[Timoteo]

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/tv/b...d=ansent11

Chevy Chase dropped the n-word during a tirade on the set of "Community" on Friday, according to Deadline.

It was not a Michael Richards situation, at least in that Chase's heart seemed in the right place. Reportedly, the 69-year-old former "Saturday Night Live" star was protesting how much more bigoted his "Community" character could be made by the TV series' writers. (The racial epithet served as an example of how he might next be asked to refer to the characters played by actors Donald Glover and Yvette Nicole Brown.) Still, "right" is far from an accurate description of the place Chase's head was in. Production was briefly shut down, according to TVLine, and an apology issued by Chase on the set. But the damage was already done, and continues to reverberate through a shocked Internet this morning.

This was not the first unfortunate behavior engaged in by Chase, either. In March, after being roasted for walking off set during some crucial filming, he called the show's former executive producer a "fat" "alcoholic" in a profanity-laden voicemail that was leaked online.

But hold on guys...this is the truly sad part of this ordeal:

And last month, he told the Huffington Post UK that taking the "Community" role was "a big mistake" he made "because I have three daughters and a wife, and I figured out I might as well make some bread every week, so I can take care of them in the way they want."

Poor beta! Having to work a shit job to support your princesses in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed! See...celebs have it hard just like the rest of us!

[Samseau]

Link? Pics? Vids????

[Timoteo]

(10-22-2012 04:18 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Link? Pics? Vids????

They only posted a story. Unfortunately, no one had their cellphone cam out to capture the moment...HA HA!

[Icepasian]

I always have to laugh at how sensitive people are to a few words. Breaking down or acting out of hand because someone said any one of the many racial slurs in this world just proves someone's insecurity.

Either way, the fact that guy is working excessively to support an unsustainable, over-the-top lifestyle for his family is a bit beta although not as beta as having to apologize to the public over saying "something that someone else doesn't like".

[Basil Ransom]

I just watched a segment of Bill Maher's show from the mid-1990s. Maher says 'nigger' and 'fag' freely, plus 'dyke,' in the context of a joke. I was pretty young then, so I don't have first hand experience of what it was like in the 90's. But I can't *imagine* him doing that today - maybe he'd say 'fag,' but there's no way he'd say 'nigger.' I hear people ask whether we're more or less PC than we were in the 90's. The segment strongly suggests we're more, and not less, PC today. It's even more marked because profanity is much more common nowadays, especially among women.

[Timoteo]

(10-22-2012 05:43 PM)Icepasian Wrote:  

I always have to laugh at how sensitive people are to a few words. Breaking down or acting out of hand because someone said any one of the many racial slurs in this world just proves someone's insecurity.

Either way, the fact that guy is working excessively to support an unsustainable, over-the-top lifestyle for his family is a bit beta although not as beta as having to apologize to the public over saying "something that someone else doesn't like".

It largely depends on what you say, and the context in which you say it. It isn't about insecurity - be it racial slurs, or another insult (when I was a kid, anything said about your mom was considered fighting words) that is hurled at the wrong time at the wrong person, it's going to be a problem. I think in this particular context, Chevy was merely illustrating how his character, supposedly a racist, should be expressing himself. As touched on in the piece, Chevy seems to have issues with the producers, etc. on this show, so he's probably angry or critical of something every day on the set. I don't have an issue with his use of the word in this context, but at the same time, this is a network comedy, so he should also understand that network standards & practices is unlikely to let that particular word slide.

[Timoteo]

(10-22-2012 10:24 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

I just watched a segment of Bill Maher's show from the mid-1990s. Maher says 'nigger' and 'fag' freely, plus 'dyke,' in the context of a joke. I was pretty young then, so I don't have first hand experience of what it was like in the 90's. But I can't *imagine* him doing that today - maybe he'd say 'fag,' but there's no way he'd say 'nigger.' I hear people ask whether we're more or less PC than we were in the 90's. The segment strongly suggests we're more, and not less, PC today. It's even more marked because profanity is much more common nowadays, especially among women.

Comics have always enjoyed a certain license that other public people/personalities haven't. While we are more PC, I think the bigoted and the hateful try to use that as cover. They'll make a public statement that is obviously racist, then when they're critcized for it, they'll level the charge that everyone is too PC, or that their freedom of speech is being infringed upon. We've always been free to say what we want, but speech has never been consequences-free (well...it used to be consequences-free for some, but not anymore, and that's in part what some of the complaining is about. Those that once had license have lost it). ABC cancelled "Politically Incorrect" because Bill Maher simply chose to clarify the definition of cowardice in the context of the WTC hijackers. The media and public immediately chose to interpret that as a defense, or admiration of what the hijackers did (which is ridiculous). The act was obviously depraved, but cowardly isn't the word I'd use for what they did. He went on to say that firing a missile at someone from miles away is more cowardly by definition, as opposed to sacrificing yourself to fly a plane into a building. That got him hung, but it also allowed him to take his show to a cable, where he had more freedom to use any language he wanted. I also think the definition of "political correctness" has evolved. First, what you have to say has to be TRUE (generally, these are uncomfortable truths, but truths nonetheless) to be able to invoke the charge. Someone merely spewing slurs left and right can't legitimately invoke the charge. That isn't about the world being too PC, that's about someone saying something stupid/bigoted/hateful, and getting criticized for it. That's someone not wanting to have their opinions challenged.

[Timoteo]

It's great that you picked this particular episode of "Politically Incorrect." Camille Paglia is one of my favorite people, because I believe she's honest. It isn't about agreeing with everything she says (she was supportive of the Birther movement, I also don't agree that homosexuality is in everyone, etc.) - I just think she's legitimately committed to what she says, and isn't just saying it to be controversial. As you probably noticed, she touched on a few things we discuss here, and there's no small wonder that feminists rejected her. She laid out their hypocricy for all to see.

This show pushed what was allowable on network tv right to the line in terms of language and subject matter. Other shows, like "NYPD Blue" moved the needle a little further (male nudity from behind, female breasts from the side, some language), but I don't think you'll see certain slurs, used in certain contexts ever.