[CMan0928]

(10-12-2012 10:33 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Has anyone asked this gentleman the obvious question:

How did he get caught eating his boss's lunch?

Good question. But I'm sure the obvious answer is that since it's such a small practice, as he mentioned, it wasn't hard for his coworkers to decipher who was eating their shit. And if he's as obnoxious as he claims all the more reason for them to suspect him, right?

[3rdmilleniummen]

"I can get quite obnoxious at times"
"e.g. eating other staff members food without asking"
"telling me 'you're not the same person we hired at the start'."

And you're seriously wondering why they're saying no to a rise?

[Basil Ransom]

I haven't read most of the thread, but something to keep in mind:

It's not about how much money you bring in, but how much it costs to replace you.

You could be doing a job that makes your boss $200 an hour, and he's only paying you $10. But if he can get someone else to do it for the same price, and do it just as well, then he has little reason to pay you more..

[Butterscotch_stallion]

It's your right to ask for more money. It's their right to keep paying you what you agreed to.

[Bad Hussar]

(10-11-2012 06:50 PM)cibo Wrote:  

Corporations are pussies due to all the regulations they have. HR and all the lawyers tell everyone that for references they can't say more than someone has worked there and had a certain title. After that, everything is grounds for a lawsuit.

Not 100% true. Well, maybe true of HR, but who would trust a reference from HR anyway. they're only useful for stuff like "Mr X worked with us from date1 to date2 as Position Z". You always want to speak to the potential employees line manager, and also ideally the GM/President at the facility where they worked, though this can be more difficult.

I've been on both sides of the reference coin, both giving references for subordinates, and having past managers give them for me. You're very careful about giving negative references, but it can be done "diplomatically". For good people there's really no reason not to give a good reference. Don't ever give a good reference for a problem employee. The world is smaller than you think, and it WILL come back to you.

[Prophylaxis]

Update on the situ - bought in a large amount of food to make amends. Everyone seems really appreciative and treating me with ?more respect now. They are also incredibly supportive about my ongoing learning at the practice.

Seems like some good might have come out of this afterall...

[el mechanico]

(10-15-2012 05:07 PM)Prophylaxis Wrote:  

Update on the situ - bought in a large amount of food to make amends. Everyone seems really appreciative and treating me with ?more respect now. They are also incredibly supportive about my ongoing learning at the practice.

Seems like some good might have come out of this afterall...

Food has almost as much power as puzzy. Don't ever forget that.

[Faust]

Smart move, man. Glad you're taking corrective action rather than saying "Well they're a bunch of retards anyway."
If you find out later that it's a bad fit, and you want to head somewhere else or go out on your own, that option's always there. But it's rarely a good idea to burn bridges.

[JohnKreese]

[HiFlo]

I hope you laced your appeasement offering with laxatives.

The mob will quickly forget about this gesture of kindness, don't you forget that

[aphelion]

-1 to HiFlo. OP was clearly in the wrong even if it's an offense that is relatively minor in our food-secure society today. You can't talk alot about evo psych and how it applies to game and then forget that our caveman hindbrains probably don't appreciate a rival stealing food from us either. If it's reasonable to us that primitive instincts cause a woman to get excited about a badboy alpha male because millions of years of evolution told her to be that way, it should be eminently reasonable that they try to drive you out of the tribe because you're pilfering food from the chief and aren't being particularly cooperative or useful.

Edit: fixed dumb spelling

[HiFlo]

I'll give an example from my past at grad school.

There was a community fridge. I ate a professor's food once because I got back from the gym mid-day and was hungry. Word got back to prof. I took the professor out to dinner a couple weeks later to "make up" for it.

Later on, I got in trouble for showing up high to class and being a general brat, and during my disciplinary hearing they brought up me stealing the prof's food. I told them, "but I bought him an entire nice meal at an awesome restaurant to make up for a half sandwich" & they basically said it didn't matter.

Nothing much ended up with me getting in trouble because I was in the top 5% of my class academically-speaking. But the moral of the story is that only the bad deeds get remembered. Even if you make amends, it will be the previous bad deeds that get brought up time & time again to justify this-or-that. Sorta like no good deed goes unpunished.

I mean, it is what it is. Just move ahead and blow 'em away with stellar performance, and don't forget to keep a rap sheet about how all your coworkers and superiors fuck-up and don't hold their own. The more evidence the better, and it will come in handy one day.

There are no true friendships in bureaucracies.

[Tuthmosis]

Don't eat another man's lunch. Period.

One time a few years ago, I had someone drink a Pepsi in an office I was working for a summer or something. I went aisle-by-aisle asking "who drank my fucking Pepsi? Speak up!" and "Who the fuck drinks someone else's Pepsi? Was that your Pepsi?" I then started asking person by person, "Did you drink my Pepsi?" I kept using the word "Pepsi" like an insane person. The bosses had to come over and calm me down. They offered to buy me a whole case of Pepsi and I was like, "That's not the point!!!" and got up to go scream some more. They were scared, but I calmed down when they told me it had happened to them too and that it was probably one of the fat ladies. Keep in mind this was when I was a younger, and probably beta-er, cat.

If someone eats my food now, I'll beat them within an inch of their life and bite the fuck out of them. I don't give a fuck. Not getting a raise is a charitable result.

Don't eat another man's lunch. Period.

[JohnKreese]

(10-16-2012 09:59 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Don't eat another man's lunch. Period.

One time a few years ago, I had someone drink a Pepsi in an office I was working for a summer or something. I went aisle-by-aisle asking "who drank my fucking Pepsi? Speak up!" and "Who the fuck drinks someone else's Pepsi? Was that your Pepsi?" I then started asking person by person, "Did you drink my Pepsi?" I kept using the word "Pepsi" like an insane person. The bosses had to come over and calm me down. They offered to buy me a whole case of Pepsi and I was like, "That's not the point!!!" and got up to go scream some more. They were scared, but I calmed down when they told me it had happened to them too and that it was probably one of the fat ladies. Keep in mind this was when I was a younger, and probably beta-er, cat.

If someone eats my food now, I'll beat them within an inch of their life and bite the fuck out of them. I don't give a fuck. Not getting a raise is a charitable result.

Don't eat another man's lunch. Period.

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