[hydrogonian]

Nothing will help you to do this like getting a girl pregnant.

Especially a girl that you couldn't ever imagine yourself being with, or otherwise attached to for the rest of your life.

I just endured the most hellish and stressful 8 days of my life.

At one point, my heart was probably above 100 bpm for 36 hours straight.

She fliplopped almost 4 times about whether she was having it or not, within one week. Then she miscarried.

Imagine your very freedom to make choices for yourself for the rest of your life, and up to a third of your income for 18 years, or more, disappearing before your eyes.

No matter how long you've gone in your life without this happening to you, do not get cavalier with your safe sex. I've been sexually active for 17 years, and very bold in that time, without it ever happening until now. It only takes one time.

Do not stick your dick in her bareback, only to put a condom on before you cum.

Do not believe her when she tells you that you have nothing to worry about if she were to get pregnant.

Don't believe her about anything that has to do with birth control.

Its your freedom and your money on the line.

After coming that close to lifelong unwanted shackles due to a moment or three of indiscretion and inflated ego, I'll never be that stupid again.

I feel like I've been given a second chance, and would gladly welcome extended periods of chastity over an unwanted kid with a woman that I didn't want to be with.

While I'll be back, I could care less about pussy for a while. I'm just enjoying the sweet sweet feeling of freedom returned.

I just thought that this tale would serve as a seldom talked about counterbalance to all of the benefits of landing girls with the frequency and ease that can be accomplished by studying methods of 'game'.

The girl that I impregnated was exceptionally hot. Its probably an evolutionary imperative for you to, at least subconsciously, feel the impulse to want to impregnate hot girls. However, looks don't make a difference. You will be miserable either way if you don't want it.

[laowai]

Glad you dodged a bullet.

This brings up a question I've been thinking about a lot recently, and I think it'd have to be something most of the more successful people on this board have worried about. Besides the sheer volume of girls you're pulling, pregnancy is probably more likely because of 1) being in some less developed countries and 2) regardless of country, coming off as more of a badass (alpha, whatever) in her eyes so she consciously/subconsciously wants to "oops" you. I think 2 is a natural by-product of her submitting to you.

I think the only thing I have going for me is being young enough where I might not be seen as a good, stable provider, but as that's getting less likely by the day, I'm curious as to how some of you more mature players deal with this (I'm talking along the lines of pre-pregnancy framing or similar ideas- feel free to leave abortion out of this).

[MiXX]

If you happen to have a steady girl around that you want to bareback regularly - have her put on the Copper - T worked for 3 years with me banging a girl raw.

Here is a great site I buy my condoms from:

condomdepot.com

It also has reviews of each product!

[speakeasy]

Thanks for the cautionary tale. I guess you have to very disciplined for the pullout method.

[hydrogonian]

(03-15-2010 06:55 AM)armanid27 Wrote:  

If you happen to have a steady girl around that you want to bareback regularly - have her put on the Copper - T worked for 3 years with me banging a girl raw.

Here is a great site I buy my condoms from:

condomdepot.com

It also has reviews of each product!

Its funny that you mentioned the Copper T, as this is the first thing she said she was going to have done once she heals up. I found a video here: Copper T on Youtube

It doesn't look like much to me, in terms of its "blocking" power. But I guess thats not the only way that it works.

I've got to decide if Im going to stay with her or not, as I know she probably wouldn't get it taken care of if this were to happen again. Im thinking that I should be free to date girls that I see a future with, in case this happens again, and therefore I wouldnt mind having a kid with quite as much.

However, this girl is having Full D's put in next month. Its tempting to stick around for those, for at least a little bit.

Its hard being a man.

[hydrogonian]

(03-15-2010 11:15 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Thanks for the cautionary tale. I guess you have to very disciplined for the pullout method.

Yeah, except even if you are disciplined, the pullout method is bullshit due to the presence of pre-cum. There are millions of little swimmers in that stuff. I think thats actually how this last mishap happened.

My problem is that she is allergic to latex. The polypropylene condoms don't stretch nearly as much as latex, and while I'm not humongous, they don't really fit me. Also, they don't make extra large polypropylene condoms. I guess lambskin was an option, but I heard that they smell bad, and they are also expensive as hell. But, in retrospect, not as expensive as a baby.

Just for reference, she was in the process of getting a prescription for the pill filled.

