I know game denialism is a taboo topic here, but sometimes you have an experience that makes you really wonder.
Right now I'm hosting a dude from Germany on couchsurfing. He seemed cool, wanted to experience the L.A. scene from the perspective of a local. So I decided to host him for 2 days. Ethnically he's Persian, but he doesn't look middle eastern. Looks like a dark white guy, like an Italian or something. He just arrived earlier this evening so I took him down to Hollywood to bar hop and experience that scene.
I'm at a rocker bar called Angels and Kings on Hollywood Blvd. He buys me a beer and we chat about random shit for a few. I notice there is a chic sitting by herself on my right. Just drinking and glancing at her iPhone. She was cute though not hot, thin and Latina. I assumed she was just waiting for someone to arrive. When I had a break in the conversation with the German dude, I turned to her and opened. She seemed very receptive to conversation and I was rapping with her for about 15 minutes and it was going decent. At some point I asked her about her favorite drink and she named some German beer I'd never heard of. I then said, my buddy is here from Germany maybe he knows it. Plus I didn't want to be rude and completely leave him aside. As soon as I said that her eyes lit up. I then found that her ex-husband was German, she even speaks some German and once she did that, I was basically done. I could not re-engage her. She only wanted to talk to him. I tried everything to get her attention back, teasing, negging, push-pull, kino, it was falling flat.
Now this German-Persian guy, here are his stats, about the same height as me around 5'9"ish with shoes. Looks wise I don't think he's a good looking guy but not ugly either. He certainly is not objectively better looking than me. He wasn't dressed stylishly. His body posture was slouching, seemed quite shy and like most guys from Germany, had absolutely ZERO game to speak of and talked in that sort of robotic German voice they often have. I'd even say his game was negative, it was that bad. But the chic was unperturbed. In the next hour she was kino-ing him hard, had her arm constantly around him, unzipped the top of his jacket and started touching his chest, took his cap off so she could get closer to his face. She was screaming "make out with me" with all her body language and the dude wouldn't even touch her back. At this point I was just the third wheel kicking back watching this while sipping my beer. There were no other targets to talk to for me. It was becoming fascinating, it broke all the rules I learned about game. Even though this girl was throwing herself at him in every way imaginable, he just stood there looking uncomfortable, not giving any kino back, not engaging her in interesting conversation, looking shy and slouching. I was seriously wondering if I'd just hosted my first gay man. When she got up to go the bathroom he was asking me if women in America are usually like that, show up to bars and flirt with guys they don't know. It's like his mind was blown and this was something he'd never seen in his life before. I told him he can easily go home with her tonight if he wants. That would make a hell of a way to end your first night in L.A.
She then took out her phone and asked for his number, even though she knows he's only in town for several days. She clearly wants to fuck his brains out. Since his phone is a German number, they were fumbling around for about 15 minutes trying to figure out how to text each other. I'm thinking, WTF, most girls would never have that much patience when exchanging numbers, especially for a guy with bad game. And she wasn't an ugly or fat chic either.
Now I know you guys may be thinking I'm hating. I'm not. I actually encouraged him to hook up with her since she's giving him all the attention. Yeah, I was a little ticked that I opened her, warmed her up and he ended up walking away with free pussy while doing zero work other than just being German. It was all kind of eye-opening thing for me. If a chic likes your look, ancestry or whatever, you don't need any game. In some cases you can even have negative game and still have pussy thrown at you if you just fit her slot of what she already decided she likes. I witnessed right in front of my eyes what white guys must experience when they go to Peru or the Philippines. While I'm certainly not the best mack on this forum, my game was light years ahead of him. I was dressed stylish, was having playful and interesting conversation, using kino, and in the end she choose a stiff German guy who basically acted like he'd never touched a woman in his life. I must admit, it does feel like a slap in the face. I know game can help, but tonight demonstrated more than anything, finding your niche is more important than game. Another thing that blew my mind is that I'm not used to seeing guys get thrown freebies like this. For me and at least some of the guys I'm close to, we have to fucking work to get results. We cannot make major mistakes. We have to be on point. It then made me really wonder how often this sort of thing goes on. How often are dudes getting pussy thrown at them that they don't even have to work for.
