[Deluge]

I had a similar experience a few days ago: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9856-p...#pid280648

[brianmark]

I spent most of two years overseas and when I came back, I couldn't watch TV. Real news in the USA doesn't even exist anymore. You get better news about USA while living overseas. God help us in USA, because this is a reflection of what we are interested in: Nothing but trash Reality Shows!

[Pappy]

I haven't had a TV for about 10 years... everytime I open the TV at someone else place, it ends up making me angry. It's either bad news, commercials, or stupid shows.

[kdolo]

(10-06-2012 04:38 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Women consume more than men, hence they are pandered to.

Women in fact are more easily influenced by TV and Commercials - hence being pandered to.

[HiFlo]

It's OK in moderation.

Network TV's The Mentalist is OK in moderation.

Otherwise, you're gonna be going to HBO/Showtime/History for the good stuff.

[bacon]

this shit is in music videos too.

in katy perrys part of me she finds out her man is cheating then joins the military to become a BADASS. she literally transforms into a guy in this video. this is outright propoganda highlighting how STRONG women are and that men are decietful cheaters

[scorpion]

Honestly, television is a wasteland with almost zero redeeming features.

One of its most insidious effects is its ability to subconsciously re-program the viewer's idea of what constitutes social norms.

Television is called programming for a reason. It is literally a mass-brainwashing device. It pumps images and sounds directly in to your brain, and those images and sounds are created and distributed mostly by large corporations.

This is most evident and blatant when watching commercials, but the damage is done through the content of the programs themselves as well.

People subconsciously mimic the behaviors they see people engaging in on television. What do you think happens when a girl watches 20 hours of trashy reality television a week? She turns into the average American female.

This book totally changed the way I think about television, I recommend it to all RVFers and think it would make a good candidate for a Roosh book review: http://www.amazon.com/Arguments-Eliminat...688082742/

[storm]

(10-06-2012 07:00 PM)Sabra Wrote:  

Back in the day we had Jeopardy. 30 minutes of real smart people answering tough questions about the humanities, classics, science, etc. Subjects a well-educated person was expected to know. The smartest and quickest would win around $40,000 a show.

Before the 2008 crash there was 'The Weakest Link', where they dumbed down the questions and players got ahead by screwing each other over.

After 2008, 'Who wants to be a Millionaire" became the most popular game show. Pointless questions on useless trivia - pop music, reality stars and whatnot. But the grand prize is $1,000,000, for completely random, useless knowledge. What's the message - you can get ahead even without putting in real sweat.

So the question isn't 'what's up with American television'. It's 'what's up with American society'?

They're pandering for market share. People love it when they can answer questions on a trivia show, it makes them feel so smart. By dumbing down the questions (and making them multiple choice) they can naively expect to get more viewers. And this may be working:

Jeopardy: 9 million viewers (average)
WWTBAM: 19.2 million viewers (march 1999)


And as to the blatant pandering to women in television: Women are 85% of consumer purchasing power, and producers of consumer goods only stand to benefit as that number goes up.

Besides, young men, who are more likely to be depressed are more likely to watch television. Self-loathing goes hand in hand with depression. I would think they aren't hurting their ratings too much by taking this side.

After all, it's all about money. There's no secret feminist media conspiracy to create a generation of wimpy men. All of this - everything - is there because it is making somebody a profit to be there.

[HeyPete]

I just saw where the History Channel is running a series starting Oct. 16 called .. "The Men Who Built America!"

I wonder what the feminazis will have to say about that?

[Kona]

(10-06-2012 03:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

2. A Citibank commercial where a guy gets dumped. To "get his ex back" he uses his awesome credit card to go backstage at an Alicia Keys concert and gets a backstage photo with her while she stares longingly into his eyes. The commercial says not to worry about having a relationship as long as you can pay for a fleeting experience.

I just saw that commercial on tv. That guy is using a Mac book at the beginning which means he is gay.

You can buy a macbook or an iphone or ipad with yur credit card and continue to watch America go down the shitter. Fuck Steve Jobs.

Aloha!

[Spike]

(10-06-2012 07:54 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 07:00 PM)Sabra Wrote:  

Just a reflection of the direction of society.

