[Willy Wonka]

Alright, so here's the dilemma.... this chick that I've been on a couple of dates with and kind of like (Crush Chronicles pt 1&2 on my blog) is having a birthday party tonight.

I haven't fucked yet.

On our first date, she mentioned her birthday coming up and said she wanted to do bottle service at one of the clubs, but didn't know which one. After talking about it some more, she invited me, I assume, by saying, "Are you going to come when I do bottle service for my birthday?" I avoided the question by being vague, because I didn't know when/where it would be yet or what else I would be doing, or if I would even still be talking to her a week and a half later.

On date two, when she was over my house, she told me all about where she was going to do the bottle service, what night and why she chose that club, etc, but didn't implicitly invite me. I didn't think nothing of it at the time, but I kind of figured I'd get at least some kind of text/call invite before the party tonight. That hasn't happened.

I don't even know if I would want to go or not, the only reason I would want to go is she would probably be drunk, and we'd dance and she'd be grinding on me and she'd get a little horny and I could potentially fuck. But, then she could also be with her group of friends who won't be getting any tonight, who would probably try to cockblock all attempts I would make I coming over afterwards and I could possibly get nothing anyway. Or the situation could be even worse and she could have not implicitly invited me because there could be some other dude that's trying to get at her that's already coming, or her ex is in town, and he could be there or whatever.

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I also find it possible, that because she told me when/where it is that maybe she thinks she already invited me and if I don't show I'm could get some text tomorrow like, "where were you last night?"

There's plenty of shit going on tonight, so I could just hit up some other places and try to swoop something else and deal with trying to take her on a third date and banging her later next week or next weekend even... what do y'all think?

[Kona]

Did she mention who'll be paying for the bottle service?

I stay clear of girls on their birthdays.

Maybe you should wait until later in the evening and then show up. Be sure to be outside burning when the bill comes.

Of course every girl wants to get laid on their birthday, but it's also a big day for them to grab hand-outs.

Aloha!

[Willy Wonka]

It seemed like she'd be paying for the bottle service....but then again, it is her birthday, so her friends could try to pitch in or whatever.

Yeah, if I was there, I'd definitely be mysteriously absent when the bill came around.

That's actually another reason not to go, if her friend's started chipping in on the bill, even if she wouldn't say shit, one of them would probably having something to say, "girl, he didn't even try to offer to pay for anything" or some shit. Girls friend's are usually wack, and I'm sure hers are no exception. I usually try my best to avoid hanging out with girls and their friends until after I've already been beating it up for awhile.

[Kona]

I see a lot of those bottle service deals normally including Red Bull.

Girls are usually yap more than usual on their birthdays. If she has 3 or 4 Red Bulls in her she may drive you crazy.

Again, she's probably looking for an easy lay on her birthday, but she may be up all night bouncing off your walls.

Maybe that's another reason to sit this one out?

Aloha!

[The_CEO]

i think... the fact that mentioned twice to you means that she was trying to give you a hint without scaring you with a full blown invite or something.

so i think you could safely go, if you want.

or as kona said, skip it and catch her on the flip side (date #3)

[thegmanifesto]

Kona is a veteran.

"I stay clear of girls on their birthdays. "

That is one of my cardinal rules. Too many other guys, girls trying to get her attention, spotlight on her etc etc etc.

Fight another day.

[UgSlayer]

Go for the free booze. Don't bring any money. Treat it like any other night out.

Have fun, but don't pay too much extra attention to her. She's going to bombarded with it from 394983 directions.

If you want, you can continue gaming her at the end of the night, but logistics are not in your favor, as her friends will probably be extra cock-blockey.

Flirt with other chicks.

[Willy Wonka]

I wound up not going to her party. Just decided to hang out with a few friends and chill and game girls in the street solo (my friends had their GF's with them, so I was the single guy leaving the group approaching various women, lol.)

Anyway, back to this chick, I'm trying to think of a 3rd date... I'm thinking something maybe a Saturday afternoon date, something outdoors like the zoo or putt-putt golf or something like that. Any good third date ideas?

First date was a Thurs night at a bar - got a couple kisses.
2nd date was a Tues night dinner/movie at my place - got make out sessions, neck licking, ass and boob grabbing, no clothes came off though.
3rd date - I'm trying to get what she got in between her legs!

[thegmanifesto]

"Any good third date ideas?"

