[Lothario]

5 Nights and 4 days in San Francisco (Part 1)

Alright folks here is my trip report to San Francisco. To sum it up I was received very well in San Francisco and it is truly the most FREE, FRIENDLY, ACCEPTING and EASY GOING city in US in true spirit.Agree with as said by many before that the quality and quantity is not there but plenty of willing 6-7's that are open to be gamed. I really enjoyed spitting my game here and got the feeling that if I lived there can do some major damage.

There are lots of Data Sheets available on the forum on San Francisco so I will limit my post to my experiences and the places I visited.... Links to existing Datasheets

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-2134.html

Big shout out to brother Giovonny, met him in person and we gamed together 2 days in different Venues (More good things about Gio in another Thread). Thanks to Hencredible Casanova for spot on info as well.

Logistics : were stellar for the first 3 nights at a One bedroom apt 3 blocks from Union Square, last 2 nights were on Duboce Triangle.

Story : My go to story was that I live in San Fran, I started with "I was here on a Job Interview and will be moving here" but upon recommendation from Local Players changed the story to “moved here about 2 months ago from NYC” and girls didn’t suspect a thing …. My Pad at Union Square proved to be a big DHV.

Stats: Before you guys invest your time into reading my long ass post, I didn't pull a full close but was able to take 2 girls home in the first 3 nights (Thu - Sat)with some Titty action, both solid leads, If I lived in San Francisco both are done deal, 3 make outs and over a Dozen number. Lost count of number of Approaches well over 75, I will keep posting in the Approach Thread as I remember.

Thursday Night : Approached a cute LA girl on Bart Train from Airport to city who was with her shy BF, I was trying to engage the boy in conversation but he was to shy, girl kept on asking personal questions, I Didn’t push the Issue just out of respect to the boy.


Tunnel Top Bar : (601 Bush Street) Kind of a Dive bar where you will find both Tourists and Locals with a Band playing sometimes and mixed drinks and wine is at a cheap price. Not high end and not low end either. I really liked the place ended up going there two nights.
Only One approach in 30 min here with a Tall white Local 6 , number closed as she was with friends with tentative plans for date on Sunday.

Matrix on fillmore : Bounced here upon recommendation from local players , I suited up and it did made a big difference, The Photogropher complemented me on my suite and guessed I’m from NYC and wanted take my pics with Hot girls there and brought them to me for their pictures to be taken with this Lothario, One of the Girls that looked Russian was a Travelling Nurse that was my Que, I connected with her and after about 10 in of convo suggested to go out and smoke, she couldn’t believe that I smoke , I pulled out my cigarette case, She smelled my mouth and I guess that didn’t satsfy her Hamster and she surprised me with a Sudden Kiss and toungue down my throat …… I was stumbled and not ready for it. She was going to leave with Friends and I number closed with Plans to meet Sunday.

I stood at the Bar at approached girls coming for drinks, One Bottle Blonde came and I opened with “ I can get the Bartenders attention before you can” as she had been standing for a while and bartender girls were not paying any attention. I waived and here they come , she smiled and thanked me and started with Do you live here, where are you from. I detected an accent and asked Colombia, she said no Brazil. She was with friends too who were all Thai Girls and she Introduced me to them, one of them had a BF others were single and looked like were looking for something as well. I hung out with the whole group and they started leaving one by one, We danced on three to 4 songs and then I suggested to my target to bounce to another club and we left for

Cat Lounge: That place sucked and was almost dead it was about 1:45 AM and they were not serving alcohol anymore, I told the girl to lets go to my place and have some wine, she wasn't ready, I told her I have to meet Gio at 10:00 AM and she can come for a glass of wne but can not stay for long, she still wasn't coming, I told her I'm going to get going and we are outside the club and I get a Cab and she changes her mind and says drop me at my place, I told her it is in the other direction, I can't she says Ok i will come with you.

We are at my pad, wine and snacks, I play some chill Lounge music she wants to listen to Il Divo which I was able to play, Started kino, esclated to full massage got my hands rolling on her Bobbies, Hands under the pants and she stopped me, wouldn't let me take the pants off and said just because I'm brazilian don't think i will sleep with on the first night, Absolutely not. I wasn't having any of that and contunued after a freeze of 5 minutes and was able to get my hands under her patnts and started squeezing her butt and light spank. She asked if she can borough my T shirt and Shorts and she will sleep on the Sofa. I invited her to the bed but she wouldn't come, She laid down on the sofa and took a sheet to cover herself and said she will leave in the morning.

