[Adam Michaels]

I was reading this thread on two guys confronting a girl who was cheating with both of them. Then Houston posted this Gem of a video.

Its a real time show called "Cheaters" where they bust in on someone caught in the act of cheating. People on the show normally supplicate and grovel and beg for forgiveness. In this episode, they bust in on the man out with his side chick to dinner.

Ask yourself how you would respond to a camera crew+your main chick "blowing up your spot" then watch how a "old school G" handles this:

Notice in the video how not ONE TIME did anyone talk to him dissrespectful or with an attitude. Both women were embarassed but they knew better than talk wrong to him. Even the snarky little host kept his mouth shut. Why?

Quote:

I'm a old school G, and you know this.

First words out of his mouth when a CAMERA crew and his main chick confront him for cheating:

Quote:

I'm putting my cowboy boot down and I'm gonna finish eating my food and YOU need to step off with this bullshit

^My man didnt even apologize!

When she tells him he better stop cheating on her:

Quote:

I was a player before you met me, and i'm gonna be a player while your with me. Do you understand? If you dont, pack your bags.

Then he scolds his main chick for blowing up his spot:

Quote:

You know better, you know better. I trained you better than this

Even when caught cheating, she never even said she wanted to leave him. She just said he needs to stop cheating. But he instead "fires" her for this bad behavior. Hahaha

Quote:

You know what? Im gonna get this woman to pack my food up, because you know Food is important to me, but your not important to me. Your ass is fired!

Still the best frame ever:

Quote:

I'm an old school G. I been a old school G all my life and I'm gonna be one till I die. If you cant accept that get your ass to steppin.

Cause bitch I take care of you. I buy you a house, you dont work, I pay the bills.

And the whole time all of this is going on, his SIDE chick never left. At one point he goes over to her and tells her he'll smooth everything out and see her two days later on friday.

Then he brings down the hammer:

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I know how to please her. You can be faithful all you want to, but what you wont do, THE NEXT ONE WILL baby. And I guarantee you that.

Does the game get much tighter? Haha you know he still has both of those chicks today. I dont think you can even teach that, either you got it or you dont. Even on this forum, I wonder how many dudes would respond like he did. Thats what seperates the real G's from the fake G's. Back them into a corner and see how they react. A real G keeps it G, and a fake G will supplicate and say he's sorry.

Play by play, for a candid, real-time reaction, that has to go down in the Player HOF. My man was: caught in the act, managed to never say sorry, let his main chick know he "trained" her better than this, and re-established his position as "the man" in those parts. At not one point in the interaction did anyone show him an ounce of disrespect. Most men today cant command that same kinda respect.

Side note: Both chicks "said" they werent gonna see him anymore, but from their reaction, you could tell they would "forgive" his ways real quick. Women will deal with cheating when its not thrown in their face AND when its coming from a strong man. You can argue that the chicks werent fly, but neither is he. I've actually reacted like this twice, and both times was a success. And this was with good looking chicks in college. You must have that unwavering frame.

[vinman]

I watched this a while back and could not stop laughing. Game. Recognized.

[Dr. Howard]

This was amazing, especially compared with the other post where the 2 dudes confronted the chick. This guy managed the situation, barely got angry, just authoritative and even turned questions around on the host. His frame of mind reflected on everyone. I bet if he flipped out at any point either of those women would have gone harpy crazy. My favourite part was when he says "I'm not leaving, I'm going to pay for my food"

[Scott]

This guy pulls all of the right moves. Although I do think he gets a little angry and he doesn't carry things off as smooth as James Bond, his thinking is spot on.

Basically, if a girl pulls shit like this with you: Flip the situation on its head. They try to call him out for 'cheating' so instead he calls them out for being incongruous, acting weird and generally trying to beat down on him despite knowing what they were getting into. Classic.

[R Smoov]

What I like about oldhead is that even though those hoes got him raging on camera, He knows he can get more bitches. It's really good to be optimistic when it comes to learning/using/practicing game.