Back in the day, there was 'This Old House'. No b.s., just good, practical info on home repair.

Before the economy crashed in 2008, 'This Old House' was replaced by those 'home-flipping' shows where everyone all of a sudden was a real estate genius and contractor, and was 'flipping houses' in a week or two and getting rich quick. No real renovation knowledge, just people making money in a bubble.

Nowadays there's that terrible 'Extreme Home Makeover' show (wifey loves it), one hour of idiotic drama with some spiky haired ass talking about how amazing some family is, and basically just handing them over an upgraded home. Wonder how long these amazing families last with the bills and upkeep on these upgraded homes before they have to sell.


Who are the hero's in today's action films? Jake 'brokeback' Gyllenhall? Shia Lebouf? Who were they back in the day? Schwarzenegger, Eastwood, McQueen.


Another one: Back in the day we had Jeopardy. 30 minutes of real smart people answering tough questions about the humanities, classics, science, etc. Subjects a well-educated person was expected to know. The smartest and quickest would win around $40,000 a show.

Before the 2008 crash there was 'The Weakest Link', where they dumbed down the questions and players got ahead by screwing each other over.

After 2008, 'Who wants to be a Millionaire" became the most popular game show. Pointless questions on useless trivia - pop music, reality stars and whatnot. But the grand prize is $1,000,000, for completely random, useless knowledge. What's the message - you can get ahead even without putting in real sweat.

So the question isn't 'what's up with American television'. It's 'what's up with American society'?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Same here,
But he does forget to mention Stallone and Van Damme and maybe Norris.

I think the only action hero of today is Jason Statham

[Kona]

(10-06-2012 07:00 PM)Sabra Wrote:  

Back in the day, there was 'This Old House'. No b.s.

This Old House is on every day?

I love Tom Silva.

Aloha!

[chochemonger1]

Two and a half men used to be good. Showed the contrast between an alpha (Charlie Sheen) and his omega brother. And on most levels it showed how American women actually choose who they bang. Though it seems no lessons were learnt by most American men watching the show.

[NYJ]

There has definitely been an increase in the amount of male bashing commercials over the years. Especially during of all things, The Super Bowl. While the masses are ok with that anything with a slight towards women is frowned upon. Only example off the top of my head for that is the Diet Dr Pepper 10 commercials proclaiming it was only for men.

[sucio44]

(10-06-2012 05:39 PM)houston Wrote:  

I only watch PBS and reruns of good shows. I even get annoyed when a good movie has to have a love story thrown in.

No more PBS if Romney becomes President. Sorry Big Bird.

[Basil Ransom]

Another thing, if you try and live with other people, especially strangers, and tell them you don't watch TV, and thus don't want to pay for it (i.e. support all the feminist bullshit on it), they will think you're a huge weirdo and super cheap.

[Stitch]

I do own a television, but no service--it exists purely for rented movies and the occasional game. However, I've just moved, my stuff hasn't gotten here, and occasionally I'm tired enough after work and hours of walking to explore that I try TV...

...with the same observations, over here in the UK; TV shows are about weak men and too-smart-for-them women, advertisements are about clueless men being shown up by their wives and/or children. I'm going to be very glad to have my computer and workshop back and lose access to this. Interesting reexposure to it, though.

Does have the perverse effect of making me really miss my LTR woman I just left, though--feminine, caring, and absolutely hated TV. Good woman, that.

[Timoteo]

(10-06-2012 10:03 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  

It's OK in moderation.

Network TV's The Mentalist is OK in moderation.

Otherwise, you're gonna be going to HBO/Showtime/History for the good stuff.

This is all I watch. I haven't followed a "network" series since "Homicide: Life on the Streets" was cancelled. I also like "The Unit" and "24" and picked them up on DVD. I watch cable series and sports, along with travel and nature shows. Otherwise, tv and commercials are a joke.

[porscheguy]

Need we go any farther than "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo?"

[Spike]

(10-06-2012 09:13 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  

Since I was a kid, I was always a fan of cop shows, but besides Southland there aren't any that I can watch anymore.