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

To be continued later ....................when I have time to type ...........(I think I will limit the post to pertinent info and may be post some Interesting Approaches in the Approach Thread)

[at350zguyy]

Good work, brother. I wish you could have stayed in Chicago long enough for the both of us to suit up.

[Caligula]

Nice report, keep it coming! I like your persistence in getting the close.

[Stun]

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

5 Nights and 4 days in San Francisco (Part 1)

Alright folks here is my trip report to San Francisco. To sum it up I was received very well in San Francisco and it is truly the most FREE, FRIENDLY, ACCEPTING and EASY GOING city in US in true spirit.Agree with as said by many before that the quality and quantity is not there but plenty of willing 6-7's that are open to be gamed. I really enjoyed spitting my game here and got the feeling that if I lived there can do some major damage.

There are lots of Data Sheets available on the forum on San Francisco so I will limit my post to my experiences and the places I visited.... Links to existing Datasheets

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-2134.html

Big shout out to brother Giovonny, met him in person and we gamed together 2 days in different Venues (More good things about Gio in another Thread). Thanks to Hencredible Casanova for spot on info as well.

Logistics : were stellar for the first 3 nights at a One bedroom apt 3 blocks from Union Square, last 2 nights were on Duboce Triangle.

Story : My go to story was that I live in San Fran, I started with "I was here on a Job Interview and will be moving here" but upon recommendation from Local Players changed the story to “moved here about 2 months ago from NYC” and girls didn’t suspect a thing …. My Pad at Union Square proved to be a big DHV.

Stats: Before you guys invest your time into reading my long ass post, I didn't pull a full close but was able to take 2 girls home in the first 3 nights (Thu - Sat)with some Titty action, both solid leads, If I lived in San Francisco both are done deal, 3 make outs and over a Dozen number. Lost count of number of Approaches well over 75, I will keep posting in the Approach Thread as I remember.

Thursday Night : Approached a cute LA girl on Bart Train from Airport to city who was with her shy BF, I was trying to engage the boy in conversation but he was to shy, girl kept on asking personal questions, I Didn’t push the Issue just out of respect to the boy.


Tunnel Top Bar : (601 Bush Street) Kind of a Dive bar where you will find both Tourists and Locals with a Band playing sometimes and mixed drinks and wine is at a cheap price. Not high end and not low end either. I really liked the place ended up going there two nights.
Only One approach in 30 min here with a Tall white Local 6 , number closed as she was with friends with tentative plans for date on Sunday.

Matrix on fillmore : Bounced here upon recommendation from local players , I suited up and it did made a big difference, The Photogropher complemented me on my suite and guessed I’m from NYC and wanted take my pics with Hot girls there and brought them to me for their pictures to be taken with this Lothario, One of the Girls that looked Russian was a Travelling Nurse that was my Que, I connected with her and after about 10 in of convo suggested to go out and smoke, she couldn’t believe that I smoke , I pulled out my cigarette case, She smelled my mouth and I guess that didn’t satsfy her Hamster and she surprised me with a Sudden Kiss and toungue down my throat …… I was stumbled and not ready for it. She was going to leave with Friends and I number closed with Plans to meet Sunday.

I stood at the Bar at approached girls coming for drinks, One Bottle Blonde came and I opened with “ I can get the Bartenders attention before you can” as she had been standing for a while and bartender girls were not paying any attention. I waived and here they come , she smiled and thanked me and started with Do you live here, where are you from. I detected an accent and asked Colombia, she said no Brazil. She was with friends too who were all Thai Girls and she Introduced me to them, one of them had a BF others were single and looked like were looking for something as well. I hung out with the whole group and they started leaving one by one, We danced on three to 4 songs and then I suggested to my target to bounce to another club and we left for

Cat Lounge: That place sucked and was almost dead it was about 1:45 AM and they were not serving alcohol anymore, I told the girl to lets go to my place and have some wine, she wasn't ready, I told her I have to meet Gio at 10:00 AM and she can come for a glass of wne but can not stay for long, she still wasn't coming, I told her I'm going to get going and we are outside the club and I get a Cab and she changes her mind and says drop me at my place, I told her it is in the other direction, I can't she says Ok i will come with you.