Right now I'm hosting a dude from Germany on couchsurfing. He seemed cool, wanted to experience the L.A. scene from the perspective of a local. So I decided to host him for 2 days. Ethnically he's Persian, but he doesn't look middle eastern. Looks like a dark white guy, like an Italian or something. He just arrived earlier this evening so I took him down to Hollywood to bar hop and experience that scene.
I'm at a rocker bar called Angels and Kings on Hollywood Blvd. He buys me a beer and we chat about random shit for a few. I notice there is a chic sitting by herself on my right. Just drinking and glancing at her iPhone. She was cute though not hot, thin and Latina. I assumed she was just waiting for someone to arrive. When I had a break in the conversation with the German dude, I turned to her and opened. She seemed very receptive to conversation and I was rapping with her for about 15 minutes and it was going decent. At some point I asked her about her favorite drink and she named some German beer I'd never heard of. I then said, my buddy is here from Germany maybe he knows it. Plus I didn't want to be rude and completely leave him aside. As soon as I said that her eyes lit up. I then found that her ex-husband was German, she even speaks some German and once she did that, I was basically done. I could not re-engage her. She only wanted to talk to him. I tried everything to get her attention back, teasing, negging, push-pull, kino, it was falling flat.
Now this German-Persian guy, here are his stats, about the same height as me around 5'9"ish with shoes. Looks wise I don't think he's a good looking guy but not ugly either. He certainly is not objectively better looking than me. He wasn't dressed stylishly. His body posture was slouching, seemed quite shy and like most guys from Germany, had absolutely ZERO game to speak of and talked in that sort of robotic German voice they often have. I'd even say his game was negative, it was that bad. But the chic was unperturbed. In the next hour she was kino-ing him hard, had her arm constantly around him, unzipped the top of his jacket and started touching his chest, took his cap off so she could get closer to his face. She was screaming "make out with me" with all her body language and the dude wouldn't even touch her back. At this point I was just the third wheel kicking back watching this while sipping my beer. There were no other targets to talk to for me. It was becoming fascinating, it broke all the rules I learned about game. Even though this girl was throwing herself at him in every way imaginable, he just stood there looking uncomfortable, not giving any kino back, not engaging her in interesting conversation, looking shy and slouching. I was seriously wondering if I'd just hosted my first gay man. When she got up to go the bathroom he was asking me if women in America are usually like that, show up to bars and flirt with guys they don't know. It's like his mind was blown and this was something he'd never seen in his life before. I told him he can easily go home with her tonight if he wants. That would make a hell of a way to end your first night in L.A.
She then took out her phone and asked for his number, even though she knows he's only in town for several days. She clearly wants to fuck his brains out. Since his phone is a German number, they were fumbling around for about 15 minutes trying to figure out how to text each other. I'm thinking, WTF, most girls would never have that much patience when exchanging numbers, especially for a guy with bad game. And she wasn't an ugly or fat chic either.
Now I know you guys may be thinking I'm hating. I'm not. I actually encouraged him to hook up with her since she's giving him all the attention. Yeah, I was a little ticked that I opened her, warmed her up and he ended up walking away with free pussy while doing zero work other than just being German. It was all kind of eye-opening thing for me. If a chic likes your look, ancestry or whatever, you don't need any game. In some cases you can even have negative game and still have pussy thrown at you if you just fit her slot of what she already decided she likes. I witnessed right in front of my eyes what white guys must experience when they go to Peru or the Philippines. While I'm certainly not the best mack on this forum, my game was light years ahead of him. I was dressed stylish, was having playful and interesting conversation, using kino, and in the end she choose a stiff German guy who basically acted like he'd never touched a woman in his life. I must admit, it does feel like a slap in the face. I know game can help, but tonight demonstrated more than anything, finding your niche is more important than game. Another thing that blew my mind is that I'm not used to seeing guys get thrown freebies like this. For me and at least some of the guys I'm close to, we have to fucking work to get results. We cannot make major mistakes. We have to be on point. It then made me really wonder how often this sort of thing goes on. How often are dudes getting pussy thrown at them that they don't even have to work for.