Also, I've learned that its good to own everything important to you and your survival. Although the hoe took his keys, he owned everything that was with those keys. Giving him the right to say "Put that shit down"

This is that gangsta mentality that I like so much and keep following. Oldhead wish the bitches would leave him, he could have gotten more. He wasn't going to go Lil Reese on these bitches but he used his words and actions to let them know he runs them.

He's prolly related to one of us too prolly.

Not to mention I found a new pull move for these hoes on the dancefloor:
Pull the back of their jeans towards you.

[Technics]

Adam Michaels,

Great breakdown. I think a strong player holds an INTERNAL frame of everything The Old School G says, but like SCOTT says above, the guy flies off the handle a little bit. If the guy kept his frame, but stayed calm and phrased it a little lighter, that would have been the ultimate.

Its amazing how two guys say functionally the same thing, but the delivery/attitude/body language is totally different due to internal frame, and therefore the reactions end up being as different as night and day.

Still gotta give him props for believing and saying outloud what 95% of scared guys wouldn't dare to say, insinuate or even think.

[Pappy]

(10-31-2012 12:52 PM)Technics Wrote:  

Adam Michaels,

Great breakdown. I think a strong player holds an INTERNAL frame of everything The Old School G says, but like SCOTT says above, the guy flies off the handle a little bit. If the guy kept his frame, but stayed calm and phrased it a little lighter, that would have been the ultimate.

I think what really pisses him off is that his old wife confronted him publicly, in front of cameras, instead of doing it privately. If my wife did that to me she would be in big trouble... in fact I think that wife will go home and take a lot of heat and will apologize later.

[presidentcarter]

"If you can't accept it, get yo ass to steppin"

[Bacchus]

I love Cheaters. The finest white trash and hoodrat love triangles America has to offer.

On the show, the best players have the same immediate response, the reframe. They ask the girl some variation of "What are you doing here?" You're caught, so you can't really lie or deny your way out of it. Your best bet is make her answer why she's acting like a crazy bitch. The first words out of the ol' school G's mouth were "What is this shit?"

[FretDancer]

You guys know this is the G Manifesto right....

[Adam Michaels]

Haha I'm glad everyone enjoyed this. Its one of the best examples of "frame" i've ever seen recorded. You could go on for days breaking down what this dude did naturally.

I just hope the young guys see its not about game, its really about who you are as a man. You know he was not taught this. It was too natural a reaction. You have to BELIEVE your higher value. You have to BELIEVE in abundance. Then, you'll act exactly the same way.

[worldwidetraveler]

I have been waiting to see El Mech on that show. I really wonder if they shoot that show in Tampa.

[oldnemesis]

(10-31-2012 08:07 AM)wiscanada Wrote:  

This was amazing, especially compared with the other post where the 2 dudes confronted the chick. This guy managed the situation, barely got angry, just authoritative and even turned questions around on the host. His frame of mind reflected on everyone. I bet if he flipped out at any point either of those women would have gone harpy crazy. My favourite part was when he says "I'm not leaving, I'm going to pay for my food"

This happens to you naturally when cheating isn't an issue for you - i.e. it is nothing to be ashamed for. Like, "what's wrong with you guys?"

[TXH]

Glorious frame control.

Body language: The way he took up space, moved slowly, used his eye contact intentionally, even the fact that he sat on the same side of the table with his back to the wall... all textbook.
Words: He gets right to the point, to the fundamental way to frame a fast interaction: know your identity and present it succinctly: "I'm old school G."

OP makes great observations. I'll add that I'm noticing a pattern in game that I've been missing for years, because I over-intellectualize: grabbing and repeating yourself often work, especially when the girl is distracted. This style is sometimes called "low-comp" (comprehension). Think of loud club game. They player repeats himself as much as he needs to, and grabs calmly and without apology. Reminds me of the first 35 seconds of this Paul Janka video. At first glance, it looks like he's just holding her hand from 0:12 to 0:35, but he gives her a slight pull as he says "coffee is innocent enough."

[Screwston]

I'm close to South Park. I wonder if there's any way to set up an interview with him