang out off and on I'll say this:

1. Stay the fuck in shape. We went to the gym, this guy is not a joke in there. I have taken other guys to the gym in low 20 range through my routines and they all bitched out after 45 mins. He finished and went to hoop after. Get in the gym guys.

Having a body = shaves 3+ years off your perceived age

2. Day game. Here is where he is still helping me get into a grove, it's getting easier, however this also elongates your player career. Alcohol = only in possible bang scenarios.

Gio looks 28-30 range. People forget this. My co worker is 35... He looks 45 and would get crushed in the bar scene by someone like Gio because they would blow him out on perceived age based on looks alone.

Bit of a weird dynamic we have going, I'm helping him get into different pools and he's helping me avoid my usual night game ONS game so it continues to be a win win. Longer life span in game = more fun.

Not sure if WEDO reads this but meeting him changed my outlook as well. The places Wedo goes to, I will get out pulled by him or someone in the 30+ range (again looks wise). So I took note, went to a 18-20 age bracket area and crushed it.

Effectively, you want to be one notch above their bracket in perceived age. In college campus you want to look like a senior in college or low end grad student. When you hit real life, most guys have a hard time to game because your competition is 30+ with shit together. So find your pool where you're just a notch above and you'll be fine.

Of course you can continue to find young girls at any age, just trying to help people find the sweet spot.

Being perceived as younger is always a good thing, but in the US it is essential. As certain well known posters have said Shrek and busted looking dudes are doing fine with better quality in other countries.

[poutsara]

(11-26-2012 01:42 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 01:02 AM)poutsara Wrote:  

I would say girls prefer guys who are well-traveled, confident, successful, experienced, have game, are in shape, etc. This stuff builds with age as long as you stay in shape. If you already are all of this when you are 25, you are going to be all this and more at 35 and so on.

See, with girls under 25 I don't think a lot of this this applies at all. I have found that girls under 25 are pretty much only interested in how 'cool' you are and how much fun you are....

Fair enough.

[Deluge]

(11-26-2012 04:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 12:53 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

I know some 18 year olds who openly admit to me that they prefer 40ish year old men.

Seriously?!?! They told you that? Where are you located? Are these college friends of yours?

I'll be 37 soon. I just banged an 18yo a few days ago. I have another date with a different 18yo this week. I have a 19yo in my funnel.

Half the 18/19 year olds I talk to think I'm to old. The other half give me a legit chance to bang!

Seriously. Girls I went to school with and an ex. Like I said, there are probably more out there who either aren't open about the preference or wouldn't mind if the opportunity came up. I said some, way way way less than half.

Edit: (I forgot, one cute super high achiever nerd asian girl I went to school with told me that she fantasised all the time about blowing her bearded, 40 something English teacher. Her friends knew that she wanted him and would tease her about it whenever he came up in conversation.)

David Tennant off Doctor Who gets crazy love from certain subsections of young girls (nerdy girls and those artsy girls who use tumblr a lot) so the tweed young professor look might be worth thinking about.

If you wanna see what I mean with young girls and older men go on Facebook and search up the "Confessions" pages of nearby universities. You'll see quite a few girls sending anonymous confessions about having crushes on professors, and occasionally even fighting over them in the comments.

[starmaze]

(11-26-2012 05:59 PM)pitt Wrote:  

[quote] (11-26-2012 04:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I know some 18 year olds who openly admit to me that they prefer 40ish year old men.

Seriously?!?! They told you that? Where are you located? Are these college friends of yours?

I'll be 37 soon. I just banged an 18yo a few days ago. I have another date with a different 18yo this week. I have a 19yo in my funnel.

Half the 18/19 year olds I talk to think I'm to old. The other half give me a legit chance to bang!

Quote:

You 37 soon? Damn i dont know why, but your posts make you sound younger (not young as inexperienced because i think you are one of the most intelligent cats on here, more in spirit i guess)...you may need to start thinking about moving to other markets soon, im surprised you are still banging 18,19 year olds in the US.

I assume you are very young and this is why you think 37 is so old. In fact, many girls think 35- 40 is the best age for men. I am 35 ( i am told i look 28-30 most of the time) and get much more glances from girls than 10 years ago. Of course its important to stay in shape. I cut from 23% body fat to 13% , I lost much of my facial fat and got my abs to show. There are some men that lose thier looks very soon, they have their peak in their ealry 20s and then go downhill. On the other side many omen have their peak in their mid or even late thirties and there are some that look the best in their 40s. Gens are also important factor.

Look at Johnny Depp. He was 46 on this picture below and was considered hottest man in the world in 2009 by vast majority of girls including young ones- 17-18 years old.

[Screwston]

I think guys usually look better when they're grown men (30+) compared to their early 20's ONLY if they stay in shape, take care of their face, etc. Women are in their prime in their early age but guys take some time really mature later on. Some look older at an early age but those are the ones that usually look horrible in their 30's and 40's. Maybe I'm just saying that because I look so young. I love it but also can't wait to see how I look in 10 or 15 years when I actually stop looking like a boy. I think looking like you're in your late 20's or maybe early 30's would be the perfect spot if you want the most amount of girls.

I don't get why so many girls like Johnny Depp. He looks soft to me.

[Giovonny]

(11-26-2012 05:59 PM)pitt Wrote:  

You 37 soon? Damn i dont know why, but your posts make you sound younger

Yes, I'm 37. However, I have discovered the fountain of youth..

18yo pussy!!!

Seriously! That stuff makes me feel so young and vibrant!

(11-26-2012 04:57 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

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Giovanny You and I are about the same age and obviously have the same taste in younger prettier women.
We need to roll out one night and get in some trouble.

I hope you do day game because I don't go out at night. I'm 100% day game.

