[dragnet]

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The rumor had spread to Fallujah, Iraq in early 2005 that some of the wives of our unit had been caught running a brothel on our home base in Hawaii. As per many great substance-lacking rumors this one came with the catch that the reason our chain of command had not informed anyone was because they didn’t want Marines in a combat theater going ape-shit with their loaded weapons while contemplating a different warrior's welcome home than originally anticipated.

When we finally came home it turned out the story was true; many of those wives had fled and spent the deployment money as well. I specifically remember standing in some line behind a Marine who said, “After all of that (war/battle/survival) I just want my truck, but she won’t give it back. … This is fuck*d up shit!”

Cheating wives running off with their husbands' cash is fairly common in the military--especially among newlyweds--to the point that it almost passes without comment. But the fact that a group of these bitches actually colluded to whore out while their husbands were getting shot at half a world away strikes me as particularly evil.

It's so bad for betas in this country that you can only come to one conclusion: that the system is working exactly as it's been designed to. If you can lose a limb for your country and still come home to this--and the women aren't rendered social pariahs--then what the hell are you fighting for?

Read the rest here

[Samseau]

The thing is, a lot of guys get married and go into the Military because of the crazy good perks given to married couples. They don't have to live in barracks when stationed at a base somewhere, they get higher pay, etc.

These women are basically gold-diggers that have always existed, but young enlists are way too naive to understand that there are women out there like this.

So although I agree that American women have shitty morals in general, that's not to say these guys wouldn't get duped even if they were dating out of a pool of women of much higher caliber.

[Anon-A-Moose]

It's stupid to go halfway across the world and expect a young woman will stay loyal. Her loyalty has got about as much chance of happening as my cat growing wings and flying out the window.

[Veloce]

My favorite comment:

NoSingleOne on Oct 28, 12:06 PM said:
A year in Hawaii alone with deployment money vs. in Iraq alone getting your ass shot at and dodging IEDs.

Yeah, those women have it tough.

[Parlay44]

I'd hate to say it but we do it to ourselves. It's one thing to date slutty immoral women and its another to marry them. Men need to be 150% confident of a relationship at least 2 years before you even consider marriage. We need to tighten up on the leash. And if any of you guys have sons you need to break women down to them as early as possible to save them from these cunning manipulative vultures.

[dragnet]

(10-28-2012 06:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

The thing is, a lot of guys get married and go into the Military because of the crazy good perks given to married couples. They don't have to live in barracks when stationed at a base somewhere, they get higher pay, etc.

These women are basically gold-diggers that have always existed, but young enlists are way too naive to understand that there are women out there like this.

So although I agree that American women have shitty morals in general, that's not to say these guys wouldn't get duped even if they were dating out of a pool of women of much higher caliber.

At one point, the Marines (and other branches too, I believe) banned married men from enlisting and did not permit enlisted men to marry. It's easy to see why---the type of shit these whores are pulling can have serious consequences for morale and battlefield cohesion. Imagine you are in a firefight with your buddy and your wife texts you a photo of another guy balls-deep inside her and tells you the marriage is done. At that point, you become a danger not just to yourself but a liability to your teammates and the larger objective as well.

And you're right about the perks as well. Part of the reason for curbing marriage was because of the ballooning costs of subsidizing higher-quality housing for wives and children. Guys were getting hitched just to avoid living the in the barracks.

[vinman]

Small world. I was embedded with this very same unit in Afghanistan in 2010/2011,and when I heard the story it blew my mind.

[MikeCF]

Whore women are way more disruptive to troop morale than gays. But you'd never hear the chicken hawks say we need to keep married men out of the military.

[Excelsior]

(10-28-2012 08:41 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Whore women are way more disruptive to troop morale than gays. But you'd never hear the chicken hawks say we need to keep married men out of the military.

The traditional conservatives are too busy holding those women up on a pedestal.

[Checkerz]

To be honest this kind of thing should be considered treason. Can you imagine a marine cracking dragging his c.o or killing a civilian that could amount to aninternational incident or just provoke more insurgent attacks on base?

[MHaes]

To be honest, you care more about your battle buds, especially when deployed, then your girl. My SL dumped his girlfriend because she was too needy, and we had as close to a party as we could for me. Even gave him the beef ravioli MRE. That right there is true love haha.

