[tiggaling]

This is a thread for Holocaust skepticism. I know this is a touchy and possibly emotional subject for some people, but I would invite people to look into the evidence (or lack thereof) for "The Holocaust"

If this is new to you, you might want to start with David Cole's video,

and then go to Dean Irebodd's (a gay guy from San Francisco) videos.

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.html?page_id=1001

[Tuthmosis]

[MikeCF]

LOL. You wanna say Jews milk their holocaust when others (gypsies, communists, poles, Turks) were slaughtered and act like there was only THE Holocaust?

Sure.

But denying that shit? GTFO with that bullshit.

[alphaspiraton]

Unsuccessful troll not successful.

[bacon]

ive meet people who had lived through it and stilll had the numbers on their arm. it was a pretty powerful experience seeing that tattoo in person.

[tiggaling]

(10-10-2012 06:54 PM)bacon Wrote:  

ive meet people who had lived through it and stilll had the numbers on their arm. it was a pretty powerful experience seeing that tattoo in person.

Nobody is disputing the extremely harsh conditions of the labour camps of the Jews.

It is simply that, hard as it may be to believe, that there is actually no evidence that stands up, which proves the extermination of the Jews, and of the few eyewitness accounts, Holocaust deniers take them apart very easily.

[Soma]

[BIGINJAPAN]

I have looked into the deniers arguments in the past and I have to say they make a strong case. My opinion has definitely changed about the holocaust and I am certain the " official " version is not true at all. But no doubt 100's of thousands of jews died during world war II.

[Alpha]

(10-10-2012 06:56 PM)tiggaling Wrote:  

there is actually no evidence that stands up, which proves the extermination of the Jews,

Over six million dead Jews. Not proof of extermination.

[tiggaling]

Yes, a lot of Jews died in the camps. Nobody disputes that.

Strange as it may sound, the "Final Solution" was actually to ship the Jews to Madagascar. Nobody denies the authenticity of the documents which report this.

https://www.vho.org/shop/index.html?main_...cts_id=355

[tiggaling]

(10-10-2012 07:04 PM)Alpha Wrote:  

Over six million dead Jews. Not proof of extermination.

There is no proof or evidence of this whatsoever. Yes, a lot of Jews died in the camps, from Typhus during an epidemic and tough conditions, but there is no actual reliable evidence of extermination. In fact, all the evidence points to the whole thing being allied propoganda.

[Statsi]

I've been to 2 concentration camps, I am thoroughly convinced it happened.

[freshcream]

I have a masters in history, I have been to all the Nazi-camps, met surviving jews, and I have colleague who wrote a masters thesis on holocaust denial. This offends me.

[BoiBoi]

Hey man, as already mentioned above GTFO with this bullshit!

You dont believe in the Holocaust? You think it was allied Propaganda!? Go to some museums here in Germany and check out the records the Nazi kept. As you may know we (Germans) can be quite anal about book keeping and hence, you can read em up first hand (if you knew German), but surely they are all forged, right. Maybe they also forged everything about the Reichskristallnacht, the documents concerning the Endlösung der Judenfrage and even the disappearance of my grandparents' Jewish neighbours...Instead of reading the bullshit some American gaylord wrote, spend some time and check out the Dairy of Anne Frank.

[alphaspiraton]

(10-10-2012 06:56 PM)tiggaling Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 06:54 PM)bacon Wrote:  

ive meet people who had lived through it and stilll had the numbers on their arm. it was a pretty powerful experience seeing that tattoo in person.

Nobody is disputing the extremely harsh conditions of the labour camps of the Jews.

It is simply that, hard as it may be to believe, that there is actually no evidence that stands up, which proves the extermination of the Jews, and of the few eyewitness accounts, Holocaust deniers take them apart very easily.

As much as I hate your thread, and I will also give it a 1/5 rating in a second, you are sort of right that there is no actual scholarly evidence they were targeted in a mass slaughter.

But that doesn't mean that 6,000,000 jews did not die in those camps. Show some respect. (disclaimer: I'm not jewish)

[gringochileno]

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

[tiggaling]

(10-10-2012 07:30 PM)BoiBoi Wrote:  

Hey man, as already mentioned above GTFO with this bullshit!

You dont believe in the Holocaust? You think it was allied Propaganda!? Go to some museums here in Germany and check out the records the Nazi kept. As you may know we (Germans) can be quite anal about book keeping and hence, you can read em up first hand (if you knew German), but surely they are all forged, right. Maybe they also forged everything about the Reichskristallnacht, the documents concerning the Endlösung der Judenfrage and even the disappearance of my grandparents' Jewish neighbours...Instead of reading the bullshit some American gaylord wrote, spend some time and check out the Dairy of Anne Frank.

Anne Frank died of Typhus, like hundreds of thousands of Jews in camps, as there was a typhus epidemic at the time.

as for the Endlösung der Judenfrage, this is "the final solution", which as stated, meant sending The Jews to Madagascar. That's on the record.

and I'm not saying the Reichskristallnacht did not happen, or that The Jews were not horribly perscetued, I'm just saying, the evidence for deliberate extermination of The Jews is tenuous at best.

[tiggaling]

BoiBoi, You might want to watch the Dean Irebodd's videos. He makes the point that the Germans are very efficient. The testimony shows that the methods which are described for killing The Jews were not very efficient, or even plausible when you look into it.

alphaspiraton, I do not wish to disrespect any people who have Jewish family who died in WWII, as there were many.

[gringochileno]

Look guys, I know this is a touchy and possibly emotional subject for some people, but I would invite people to look into the evidence (or lack thereof) for "The Moon." There's no good evidence that the Moon really exists, I mean look, some guy who made a Youtube video agrees with me!

[Menace]

We didn't land on the moon. 9/11 was an inside job. AIDS was invented to kill black people. I'm sure that I'm forgetting something. Oh wait, I got another one. Game doesn't work.

[Sourcecode]

Just stop replying to this thread.

[Aliblahba]

I don't care if the Holocaust existed or not.

[Therapsid]

The Holocaust does receive far too much attention. Ultimately, dead is dead and all the talk about the industrial nature of the Holocaust doesn't change that fact. Millions of Chinese civilians died from the Japanese in World War II, millions of Congolese died at the hands of King Leopold and the Belgians at the turn of the 20th century, millions of indigenous peoples in the Americas were killed by Europeans from Spanish conquistadors to American calvarymen. The list of holocausts is endless. But, Americans are supposed to constantly genuflect to an event they had no involvement in whatsoever. And not just Americans - an Indian man has to close his restaurant when millions died in Bengal during World War II due to British policies and nobody cares.

If you simply treat the Jewish dead in the Holocaust equally with gypsy, Polish, and Russian who died in German camps, let alone with the Germans who died in Soviet concentration camps after the war, you're supposedly guilty of Holocaust denial.

[tiggaling]

Germer Rudolf did some tests on the "gas chambers" at Auschiwitz and didn't find any significant amounts of Zyklon B.

The poor guy was imprisoned for "racial hatred"! in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germar_Rudolf

Two others have carried out tests - Leuchter, and a Polish Government agency report:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_Staff.html

neither tests finding any significant amounts of Zyklon B in the gas chambers.

[Roosh]

7 day ban