(11-27-2012 01:16 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

If you wanna see what I mean with young girls and older men go on Facebook and search up the "Confessions" pages of nearby universities.

Thanks. I'm gonna read some of those.

Starmaze!

You're back..any updates on your day gaming adventures?

[chochemonger1]

(11-27-2012 01:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 05:59 PM)pitt Wrote:  

You 37 soon? Damn i dont know why, but your posts make you sound younger

Yes, I'm 37. However, I have discovered the fountain of youth..

18yo pussy!!!

Seriously! That stuff makes me feel so young and vibrant!

(11-26-2012 04:57 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

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Giovanny You and I are about the same age and obviously have the same taste in younger prettier women.
We need to roll out one night and get in some trouble.

I hope you do day game because I don't go out at night. I'm 100% day game.

(11-27-2012 01:16 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

If you wanna see what I mean with young girls and older men go on Facebook and search up the "Confessions" pages of nearby universities.

Thanks. I'm gonna read some of those.

Starmaze!

You're back..any updates on your day gaming adventures?

Giovonny, you should go give a lesson about young pussy in the Naughty Nomad Thread. You teach it better than I lol

[ABDada]

I'm not sure why people are confused about this topic at all.

A man's age is IRRELEVANT to women. If a woman asks my age, she's shit testing, that's IT.

She: "How old are you?"

Me: "Why? Are you afraid your friends will judge you?" (frame change: I put her on the spot)

She: "Maybe..."

Me: "Ever think that maybe they're not good enough to attract successful men?" (frame acceleration: she's not good enough, she only attracts losers, she only attracts boys).

This works magic, and it ends the debate, gives you frame back, top hand.

[aphelion]

(11-27-2012 02:49 PM)ABDada Wrote:  

I'm not sure why people are confused about this topic at all.

A man's age is IRRELEVANT to women. If a woman asks my age, she's shit testing, that's IT.

She: "How old are you?"

Me: "Why? Are you afraid your friends will judge you?" (frame change: I put her on the spot)

She: "Maybe..."

Me: "Ever think that maybe they're not good enough to attract successful men?" (frame acceleration: she's not good enough, she only attracts losers, she only attracts boys).

This works magic, and it ends the debate, gives you frame back, top hand.

[Giovonny]

(11-27-2012 02:42 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Giovonny, you should go give a lesson about young pussy in the Naughty Nomad Thread. You teach it better than I lol

I'd be happy to. What thread is it?

Link?

[I'mWaitingForTheMan]

pitt Wrote:
You 37 soon? Damn i dont know why, but your posts make you sound younger

Yes, I'm 37. However, I have discovered the fountain of youth..

18yo pussy!!!

Seriously! That stuff makes me feel so young and vibrant!

(Yesterday 05:57 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:
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Giovanny You and I are about the same age and obviously have the same taste in younger prettier women.
We need to roll out one night and get in some trouble.

I hope you do day game because I don't go out at night. I'm 100% day game.

(Today 02:16 AM)P Dog Wrote:
"If you wanna see what I mean with young girls and older men go on Facebook and search up the "Confessions" pages of nearby universities.

Thanks. I'm gonna read some of those.

Starmaze!

You're back..any updates on your day gaming adventures?"
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I am not surprised in the least Gio is banging 18yr old American girls. I can tell just by reading his posts he knows exactly what he is talking about and that he is a certified type A personality that young girls love. Plus I think he has the Mediterranean vibe going on. (Are you italian or hispanic? Or at least that's the assumption I was under.) Combine that with all his teaching experience that's fucking golden. I believe you say you look younger than 37 also? Shit is money with those wide eyed 18-21 yr olds.

With his life experience they have no chance. I can tell dude is extra charismatic by his posts.

[Giovonny]

I'll be 37 in a few months. I'm half latin/half white. (Spanish/Mexican/French/Austrian)

I can pass for 29-30. I'm a health nut. I don't drink. I don't go out. I go to bed early. I'm obsessed with anti aging.

I will admit, Pulling 18 year olds is not easy. I have to approach 20-40 in order to get a bang. But, I approach a few everyday, so, I can approach 40 in a week or 2. It's basically all a big numbers game. If I approach enough girls, I will eventually find one who is attracted to me and open to hanging out.

Some girls look at me and think I look 40, other look at me and think I look 25. It just depends on the girl, the day, how much I've slept, my clothes, hair, etc.

I think the biggest thing here that guys don't realize is this...

Many younger girls fantasize about being with an older man. THIS IS A VERY COMMON FEMALE FANTASY!

I will bang young girls for as long as I can. I know I have a few good years left. When I stop getting results, I will adjust.

(11-27-2012 03:44 PM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:  

I can tell dude is extra charismatic by his posts.

I have worked very hard on my charisma. I have studied charisma. I have observed and been mentored by charismatic men. I have studied playboys, preachers, cult leaders, coaches, executives, pimps, actors, comedians, etc.

I made it my mission in life to become charismatic.

I have learned that the biggest obstacle between a man and charisma is FEAR.

I strive to eliminate all fear from my mind!

When fear is gone, charisma flows!!!

[ABDada]

I backed off of drinking big time 2 years ago. Big time. Now I stick to high end Scotch whisky, and maybe no more than once or twice a month -- and only a finger or three.

Many of my friends have said I look younger today (38 almost 39) than I did at 34.

I don't pull 19 year olds constantly, but I still get tons of pressure from them when I interact. Plus, when I travel (Europe, Latin America), it's always the young ones that approach me, never those over 25, god-forbid 30.

Alcohol ages the hell out of skin, but it can be undone. I do like getting a tan year-round at the beach, so that does age me somewhat, but it also makes me look much more foreign.