One of the biggest things that bugged when I was watching shows like Law & Order SVU or Criminal Minds was the ridiculousness of some of the situations with women detective or agents.

Some even made me laugh at the sillyness. Example: Mariska Hargitay's character on SVU. She's easily mid 40's, perhaps older. Yet in dress shoes she can rundown a sprinting male teenager. Come on, an athletic male cop would have trouble doing that. And certainly as a woman, she was never fast enough in her entire life to do this.

Or the revenge factor. Where a female FBI agent on CM would rush into the house -- of course after SWAT and other male agents cleared the area and rough up a male suspect and basically act like a tough guy badass.

Maybe that's why there is a trend in society I hear lately. Whenever a situation is described where some man supposedly wrongs a woman - all these women commentators are saying, "I would have kicked his ass" or "I hate men like that. I would have beat him senseless."

I always think: "Uh, no you wouldn't. The average man, no matter what you cupcakes see on TV, would get pummeled. And a tough, mean chick, is in no way a turn on. It's an embarassment."

Law and order SVU used to be one of my favorite shows but in the last seasons the stories are either very predictable or so unlikely it's laughable. I stopped watching.

[Basil Ransom]

(10-07-2012 01:02 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 09:13 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  

Since I was a kid, I was always a fan of cop shows, but besides Southland there aren't any that I can watch anymore.

One of the biggest things that bugged when I was watching shows like Law & Order SVU or Criminal Minds was the ridiculousness of some of the situations with women detective or agents.

Some even made me laugh at the sillyness. Example: Mariska Hargitay's character on SVU. She's easily mid 40's, perhaps older. Yet in dress shoes she can rundown a sprinting male teenager. Come on, an athletic male cop would have trouble doing that. And certainly as a woman, she was never fast enough in her entire life to do this.

Or the revenge factor. Where a female FBI agent on CM would rush into the house -- of course after SWAT and other male agents cleared the area and rough up a male suspect and basically act like a tough guy badass.

Maybe that's why there is a trend in society I hear lately. Whenever a situation is described where some man supposedly wrongs a woman - all these women commentators are saying, "I would have kicked his ass" or "I hate men like that. I would have beat him senseless."

I always think: "Uh, no you wouldn't. The average man, no matter what you cupcakes see on TV, would get pummeled. And a tough, mean chick, is in no way a turn on. It's an embarassment."

Law and order SVU used to be one of my favorite shows but in the last seasons the stories are either very predictable or so unlikely it's laughable. I stopped watching.

For you guys, you can't watch something if it isn't realistic. I'm the same way. I suspect that this trait is much more common among men who patronize these forums, and others like it.

I tell people I can't 'suspend disbelief,' that these shows are so unrealistic I can't enjoy them. They look at me funny - even if they agree with me, as to why the show is not realistic. They think "well, I don't see why that should *deter* you from watching the show." It's just unsettling, irritating even, for us to watch bullshit propaganda as HeyPete described, but most people don't seem to care.

[Big Nilla]

TCM is great... old movies and no commercials.

[Screwston]

(10-07-2012 10:17 AM)sucio44 Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 05:39 PM)houston Wrote:  

I only watch PBS and reruns of good shows. I even get annoyed when a good movie has to have a love story thrown in.

No more PBS if Romney becomes President. Sorry Big Bird.

Is that really true?? I heard about it.

[Blaster]

(10-07-2012 05:10 PM)houston Wrote:  

(10-07-2012 10:17 AM)sucio44 Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 05:39 PM)houston Wrote:  

I only watch PBS and reruns of good shows. I even get annoyed when a good movie has to have a love story thrown in.

No more PBS if Romney becomes President. Sorry Big Bird.

Is that really true?? I heard about it.

It came up during the presidential debate.

[Faust]

Every time I go to the gym they're always showing the same episode of the same show, and it's just horrible. It's some kind of real-estate thing where a gay man in his 30s tries to sell the wife of the guy who fronted the band Styx on tens of thousands of dollars in upgrades to her shoe closet. I couldn't parody that shit if I tried.

What really shocks me is that people will pay like 100$ a month for this stuff.