[cat_a_clysm]

(10-28-2012 08:41 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Whore women are way more disruptive to troop morale than gays. But you'd never hear the chicken hawks say we need to keep married men out of the military.

Probably because that would do nothing to prevent whore women from disrupting troop morale.

[cat_a_clysm]

(10-28-2012 10:22 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-28-2012 08:41 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Whore women are way more disruptive to troop morale than gays. But you'd never hear the chicken hawks say we need to keep married men out of the military.

The traditional conservatives are too busy holding those women up on a pedestal.

No. Traditional conservatives are definitely not putting military wives who run a brothel while their husbands are deployed on a pedestal.

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

This reminds me of the scene in Jarhead where the wife of one guy sent him a video of her fucking another dude. Tbis shit shows just how much our country is fucked up. Funny how most of them can actually maintain a straight face without smiling and rubbing their hands together at the funeral after their husbands are brought back to the states in coffins.

[Pacesetter20]

(10-28-2012 06:40 PM)dragnet Wrote:  

Quote:

The rumor had spread to Fallujah, Iraq in early 2005 that some of the wives of our unit had been caught running a brothel on our home base in Hawaii. As per many great substance-lacking rumors this one came with the catch that the reason our chain of command had not informed anyone was because they didn’t want Marines in a combat theater going ape-shit with their loaded weapons while contemplating a different warrior's welcome home than originally anticipated.

When we finally came home it turned out the story was true; many of those wives had fled and spent the deployment money as well. I specifically remember standing in some line behind a Marine who said, “After all of that (war/battle/survival) I just want my truck, but she won’t give it back. … This is fuck*d up shit!”

Cheating wives running off with their husbands' cash is fairly common in the military--especially among newlyweds--to the point that it almost passes without comment. But the fact that a group of these bitches actually colluded to whore out while their husbands were getting shot at half a world away strikes me as particularly evil.

It's so bad for betas in this country that you can only come to one conclusion: that the system is working exactly as it's been designed to. If you can lose a limb for your country and still come home to this--and the women aren't rendered social pariahs--then what the hell are you fighting for?

Read the rest here

I've seen this first hand. Two weeks left to go during my 1st deployment (15 months), one of my Soldiers' wives calls him up and tells him she wants a divorce, cleaned him out too. Plus I've heard of it second hand too many times to count.

[Blackhawk]

Soldier's pay, particularly during the first 4 years, is very low. Privates E1 make less than $18,000 their first two years. (link to pay table)

There are some increased benefits, and a definite increase in pay for being married. The main thing being, if you're married you're allowed to live off post instead of being forced to live in a shared barracks. Even if your wife is still living at home with her parents! This also gets you a housing allowance, a food allowance, some other benefits, but basically $500 a month extra added to your pay.(source) That's a huge bonus at the lower levels. You literally are doing the same job, at the same rank, as your single co-workers living on base, but you have greater liberty and are paid more because you're married, under government law. So it's not like the private sector; there's definite financial and privilege incentives to becoming married when you're enlisted.

The smarter ones have paper marriages (a marriage on paper only, no actual cohabitation or intimacy) to another soldier, they both get the increase in pay for being married, and then they end their paper marriage when their term is up. I've swooped multiple women (They're the older college students with their military benefits paying for their studies) who had paper marriages while in the military that ended friendly without any divorce-rape and were done just so they could both get the allowance money while enlisted. These women will say "my ex" but they never even had sex with the dude (which is why the divorces are so friendly, I imagine) or even owned a couch together. It was just another form to fill out to get more pay for four years.

[Gmac]

We should round up all these women and send them off to Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan so the locals can have their way with them.

[Pacesetter20]

(10-29-2012 05:03 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

We should round up all these women and send them off to Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan so the locals can have their way with them.

Which ironically could help the war on terror. Most insurgents/terrorists are young, sexually frustrated men with no job or wife prospects and/or hope for the future. Though it would take a large amount and further exacerbate the demographic problem in the West.

I think Roissy had a post about this or something similar.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(10-28-2012 10:47 PM)cat_a_clysm Wrote:  

(10-28-2012 10:22 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

The traditional conservatives are too busy holding those women up on a pedestal.

