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When a virgin says no
I doubt she's telling the truth, but if she is, you're lucky and you should continue what you're already doing and be patient. Good girls are really rare, don't burn her and don't turn her into a cunt please.
I think you are going good
i had a situation where a girl said she wouldnt have sex because it was against her religion so I said that's something important to me and left her - then 2 days later she said she wanted to break her rule
think this is a different situation you just have to turn her on alot then go for it
i had a situation where a girl said she wouldnt have sex because it was against her religion so I said that's something important to me and left her - then 2 days later she said she wanted to break her rule
think this is a different situation you just have to turn her on alot then go for it
You did the right thing brother. A virgin can and will hold their V-card with a certain amount of protectivity, as they should. You both value the act of defloration.
The key here is to notice that this is a game of resources. You both bring something to the table that is of value to the other. For her, she is bringing her virginity (sexual resource). You need to realize that you have resources that she wants as well. This could range from money, security, or simply just attention. Nontheless, she is obviously sticking around you for something.
Stringing you along with sex deprivation is her way of weening you off her resources in question (even if it's not a conscious decision of hers, in fact, it stands true).If you are really out to bang this girl, you must slowly ween her off your resources. For example:
- You were taking her out to eat twice a week; now only once.
-You would text her "good night" before bed every night; now maybe twice a week
-She calls or texts you; finish what it is that you may be doing (no matter how long), and then reply.
-You usually sleep over at her place; now, just watch a movie and split,
Things like this will pick her hamster up and put it on the wheel, meanwhile flicking the wheel with dread about your intentions and whereabouts.
This is some simple Pavlov shit; but boy does it work, especially with young women who've never experienced it.
When she does cave, feel free to go back to your old ways and allow her to extract resources as you see fit. -Chubby
The key here is to notice that this is a game of resources. You both bring something to the table that is of value to the other. For her, she is bringing her virginity (sexual resource). You need to realize that you have resources that she wants as well. This could range from money, security, or simply just attention. Nontheless, she is obviously sticking around you for something.
Stringing you along with sex deprivation is her way of weening you off her resources in question (even if it's not a conscious decision of hers, in fact, it stands true).If you are really out to bang this girl, you must slowly ween her off your resources. For example:
- You were taking her out to eat twice a week; now only once.
-You would text her "good night" before bed every night; now maybe twice a week
-She calls or texts you; finish what it is that you may be doing (no matter how long), and then reply.
-You usually sleep over at her place; now, just watch a movie and split,
Things like this will pick her hamster up and put it on the wheel, meanwhile flicking the wheel with dread about your intentions and whereabouts.
This is some simple Pavlov shit; but boy does it work, especially with young women who've never experienced it.
When she does cave, feel free to go back to your old ways and allow her to extract resources as you see fit. -Chubby
Iv dealt with this, and my advise to give you is to go slow and make her comfortable with the idea but also show that it all leads to losing her virginity.
keep pushing the frontier.
If she doesn't yield, maybe she's not ready and you're better off with someone else.
keep pushing the frontier.
If she doesn't yield, maybe she's not ready and you're better off with someone else.
Run. Its not worth the time and effort. You already wasted a month or so. Her last boyfriend wasted a year.
I dated this girl my senior year of college for a bit, because she was hot (19y.o. solid 7.5, blonde, big tits, shapely athletic legs. I took her to bed the first night I met her, and despite her being very obviously horny she resisted my advances. For some reason I sensed it, and asked her outright if she was a virgin. She was.
That same night I did something else I had never done. I asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend ( I know, very High School) and she said yes. Also soon discovered she had broken up with her boyfriend of 1.5 years 2 weeks ago.
So I knew I had to build comfort before she would put out, but if she was too comfortable I could easily fall into the same trap as the last boyfriend. She wanted to wait at least 2 months, I said "maybe." I would tastefully reveal to her in small pieces parts of my player "past" and flirt with other girls in front of her.
As a result she was constantly asking me how long I could go without sex, and if I would cheat on her if she didn't put out soon (this was only several days into the relationship). She felt I was a serious flight risk (I was).
Instilling dread in her didn't mean I was a cold asshole though, I was very affectionate to her and rewarded her good behavior. But I made sure to hold the frame that it was a struggle for me as a sexually experienced man to go without sex (Don't directly say that! it sounds like pussy beggary).
A couple weeks after we met (and started dating) we both got drunk at a party and she literally came up to me, grabbed my dick, and told me she wanted me to fuck her. I took her home immediately and pounded her brains out.
The next day she had some regret and their were a few shit tests down the road about wanting to go back to being a virgin (how?), and regretting she did it drunk. but she realized that once the floodgates were opened there is really no going back.
So build comfort, instill dread, make your manly needs known, make it known that you don't NEED her to fulfill those needs, and don't take her resistance to losing her virginity seriously. Its not a big deal. Also don't be a pussy and be afraid for the first time to involve alcohol. There is no such thing as the RIGHT TIME for a girl to lose her virginity (besides maybe after marrying a prince).
That same night I did something else I had never done. I asked her if she wanted to be my girlfriend ( I know, very High School) and she said yes. Also soon discovered she had broken up with her boyfriend of 1.5 years 2 weeks ago.
So I knew I had to build comfort before she would put out, but if she was too comfortable I could easily fall into the same trap as the last boyfriend. She wanted to wait at least 2 months, I said "maybe." I would tastefully reveal to her in small pieces parts of my player "past" and flirt with other girls in front of her.