We are at my pad, wine and snacks, I play some chill Lounge music she wants to listen to Il Divo which I was able to play, Started kino, esclated to full massage got my hands rolling on her Bobbies, Hands under the pants and she stopped me, wouldn't let me take the pants off and said just because I'm brazilian don't think i will sleep with on the first night, Absolutely not. I wasn't having any of that and contunued after a freeze of 5 minutes and was able to get my hands under her patnts and started squeezing her butt and light spank. She asked if she can borough my T shirt and Shorts and she will sleep on the Sofa. I invited her to the bed but she wouldn't come, She laid down on the sofa and took a sheet to cover herself and said she will leave in the morning.

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

To be continued later ....................when I have time to type ...........(I think I will limit the post to pertinent info and may be post some Interesting Approaches in the Approach Thread)

Good work!

Where is the Cat Lounge? There is no such place.

Do you mean Cat Club? It's a good venue on Thursday nights, one of the most DTF venues in SF, but you are going to find 6's at best.

[Stun]

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

I suited up and it did made a big difference, The Photogropher complemented me on my suite and guessed I’m from NYC and wanted take my pics with Hot girls there and brought them to me for their pictures to be taken with this Lothario

If you know how to dress in this city, women will attack you.

There are tons of men here compared to the number of women, which is a disadvantage to guys, but I am always dumbfounded by how guys allow themselves to appear in public here. It's like 80% of the guys here take themselves out of the game by how they dress.

[Lothario]

(10-10-2012 06:03 PM)Sugar Wrote:  

Good work!

Where is the Cat Lounge? There is no such place.

Do you mean Cat Club? It's a good venue on Thursday nights, one of the most DTF venues in SF, but you are going to find 6's at best.

Thanks Sugar, Yes it was Cat Club and not Lounge, I have also heard that it is good on Tuesdays as well.

http://sfcatclub.com/

Regarding the 6's that what SF is all about isn't it....... JK......, There are Gems there as well just need to find the right location and time.

Quote:

If you know how to dress in this city, women will attack you.

There are tons of men here compared to the number of women, which is a disadvantage to guys, but I am always dumbfounded by how guys allow themselves to appear in public here. It's like 80% of the guys here take themselves out of the game by how they dress.

Agreed dressing well opened a lot of doors for me and if half the men are Gay (Usually dress well) and half the men are Straight and don't dress well then game tips in you favor.

I dig the Vibe from San Francisco, My personality fitted well there...I'm looking at atleast one trip per year.

[Lothario]

Continued (part 2).......

@ 350 Definitely my Man but don't want to come to Chicago till it warms up a little next year.

@Caligula Thanks man I still think my Night game needs more improvement.

Friday: Started with Day game at

Union Square: Agree with HC that it is treat for a Day Gamer I only had an hour before meeting Gio at a local College Campus, I just made a round and looked at some places that I would like to come back like westfield Mall, did few warm up appraoches got on MUNI to a Local college.

College Campus : I would not have gone there myself would have been hesitant but was meeting GIO and was Amazed as to how well I was received at the Campus , Girls entertained all my Approaches except a very direct approach that a Girl didn't even stop. was able to make a connection with few girls and number closed one and one girl took my number but didn't want to share hers. May be a total of 7-8 approaches at the Campus.

Learned the Nuances of College Game from Gio and Hell yeah still doable, Girls entertained the approaches very well. definitely a harder venue compared to union square where I would have lined up a date in 1/2 a day as you will read in the later posts.

Headed back at Sunset to downtown, Dinner, rest and out for Night Game.

Bubble Lounge : 25-35 crowd with some cougars, they weren't digging me , I went to basement and danced a bit with a mixed group, no special Targets there. stood by the bar and approached a mixed girl with " Nice dress" , she started rambling on how she got it from E-bay, then stopped mid-sentence and said wow.... your cologne is amazing, where did you get it from, I have never smelled it before. That was my que to throw a bait , I go into a story how my Dad has a Perfumer friend in Tolouse, France. Then I thought it's an over kill . I started finding out about who she was there with , She drove fron San Jose and were celebrating a friends Birthday, i knew she wouldn't pull that night, number closed and left the place as it was kinda dead.

Decided to switch all the way over to Polk Street and went to a Wine Lounge, I did Opened a few girls walking on Polk street but no connection

Amelie: Really Liked the place and Music, There were four 30ish ladies half drunk and my competition was an older bald man, I hit it off with the ladies but the Mother Hen kept on Cock blocking.. got tired of it and left after a glass of wine.

I do think Wine Lounges and Cigar Bars are more my speed, I mean I do enjoy them and feel at home. To be continued.........