[speakeasy]

(03-15-2010 12:12 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Yeah, except even if you are disciplined, the pullout method is bullshit due to the presence of pre-cum. There are millions of little swimmers in that stuff. I think thats actually how this last mishap happened.

Actually, sperm is not in pre-cum, itself. What can happen is if you go for round 2, there are then residual sperm left in your shaft and the pre-cum will then carry them along into the girl. I think that's probably how it happens for a lot of guys. But on round 1, if the shaft is devoid of sperm, you should be ok.

Secondly, are you absolutely sure that girl was pregnant with YOUR kid?

[hydrogonian]

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[hydrogonian]

(03-15-2010 12:23 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(03-15-2010 12:12 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Yeah, except even if you are disciplined, the pullout method is bullshit due to the presence of pre-cum. There are millions of little swimmers in that stuff. I think thats actually how this last mishap happened.

Actually, sperm is not in pre-cum, itself. What can happen is if you go for round 2, there are then residual sperm left in your shaft and the pre-cum will then carry them along into the girl. I think that's probably how it happens for a lot of guys. But on round 1, if the shaft is devoid of sperm, you should be ok.

Secondly, are you absolutely sure that girl was pregnant with YOUR kid?

Good info, and good point.

While I don't really suspect her of cheating, I would have certainly had a paternity test done, before I took step 2, once the kid was here.

I hear something like 1 in 4 guys are unwittingly raising kids that aren't actually theirs.

[hydrogonian]

[quote] (03-15-2010 12:31 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

[quote='laowai' pid='14617' dateline='1268633259']
Glad you dodged a bullet.

This brings up a question I've been thinking about a lot recently, and I think it'd have to be something most of the more successful people on this board have worried about. Besides the sheer volume of girls you're pulling, pregnancy is probably more likely because of 1) being in some less developed countries and 2) regardless of country, coming off as more of a badass (alpha, whatever) in her eyes so she consciously/subconsciously wants to "oops" you. I think 2 is a natural by-product of her submitting to you.

I think the only thing I have going for me is being young enough where I might not be seen as a good, stable provider, but as that's getting less likely by the day, I'm curious as to how some of you more mature players deal with this (I'm talking along the lines of pre-pregnancy framing or similar ideas- feel free to leave abortion out of this).[/quote]

Sorry to say this, but at least in a another country you have the option to just leave. I once dated a girl with some serious psychological issues in South Korea, and if she were to have gotten pregnant, I likely wouldn't have had another option to preserve any type of life. I would have felt bad for the kid, but you've got to weigh each situation for what it is. She was seriously disturbed. At least she was independently wealthy, and wouldn't have needed my support.

She told me the entire time that we were dating, that having a kid with me would be the worst possible thing, socially, for her in her country. Then, after I returned to the USA, she informed me that she was secretly hoping she would have gotten pregnant with a little "me" so that she could have a piece of me there with her.

In some countries, having a kid with a sane and smart local might not be a terrible experience. While not optimal, it would allow you permanent visa status in most instances. A stronger sense of family in many countries would likely lead to a good upbringing for the kid unless you are banging seriously poor girls. In that instance, the choice gets much more complicated if you care about the kid at all.

That aside, its all about choice. In the USA, a man has no choice once he knocks up a girl. The law dictates that your life is in her hands.

In other countries, US law doesn't apply. You have full discretion as to whether you would want to be in the kids life or not, in any fashion.

In terms of trying to psychologically frame the situation so that she doesn't see you as an great provider option, that likely is out of the hands of the average gringo. Her deep psychological desires and social framing are too deep rooted to be influenced in any real way. The most that would happen, if she did see you as a provider, would be that she might try to deceive you that she didn't see you that way.

You cant change people, you can only try to discern who they really are and what they are really after.

If a girl is with you for any period of time at all, unless she's a drug addict and you supply her, then she probably sees you as a candidate for future fatherhood.

If your just banging girls randomly, then try to seem poor and a little unhinged. However, once you around her for a bit, and if your not truly either of these things, it will likely come through.

[kerouac]

This is one of those risks we have to constantly be aware of while we're fucking around. Sure, fucking around has it benefits, but as the saying goes, nothing in life is free...

As difficult as it may be at times to say no to sex, one of the most important skills you can attain while learning game is figuring out which girls to avoid.