Do something that is booze heavy.

[UgSlayer]

and closer to night time. I can count on one hand the number of times I've laid a chick for the first time during a daytime/afternoon date. I'm a big fan of after dinner drinks. Ask her what time she's having dinner then suggest a meet up about an hour or so after.

The freaks come out at night.

[thegmanifesto]

'I can count on one hand the number of times I've laid a chick for the first time during a daytime/afternoon date."

Day Dates can be decent for blowers/shakers on a secluded beach or a park.

[Willy Wonka]

(03-21-2010 08:15 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

and closer to night time. I can count on one hand the number of times I've laid a chick for the first time during a daytime/afternoon date. I'm a big fan of after dinner drinks. Ask her what time she's having dinner then suggest a meet up about an hour or so after.

The freaks come out at night.

I understand what you're saying, but that was the first date already... so I feel like I already did that with her - the drinks at a chill bar after dinner.

I'm a big fan of the after dinner drinks too.. but we did that on date one, I'm just trying to think of what else we can do.

I guess I could mix it up and do an activity like pool, or bowling or even dave n busters or something... where it's still a night date and there's still drinks there.
Although bowling with just two people seems a bit odd to me.... seems like it would hamper conversation as it would always be somebody's turn to go.

[thegmanifesto]

"pool, or bowling or even dave n busters or something"

Pool can be decent and its a classic, just make sure you get the right venue.

Maybe go to a wine tasting. Conversion rates are high.

[Willy Wonka]

(03-22-2010 01:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Maybe go to a wine tasting. Conversion rates are high.

Chick says she doesn't like wine. Which is really annoying, cuz it makes planning dates that much harder.....

[lilactag]

I will suggest something that i love doing and has produced some results:

Find an indoor Kart track to go to, then you can go at the evening and that is an activity that will rush her competiveness with you and both's adrenaline rush, it will be mind-blowing and i find it realistic to think a bang can be on the cards.
Another thing is, in those type of activities, it is implied each one pays its own ride.

I am cheap with women, but not with my leisure time, so it works!
Same as Kona, I avoid BDs and Valentine days or any special day to make plans with a girl, to avoid stupid spending.

[thegmanifesto]

"Chick says she doesn't like wine."

I would drop that girl like acid.

[Willy Wonka]

(03-22-2010 03:02 PM)lilactag Wrote:  

I will suggest something that i love doing and has produced some results:

Find an indoor Kart track to go to, then you can go at the evening and that is an activity that will rush her competiveness with you and both's adrenaline rush, it will be mind-blowing and i find it realistic to think a bang can be on the cards.
Another thing is, in those type of activities, it is implied each one pays its own ride.

I am cheap with women, but not with my leisure time, so it works!
Same as Kona, I avoid BDs and Valentine days or any special day to make plans with a girl, to avoid stupid spending.

Man.... you don't know how great of an idea the indoor Kart track is, she actually mentioned that she wanted to do that when she was over here for her last date.
The only problem, and I told her this then, but she was already aware.... is the only indoor kart track ANYwhere close to here recently shut down. So, there's just not that opportunity anymore.

I'm pretty cheap with women too. I don't have a problem taking them on drink dates, especially on the first date, because buying drinks tends to loosen them up a bit and allow you to get kisses, touching and of course banging quicker than you would have without alcohol.... it's a proven fact.

Anyway... I talked to her earlier today, tried to set-up some hiking up this mountain this weekend (cuz that shit's free! lol). She said that sounds like fun, but that she would have to get back to me closer to the weekend to let me know for sure.

(03-22-2010 03:24 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"Chick says she doesn't like wine."

I would drop that girl like acid.

Tell me about it. It's crossed my mind, but I would like to fuck her first.
I also question how much wine she's actually had/tried, she's 25 now, I feel like she should be past that. I'd try to put her on some sweeter shit like Moscato's or Riesling's, but she's gotta be willing to try it. I feel like there's gotta be some kind of wine she'd like, but I don't know....

[UgSlayer]

I think you're putting too much emphasis on what she wants to do. Would you be putting this much effort and planning into a meet up with a girl you're already fucking?

Pick something that is fun to you and take charge.

Most likely if she came by your place to "watch a movie" she was down to fuck. It doesn't matter what you do for a date, just make sure you're both having fun and it ends up at your place afterwards. Pull the trigger.