[Lothario]

(Continued part 3)

Saturday : was a field day for me daygaming at Union Square, I didn't get any numbers and or connected with anyone for a good two hours and then at Westfield fall at a store, an employee opens me with " that's a rad belt buckle you got there " and "I almost wore same kind of necklace today", we bantered for a little, She had a BF and didn't want to give me her number.

Next section over a Tall African Nubian princess , kind of like the one Nuaghty nomad talks about, She opens me with " Nice Belt buckle sir" "wow nice shoes" , asks me what I am looking for and we search together for a bit , then she asks me where am I from ....She hooked pretty well, it was a pleasure listening to her French accent. She was from Congo and started thinking about a Congolese Flag , well we set up a date for the evening and I left. went for lunch did some shopping and came back to the pad to do some planning and rest.

Night: She calls to tell me she will be 15 min late as she drove home to berkley to get ready (Good Sign), I told her to meet me @ Cafe Nile[u] on Jones street, but as I was waiting for her thought this is not going to be conducive for Alcohol as it was a Hookah Lounge with Coffee and o one was drinking.

Texted her to instead meet me at Jones 330 Bar ? I'm forgetting the name and address of the place, she came there in a nice revealing top and tight jeans, The place was a nice cool hangout place for a pre party, we had chanpagne and she stated she is drunk as she doesn't drink much. we bounced to a Thai place had some food and then right across the street to my Apt , She said that was convinient, No resistance pulling her to my apt. She didn't want to drink any, listened to Bob Marley, shaggy etc and I started messaging her back where she had pain before, Shirt off, she still wouldn't kiss me , I thought she is one of those that might fuck but no kiss. ...Ok..... i escalated but she wouldn't let me take her jeans off. After pushing and pullinf for good 45min to an hour she decided to leave as she had to get up early to work and left around 12:30.

She gets home and texts me " I'm home safe, had a great time and thanks for taking me out today" . I think she likes me a lot and I can bang her if I lived in SF.... Oh well... she wasted my Sat night which was supposed to be the busiest night of the week but I had to play it to see it. Pulled an another one to apt but no Bang , This shit is pissing me off, missed out on going to booty SF and Infusion Lounge which could have been better........

[Lothario]

(Continued part 4)

Sunday: I had to change the apt to close to Duboce park, Apt was a Nice modern one but was not too close to action.

Day: Decided to check out Castro street fairhttp://www.castrostreetfair.org/index.html

Initially I thought not a good hangout place as there were a lot of Gays and Lesbians but then i thought any straight girl would not have been approached today and started looking for lonesome girls. every single one that i found was entertaining and they gave me the time of the day, i connected with one from San mateo but upon trying to get a coffee date said her husband would mind it, i could see the attraction in her eyes, i asked her to hook me up with her single friends, she told me to come to San mateo but didn'twant or exchange numbers or emails etc.

Gio came for few hours and we approached all different kind of girls, Girls from amsterdam, denmark, Palestine, Hippie girls. let me tell you guys Gio understands them Hippie girls. One of the two was a cute blonde with greenish/bluish eyes, we bantered with them for about 15- 20 min and they did contemplated for a Tea/Coffee date right there and then and finally decided to go to another event in the city. We exchanged numbers as they had Indicated that they didn't had a place to sleep and I told them they are welcome to crash at mi casa...

Gio left I kept on trolling and got another number from an Obama Supporter and told her my views on healthcare, She wanted to meet Monday for coffee, number closed and went home.

Night:Sunday night was the slowest, Gio came a little later and we went to the Elbo room in Mission District and they has a reggae night where I opened a Persian girl who was rather heavy set and i wasn't too much into it.

Elbo room wasn't too busy that night , Downstairs bar had few girls that we bantered with and opened may be one on the street and decided to rather go home and call it a night.....

[LonerWithABoner]

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

You should have just let her sleep on the couch.

Sounds like she was into you and would have fucked you within a couple of days. She just didn't want to be a slut and bang you a few hours after you met.

[Lothario]

(10-11-2012 03:15 PM)LonerWithABoner Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

You should have just let her sleep on the couch.

Sounds like she was into you and would have fucked you within a couple of days. She just didn't want to be a slut and bang you a few hours after you met.

Agreed, I have a feeling I could have fucked her on 2nd or 3rd date........ Boy Oh Boy....... If I had the Luxury of doing 2nd or 3rd dates my Notch count will double or triple. I ususally am in a City for 3-4 day max and am looking for ASAP pussy.

I keep the numbers of the girls that i connect with, make an excuse and keep a light contact via texts every few weeks and do get the bangs occasionally when I revisit a city and that is the only play I have........

