Quote: (01-20-2019 10:59 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:
Yeah, buncha people say this each time it's come up too. Each time they've been proven pretty conclusively wrong. Culture controls philosophy, not the other way around, and culture is controlled in large part by race. 20th-21st century philosophy is mostly a circle jerk which changes no minds and influences nobody.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Why don't you write some killer posts about philosophy and religion and change the discussion yourself, instead of telling other people what you think they need to do?
Yeah, you are correct it has come up a few times. But this forum and the Manosphere did make good progress prior to the Alt-RIght moving in. It has come up a few times but it looks like we are slowly moving away from the Alt-Right and getting back to the original spirit of the Manosphere.
I am planning to write up some Philosophy post but dont expect many interesting responses, given the Deep forum was already closed down.
I think we need to get together and try and agree on some Philosophical foundations, from which we can agree to work together. The problem is Men have their own ideas about Religion/Philosophy, so we need to try and get a more objective and universal Philosophy that we can all agree on as a good starting point.
I propose we can do this by looking at Indo-European Religion, History and Philosophy. We start off by considering Indo-European Literature as a starting point and develop Philosophy as commentary on that.
All religions seem to have some Literature as a basis, eg The Bible, Quran, Vedas, etc Indo European Philosophy will start off with the acceptance of all Indo European literature and aim to derive Philosophy from that.
I already have some good results from this perspective so will write that up. But I think we need a more concerted effort to try and agree on a foundation, even if not all people here will take Indo-European as a foundation, but the Christians and others who disagree, already have their own position, which they are free to develop ideas from and influence society, as we can from Indo European Literature.