[jariel]

Quote:

A newspaper said Monday that Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who is serving a 28-year-sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman, has impregnated a woman while imprisoned in Lima.

The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf cited Van der Sloot's lawyer Maximo Altez as saying the pregnancy is past its third month, and Van der Sloot himself as having confirmed the news in a telephone call on Saturday.

"A test has proved" the pregnancy, the paper quoted Van der Sloot as saying.

The woman, identified by the paper only as "Leidi," was said to have become pregnant during an unsupervised visit with Van der Sloot. It was not clear whether that is allowed or possible under Peruvian prison rules.

Media in Peru last year identified a woman named Leydi Figueroa Uceda as Van der Sloot's girlfriend, and said they had conceived a son together, but she denied it. Altez then described the pair as "friends."

In De Telegraaf Van der Sloot said "Leidi" uses the birth control pill but had apparently forgotten to take it and she would not have an abortion due to her Catholic faith. He said he didn't have DNA proof the child is his, but he believes it to be.

Van der Sloot is a self-described liar, having repeatedly confessed to killing U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in 2005, and later retracting the confessions. He is the last person known to have seen her alive.

He was convicted for the 2010 robbing and killing of Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel room after meeting her in a nearby casino. He is wanted by authorities in the U.S. for allegedly extorting money from the Holloway family on the promise of revealing the location of her body.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-imprisoned-...53579.html

[Spike]

Van der sloot never repeatedly confessed he murdered Natalie Holoway. He once told a story about it on hidden camera but that sounded like obvious bullshit but it was hardly a confession.

I tried to visit him with my Lima GF when I was there but couldn't find any info on visiting hours or if it was even allowed. The Castro Castro prison was a two hour drive away so I didn't just want to show up and gamble on it.

[Timoteo]

Van Der Sloot is a piece of work! This kind of thing actually happens in prison all the time - often it's inmates banging out female prison employees. This time he managed to sneak in an unapproved conjugal visit. His kid will be a grown man by the time he gets out of prison. I'm curious as to whether or not he'd be granted citizenship in Peru to avoid extradition to the US. Considering he murdered one of their citizens, I'd expect they'd be anxious to ship him off. The fact that he fathered a child by one of their nationals makes this interesting.

[Therapsid]

I dated a girl who ran into Van der Sloot and his pals in Aruba. Guy did body shots on her - probably banged her too. Short Jewish princess. I can confirm that for the sake of humanity, it would have been better her than Natalie Holloway.

When I fucked around with her I hadn't yet swallowed the red pill. It's interesting to me how hypergamous girls can shuttle between alpha serial murderers and beta nice guys.

[truedat]

Damn Neil. Why the fuck would you want to visit that guy? Just because he is Dutch also? He looks like a fucking retard maniac. WTF why?

[Timoteo]

Murderers and serial killers get tons of letters and marriage proposals from chicks. It's crazy. OJ always had a girlfriend. There's always some chick willing to step up, and for some reason are attracted to guys like this.

[scotian]

I was so glad when that bastard was arrested and sent to the clink just so I didn't have to hear Nancy Grace ranting and raving about him anymore.

[Norset]

(10-08-2012 02:54 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Murderers and serial killers get tons of letters and marriage proposals from chicks. It's crazy. OJ always had a girlfriend. There's always some chick willing to step up, and for some reason are attracted to guys like this.

It's not strange at all. If you kill another human being (especially another man), and are able to live through it - you won. Doesn't matter if you're in jail, you came out on top. Especially in countries were prisoners are allowed to communicate with the outside world, and even worse in cases like this have the potential to father offspring. Given some equilibrium between the girl's social class, access to attractive men and attractiveness, and inability to think long term, a relationship with a convicted murderer (even when he's in jail) is a better deal than a local loser.

The logical implication of this mechanism, if it morally offends you, is the immediate execution of convicted murderers. That's how the West used to work. Or the "remote slave labor" type deal. Creates healthy shame.

Before that again, all free men were armed at all times, and you could kill another man in a duel without legal implications. We're in a very strange period of time, that has never happened before, where you essentially receive government protection for murders. Then this happens.

[bacon]

i lived in peru when van der sloot was arrested. i had dutch friends who where stigmatized by society in ways i couldnt believe. girls literally were scared of men who looked like van der sloot and i saw them running away from them on street.

[Tex Pro]

Van Der Sloot is a straight Alpha.

To all dudes who can't get laid, Van Der Sloot got laid in prison & seeded the bitch!

Inspirational to say the least.

[Timoteo]

There's nothing alpha about Van Der Sloot. There's nothing in him that I see worth idolizing. He murdered a couple of helpless chicks, and managed to impregnate another pitiful chick without better options apparently. No matter how things are out on the street, any chick that sends love letters to serial killers that they've never met in prison has serious issues, and it has nothing to do with the supposed alpha cred of the convict.

[porscheguy]

(10-08-2012 11:20 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

There's nothing alpha about Van Der Sloot. There's nothing in him that I see worth idolizing. He murdered a couple of helpless chicks, and managed to impregnate another pitiful chick without better options apparently. No matter how things are out on the street, any chick that sends love letters to serial killers that they've never met in prison has serious issues, and it has nothing to do with the supposed alpha cred of the convict.

I have to agree. Killing a dumb teenage girl while she's on vacation is not alpha. Killing another dumb girl because she looked at your computer without permission is not alpha. This is a guy who has serious issues with women. And women who fuck cons while they're still locked up have issues as well.

Van Der Sloot is somewhere between a sociopath and some kind of Super-sperg. I don't see much to idolize about the guy. There's nothing alpha about going to prison for 28 years because some girl made you mad.

[Tex Pro]

Van Der Sloot sounds pretty Alpha to me, at least by Roissy's definition of Alpha. Alpha has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Excelsior]

I'm with Timoteo on this one.