[iknowexactly]

(10-11-2012 03:15 PM)LonerWithABoner Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

You should have just let her sleep on the couch.

Sounds like she was into you and would have fucked you within a couple of days. She just didn't want to be a slut and bang you a few hours after you met.

Yeah and throwing someone out in the middle of the night is just kind of inhospitable after you invite them over. But mean guys get chicks, so it's up to you...

[Lothario]

Agree with you IKE, Inhospitable Yes, But I am 100 % sure that was the only play I had to convert into a Lay, Reason I say this is my starting mistake about three years ago was just being too Nice, I am still a nice person to Friends , Family and everyone else but girls on the hook get a slightly different treatment.......and there are good two occasions I can tell you where a non-bang was converted into a bang when I told the girl to just leave. here are some of my experiences in this regard

1. I am with a Colombiana in FL and after about 2 hrs of LMR, Shit tests and Freeze outs, she wasn't giving it up, I had an early flight at 06:30, I got up and started packing, folding my shirts etc and told her she can leave if she wants to I am going to sleep for a few hours before my flight and she turns around and says, come lay down with me, why are you uninterested, after taking care of my stuff, I laid down turned the lights and TV off and was truly tring to sleep when she hugs me and says " Do you have Condom"

Lesson Learnt: I meant it when I told her to leave, it wasn't a trick to try to change her mind. I had lost interest in her for real and not just pretending to act aloof. I meant it when I told her I am going to sleep ....Girl can sniff when it is real ..... and that is what turned her on.

2. 2nd time this other girl was in an Isolation spot with me and wasn't giving it up, we had a long ass date planned and towards the middle of the date she started the shit tests again like the very first encounter and I literally got pissed, got out of the bed, put my clothes back on, shoes on and called a friend to come pick me up, she got up and said but we have to finish the movie, came lie down with me, she came to the end of the bed and grabbed my hand to pull me in bed, I told her there is only one way i will ever do that is if you pull my pants down and suck my dick. she went back tobed and I started making a pot of coffee while waiting for my friend.

She gets out of the bed , comes and undresses me and starts sucking my dick, before moving to bed she asks me call my friend and tell him not to come, I make a fake phone call, get in bed , pound the pussy, get in shower, dress and leave as my friend was ouside waiting fro me.

3. On the contrary One girl got hooked because of my " James Dean " Vibe I was giving her and being a Non-Conformist but that was all an act and I started getting comfortable with the girl and my real beta self started coming out, I actually started liking the girl and started doing beta stuff like holding hands, getting her flowers just beacuse i wanted to and guess what her attraction for me disappeared...... and I lost her.

e-mech says it rightly if you are not naturally a Dickhead, It's a constant effort and difficult to be one .....

[chochemonger1]

(10-12-2012 02:47 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(10-11-2012 03:15 PM)LonerWithABoner Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

You should have just let her sleep on the couch.

Sounds like she was into you and would have fucked you within a couple of days. She just didn't want to be a slut and bang you a few hours after you met.

Yeah and throwing someone out in the middle of the night is just kind of inhospitable after you invite them over. But mean guys get chicks, so it's up to you...

Throwing girls out, when they dont put out, should be standard operating procedure, unless she is hot and it was only the first date in a place that you will be staying for awhile. Good move Lothario.

[Lothario]

(10-12-2012 10:50 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(10-12-2012 02:47 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(10-11-2012 03:15 PM)LonerWithABoner Wrote:  

(10-10-2012 02:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

I escalated one more time , she got up and fixed her Bra and put her shirt on and started to lay down on the sofa , It was about 3:30 in the morning, I decided to play the last trick up my sleeve and told her I can not allow her to sleep here, she pleaded to let her sleep on the sofa , I said bed, she didn't agree and was kicked out at close to 4 in the morning. Got some nasty texts from her the next day...... Guess I'm turning into a little bit of an Asshole

You should have just let her sleep on the couch.

Sounds like she was into you and would have fucked you within a couple of days. She just didn't want to be a slut and bang you a few hours after you met.

Yeah and throwing someone out in the middle of the night is just kind of inhospitable after you invite them over. But mean guys get chicks, so it's up to you...

Throwing girls out, when they dont put out, should be standard operating procedure, unless she is hot and it was only the first date in a place that you will be staying for awhile. Good move Lothario.

Thanks Chochemonger, That is the conclusion I have come to after much trial and error.....

I have a little bit more left on San fran, will post as soon as I get some time to type......