No. Traditional conservatives are definitely not putting military wives who run a brothel while their husbands are deployed on a pedestal.

You sure? Try calling any one of those women a "slut" and see how fast they start apologizing and saying that she must have had her reasons and we're not to judge.

[Mage]

(10-28-2012 10:29 PM)Checkerz Wrote:  

To be honest this kind of thing should be considered treason. Can you imagine a marine cracking dragging his c.o or killing a civilian that could amount to aninternational incident or just provoke more insurgent attacks on base?

Actually any women who cheats is a treator, whether her man is in military or not. A hard working civillian man boosts his countries economy with his work. In return he gets salary to feed his wife and family. If his wife and family are disloyal to him, and this is fully supported by state, he has no more reason to stay loyal to his country and to society.

Therefore the Sharia law that punishes cheating women with stoning to death actually makes a lot of sence.

Ironically these men got cheated and robbed by their wifes while they where fighting againt that law.

God might be imagined, but his retribution is real.

[bacon]

the leap of faith these marines take in their wives is amazing. expecting american women to not slut it up when your 6,000 miles away for 9 months at a time? thats pipe dreaming brah

[Walderschmidt]

(10-29-2012 04:36 AM)Blackhawk Wrote:  

Soldier's pay, particularly during the first 4 years, is very low.
The smarter ones have paper marriages (a marriage on paper only, no actual cohabitation or intimacy) to another soldier, they both get the increase in pay for being married, and then they end their paper marriage when their term is up. I've swooped multiple women (They're the older college students with their military benefits paying for their studies) who had paper marriages while in the military that ended friendly without any divorce-rape and were done just so they could both get the allowance money while enlisted. These women will say "my ex" but they never even had sex with the dude (which is why the divorces are so friendly, I imagine) or even owned a couch together. It was just another form to fill out to get more pay for four years.

That is genius.

Has that ever backfired on anyone, though?

[Hades]

(10-29-2012 08:47 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(10-29-2012 04:36 AM)Blackhawk Wrote:  

Soldier's pay, particularly during the first 4 years, is very low.
The smarter ones have paper marriages (a marriage on paper only, no actual cohabitation or intimacy) to another soldier, they both get the increase in pay for being married, and then they end their paper marriage when their term is up. I've swooped multiple women (They're the older college students with their military benefits paying for their studies) who had paper marriages while in the military that ended friendly without any divorce-rape and were done just so they could both get the allowance money while enlisted. These women will say "my ex" but they never even had sex with the dude (which is why the divorces are so friendly, I imagine) or even owned a couch together. It was just another form to fill out to get more pay for four years.

That is genius.

Has that ever backfired on anyone, though?

I was sort of wondering that myself. Don't you have to have a shared address or something to be married? Even on paper?
And if push comes to shove, how are they going to make you "prove" that you're man and wife?

[Blackhawk]

(10-29-2012 08:47 AM)Hades Wrote:  

I was sort of wondering that myself. Don't you have to have a shared address or something to be married? Even on paper?
And if push comes to shove, how are they going to make you "prove" that you're man and wife?

They went the full legal route.
Getting married at the County Courthouse is $50 plus blood test. (may have to shop around) They just showed the marriage certificate.
Getting quickie low assets no fault divorce is $120 (may have to shop around)

I imagine it can backfire if you choose an emotional enlisted woman and get intimate with her and she decides to go for your cash as well when it's time to dissolve. The solution is to have a friend (most guys use their Mom) they trust and can sock all the cash away with. Keep your own bank account near zero (you'll have to show the account records later on) and send checks back to Mom that she deposits in an account for you with only her name on it, so it's untouchable. If asked, you're helping her make ends meet. It's the poor man's trustee.

And don't do this in the Navy. Way too many women purposely get pregnant to avoid going out on sea deployment. You need someone who's past boot camp and going to be discharged roughly the same time as you will, not someone who will cop out early.

I haven't done this myself, I think it's a crazy scheme, and I imagine there's a whole lot of ways it can go bad. But I do know people who've done it, and it seems to be pretty common.

But now that gays are legal in the military, I imagine all sorts of guys are having paper gay-marriages to get the same benefits... and knowing they can avoid the emotionalism when its time to dissolve the paper partnership.