As a result she was constantly asking me how long I could go without sex, and if I would cheat on her if she didn't put out soon (this was only several days into the relationship). She felt I was a serious flight risk (I was).
Instilling dread in her didn't mean I was a cold asshole though, I was very affectionate to her and rewarded her good behavior. But I made sure to hold the frame that it was a struggle for me as a sexually experienced man to go without sex (Don't directly say that! it sounds like pussy beggary).
A couple weeks after we met (and started dating) we both got drunk at a party and she literally came up to me, grabbed my dick, and told me she wanted me to fuck her. I took her home immediately and pounded her brains out.
The next day she had some regret and their were a few shit tests down the road about wanting to go back to being a virgin (how?), and regretting she did it drunk. but she realized that once the floodgates were opened there is really no going back.
So build comfort, instill dread, make your manly needs known, make it known that you don't NEED her to fulfill those needs, and don't take her resistance to losing her virginity seriously. Its not a big deal. Also don't be a pussy and be afraid for the first time to involve alcohol. There is no such thing as the RIGHT TIME for a girl to lose her virginity (besides maybe after marrying a prince).
Not worth it. I've had the chance with two virgins.
The first one wanted me to meet her parents after the first date. She was also boring to be around. After three dates she wouldn't put out or give me a courtesy cock stroke while making out.
The second one was recent and is more relevant to your situation. I met her at the library and made out with her when I dropped her off at her dorm. I contacted her a couple days later and she came over to watch Netflix. I thought I was banging for sure. I picked her up and did my signature move
(But onto my bed)
Once on the bed she kept telling me stop and no but I know better so I kept trying to finger fuck her. I would stop for a minute and kiss her again. I kept trying to take her clothes. I tried everything!
But still nothing. She treated my dick like it was lava and it wasn't even out yet.
I stopped and just laid there. Then she told me she is a virgin.
Blah blah blah long story short she said she wanted to wait until thanksgiving. I thought that I could change her mind as to allow me to fuck her but after three dates she still wouldn't let me. I even got her drunk. The only other thing left to try is to smoke with her but I'm not spending 20 bucks for a G on a chick who seems to be stringing be along; possibly for an ego boost.
The first one wanted me to meet her parents after the first date. She was also boring to be around. After three dates she wouldn't put out or give me a courtesy cock stroke while making out.
The second one was recent and is more relevant to your situation. I met her at the library and made out with her when I dropped her off at her dorm. I contacted her a couple days later and she came over to watch Netflix. I thought I was banging for sure. I picked her up and did my signature move
(But onto my bed)
Once on the bed she kept telling me stop and no but I know better so I kept trying to finger fuck her. I would stop for a minute and kiss her again. I kept trying to take her clothes. I tried everything!
But still nothing. She treated my dick like it was lava and it wasn't even out yet.
I stopped and just laid there. Then she told me she is a virgin.
Blah blah blah long story short she said she wanted to wait until thanksgiving. I thought that I could change her mind as to allow me to fuck her but after three dates she still wouldn't let me. I even got her drunk. The only other thing left to try is to smoke with her but I'm not spending 20 bucks for a G on a chick who seems to be stringing be along; possibly for an ego boost.
Its not too hard to take the V card for a 20 year old virgin. They are just looking for the right guy. The last virgin I had was 26. That takes a lot more work.
See how far you can push the line. If she doesn't give you oral next time, game over.
See how far you can push the line. If she doesn't give you oral next time, game over.
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I might have tried to get her more familiar and comfortable with my dick. I would have asked her to touch me. Play with it a little. Maybe remove some of the mystery surrounding the dick. Reassure her that you won't push for sex, but try to ramp up the sexual play. Maybe even try to get her to kiss it or put it in her mouth. All in the name of training and building comfort (and horniness) in her. I'd keep her as a project, since she's as rare as a four-leafed clover or a unicorn. But you need to be fucking other bitches until she starts putting out, and if you feel like you're getting played trying to get it, back off. I respect that she's held onto her V-Card until now, but it's about time she gave that shit up.
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
At this point in my life, I would make her my main girl if she was nice and treated me good (which I'm assuming because she's a 20 year old virgin). Just give her plenty of alcohol and keep trying different things to make her so wet that she wants your dick inside her.
Quote: (10-08-2012 07:23 AM)big poppa Wrote:
Been seeing this girl for a month or so, the other night she's in my bed, pants off.. im ready to hit, get the condom out.. and she says "... not tonight. ive never done this before". She's a virgin and started saying how she wanted to feel more comfortable around me before we had sex.
i was pretty surprised.. shes 20 years old, a 'good' girl (if such a thing exists).. i eased up but continued foreplay and making out, then dropped her home... She asked me if i was willing to wait a little longer and i told her i was.
Should i have been more persistent? Should i have used more "push/pull", or just accept the fact that this one might take a little longer than i would like.. For what it's worth, shes a solid 7.5, LTR worthy from what i have gathered, and basically a good down to earth girl.
She then mentioned that she had a previous boyfriend for a year who she never banged (WTF?? obviously he was a massive beta but is this a red flag on her part?).
Thoughts?
This happens with virgins, I don't like them because they suck in bed....but if you like her move forward and slide your dick in....her pants is off....its obvious she wants to have sex...her action speaks louder...pants is off....precede as usually....
banged a 19yo virgin on wednesday. times are good. took 20mins to get full stroke.
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