When you have good game getting pussy becomes a non-important thing. The next step on the ladder is attaining quality pussy consistently.

This is why when a guy says he's had sex with 100+ women to me, it really doesn't impress me one bit. On the other hand, if a guy has sex with multiple high quality girls, then that is impressive.

In many ways, quality over quantity has a tendency of leading to long term happiness.

[gringoed]

Thanks for the reminder. 26 and so far, so good. By the way, I only use the poly condoms now. Nobody is allergic, they don't break nearly as often, and it leaves no residue so the girl has no excuse not to give you head afterwards!

[hydrogonian]

(03-16-2010 12:58 AM)gringoed Wrote:  

Thanks for the reminder. 26 and so far, so good. By the way, I only use the poly condoms now. Nobody is allergic, they don't break nearly as often, and it leaves no residue so the girl has no excuse not to give you head afterwards!

Yeah, I'm starting to get used to the poly condoms. They feel like they have a death grip on my dick though, due to the fact that they don't stretch. But the fact that they break less is a huge plus that I didn't know about. There's nothing like finding a busted condom after your done.

Also, someone told me that the effective rate of condoms, in preventing pregnancy, is something like 94%. That seems really low to me, relative to the risk that I'm now willing to take in knocking a girl up. From now on, I'm likely only going to be comfortable when she's on the pill, or an IUD, and I'm using a condom.

And I fucking HATE using condoms with girls that I'm dating.

[Roosh]

I just wanted to vouch that there is indeed no sperm in precum.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12762...t=Abstract

But if it's your second time in the night then the precum can flush out some sperm lingering in your urethra.

[MiXX]

[/quote]
And I fucking HATE using condoms with girls that I'm dating.
[/quote]

yeah, who doesn't bro! Try out the Crown condoms, it literally feels like you have nothing on - I'm serious! Not to mention the fucker is tough, and have not had one break/tear on me yet.

I have found myself many times pulling out thinking the the condom has slipped off - scared shitless!

Give it a shot!

[Kona]

Aren't only around 5% of folks actually allergic to latex?

More used to be sensitive to the nonoxonyl 9 (or whatever) but they don't use that anymore.

I think "I'm allergic to latex" is a big red flag that you're dealing with a baby-hungry young lady.

Personally, I can't seem to stay interested in one girl for more than a few weeks max, therefor I never have condom-free sex.

When my Hawaiian Warriors do come in contact with a chick, it's always at least above her waistline.

Aloha!

[speakeasy]

(03-17-2010 09:22 PM)armanid27 Wrote:  

yeah, who doesn't bro! Try out the Crown condoms, it literally feels like you have nothing on - I'm serious! Not to mention the fucker is tough, and have not had one break/tear on me yet.

I have found myself many times pulling out thinking the the condom has slipped off - scared shitless!

Give it a shot!

True dat.

I used to use Trojan thins. After being spoiled by Crown, a Trojan would be like wearing a water balloon. As much as I want to support American companies, the Japanese have one-upped us again. First with cars, then with condoms.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-17-2010 09:55 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(03-17-2010 09:22 PM)armanid27 Wrote:  

yeah, who doesn't bro! Try out the Crown condoms, it literally feels like you have nothing on - I'm serious! Not to mention the fucker is tough, and have not had one break/tear on me yet.

I have found myself many times pulling out thinking the the condom has slipped off - scared shitless!

Give it a shot!

True dat.

I used to use Trojan thins. After being spoiled by Crown, a Trojan would be like wearing a water balloon. As much as I want to support American companies, the Japanese have one-upped us again. First with cars, then with condoms.

Don't forget Sushi, Yakatori, Karate and Banzai trees.

[Willy Wonka]

(03-17-2010 09:22 PM)armanid27 Wrote:  

yeah, who doesn't bro! Try out the Crown condoms, it literally feels like you have nothing on - I'm serious! Not to mention the fucker is tough, and have not had one break/tear on me yet.

I have found myself many times pulling out thinking the the condom has slipped off - scared shitless!

Give it a shot!

Naw, I don't find that to be true at all. I've bought Crown condoms off condomdepot, because all the reviews were so good, but shit... it still feels like a condom to me - doesn't compare to being raw at all.

Girls have told me they like the Crowns better though, so I guess that's reason enough to get them over other condoms...

There's no condom that's like no condom. It's just impossible.