(10-09-2012 12:04 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Van Der Sloot sounds pretty Alpha to me, at least by Roissy's definition of Alpha. Alpha has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

You're only bursting the bubbles of those who subscribe fully to what you say is Roissy's definition of Alpha, and who believe him to be the final authority on such things.

Not everyone here fits that bill, and many may give much less weight to the notion of what is "alpha" in the Roissy sense than others in the manosphere (like yourself) do.

I certainly don't consider this man or his actions in "seeding a bitch" while imprisoned to be "inspirational". That sounds absurd to me, actually, though if one were a committed subscriber to the Roissy world view, I could see how they'd buy that.

[bacon]

hes a sociopath but to call him beta is nuts he clearly is operating on a level betas couldnt deal with.

"Peruvian magazine Panorama alleges that van der Sloot stabbed three prisoners, with at least one victim needing emergency medical care"
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/13/report...w-inmates/

[Timoteo]

(10-08-2012 10:52 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Van Der Sloot is a straight Alpha.

To all dudes who can't get laid, Van Der Sloot got laid in prison & seeded the bitch!

Inspirational to say the least.

Lots of fucking goes on in prison. Van Der Sloot isn't exceptional in that regard. Mike Tyson knocked up a female guard when he was in the joint, and that happens more than we'll ever know. On Rikers Island and plenty of other prisons, guys are fucking their visiting girlfriends and wives in the corners of the visiting rooms with guards right there.

[OGNorCal707]

Some bizarre replies on this thread, I guess the Roissy crowd is slowly creeping into the RVF...

[Timoteo]

If anything, Van Der Sloot was a spoiled child of privilege with psychological problems. He was a pathological liar and a compulsive gambler, who's parents threw up their hands because they couldn't control him, sending him to a shrink. He bankrupted his family with his legal issues, and his father ended up dying on the tennis court of a heart attack, probably out of humiliation because his criminal son cost him his standing and reputation. Dude fancied himself as some kind of international criminal mastermind or something.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Chicks Dig Jerks #56136361636. Nothing else to see here.

[Spike]

(10-08-2012 02:41 PM)truedat Wrote:  

Damn Neil. Why the fuck would you want to visit that guy? Just because he is Dutch also? He looks like a fucking retard maniac. WTF why?

Well, he's quite famous in Holland and It would have made a good story for the book.
The guy is a psycho but no retard, he's well educated and fluent in 4 languages. Dutch, English,Spanish and papiamento ( Dutch island language)

I'm not denying that this is one evil dude and that it's good he's locked up.
That said, I do believe the guy is Alpha. He was a well known player in Aruba at a young age, he's very manipulative and even after he killed Holloway he returned to Holland, was famous here, went back to school and got laid quite often. The guy is a loose cannon though. After he left Holland he was involved in selling Thai girls in the local prostitution rings in Thailand and went on a gambling rampage through South America which ended wit the death of that Peruvian girl.
It's the fact that he's very cunning and manipulative that keeps him alive. I read somewhere that with a few days in Peruvian prison he already made several connections with gangmembers and had people running errands for him.

About Holloway, I suspect it was more something like a cover up of a nasty accident on drugs than that he killed her on purpose. He was not alone that night but with two other guys who were brothers. His father was a high ranking member of society and a JUDGE, of course this was a cover up.

[WanderingSoul]

(10-09-2012 12:04 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Van Der Sloot sounds pretty Alpha to me, at least by Roissy's definition of Alpha. Alpha has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

He murdered two teen girls and impregnated a hog of a Peruvian chick. You should set your sights a bit higher when you pick someone to swoon after.

[Tex Pro]

(10-09-2012 03:25 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 12:04 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Van Der Sloot sounds pretty Alpha to me, at least by Roissy's definition of Alpha. Alpha has nothing to do with right or wrong.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

He murdered two teen girls and impregnated a hog of a Peruvian chick. You should set your sights a bit higher when you pick someone to swoon after.

Not swooning after the guy, just saying that what I've read about the dude seems pretty Alpha. Read Neil's comment above yours for some background.

[porscheguy]

(10-09-2012 03:13 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

About Holloway, I suspect it was more something like a cover up of a nasty accident on drugs than that he killed her on purpose. He was not alone that night but with two other guys who were brothers. His father was a high ranking member of society and a JUDGE, of course this was a cover up.

So do you think OJ is going to dedicate his life to finding the real killers of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman when he gets out on parole in a few years?

[Spike]

(10-09-2012 07:09 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(10-09-2012 03:13 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

About Holloway, I suspect it was more something like a cover up of a nasty accident on drugs than that he killed her on purpose. He was not alone that night but with two other guys who were brothers. His father was a high ranking member of society and a JUDGE, of course this was a cover up.

So do you think OJ is going to dedicate his life to finding the real killers of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman when he gets out on parole in a few years?

Eh, maybe you need to read the above again. I do believe he was involved in the disappearance of Holoway but according to the things he admitted she (already drunk) had some short of drugs infused seizure similar to an epileptic attack. He admitted and lied about a lot of things but I find this reasonable.

It's possible they (Joran and the two other guys/brothers) supplied her with (bad) drugs and she died because of it. They made the body disappear after realizing their mistake but not willing to take the blame for it. His father (a local judge) wanting to avoid embarrassment and a lifelong sentence and probably helped his still teenage son to cover it up. he sure did have the money and power to do this.

I think most dads wouldn't turn their teenage son in knowing he would serve life in prison. I would have to think hard about such a thing if it were my son.

Things turned to the worse after this.

[Samseau]

The whole point of labeling der Sloot as alpha is to show the amoral sexual nature of females. If you're offended by that, it doesn't matter. Amoral is supposed to offend you.