[bacon]

anyone watching yesterdays monday night game saw the unsightly pink on players uniforms. this is yet another way women are penetrating anything male wih their own agenda. in this case breast cancer which while tragic for women is largely a female cancer. why doesnt the nfl put any awareness to its largely male audience about prostate cancer (a cancer mostly common in men)?

Asking male athletes to wear pink is emasculating. as a fan i find it insulting to watch these guys in pink.

maybe next thing the nfl will do is have the players wear rainbow colors to show their aids awareness sensitivity

[presidentcarter]

I JUST had this conversation with my roommate last night, and I thought of it mainly because I've been reading this forum for a few months - he thought nothing of it. I argued that they should make it something that affects males...we looked up the mortality rates and sure enough breast cancer was #1, if you don't combine colon with rectal, otherwise that takes the top spot. Then I said that they should just make it cancer awareness month and not a specific type that mostly affects only females. Discussion kind of died as I obviously had a stronger opinion about the whole thing. What about the players that have had a family member die of another form of cancer...how do they feel? How do I feel as a fan that's lost an immediate family member to other forms of cancer?

[Timoteo]

The league has been doing this for a few years, every October, for the whole month where everyone, including coaches, wears something with pink in it. Some even have something pink painted on the field. They do this to get more viewers - namely women. It's purely marketing, and sucking up to the "casual" fan. They don't do this for predominantly male cancers because they already have the male audience. Just this week we learned that Chuck Pagano, the rookie head coach of the Colts, was diagnosed with a highly treatable form of Leukemia. I think last season, Mike Heimerdinger, an offensive coordinator, died of a rare form of lymphatic cancer.

College basketball does a great job of raising money for cancer, and even have an early season tournament. Jim Valvano, who coached North Carolina State to the title in '83, gave a now legendary speech at the ESPY awards in '93 when he was in his final weeks. He and ESPN formed Coaches vs. Cancer, a foundation to raise money for cancer research, and to this day they hold a tournament for the V Foundation. The NFL should do that every October - publicly remember members of the fraternity that were lost to the disease. It's nice to do something for the ladies (I'm sure there are players and coaches who've lost female relatives to the disease), but they need to remember men that were lost also.

[Roosh]

Did they find a cure for prostate cancer?

[WanderingSoul]

(10-02-2012 08:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Did they find a cure for prostate cancer?

Yeah, death.

[Single Dad Swag]

Alright, now you're being a little TOO sensitive and acting feminine, yourself.

I coach my sons little league football team (6-8 year olds) and even WE'RE rocking pink shoe laces and pink socks for all the boys AND the coaches in the month of October.

This isn't a feminist issue, its a HUMAN ISSUE. I have absolutely no objections to this show of support and feel like people that do take issue are grasping at straws for attention. Try harder.

[Timoteo]

(10-02-2012 08:39 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 08:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Did they find a cure for prostate cancer?

Yeah, death.

My understanding is that if discovered early, prostate cancer is treatable with a very high survival rate. Like any cancer, if you don't get it early and it starts to spread, the treatments themselves might kill you before the cancer does. Testicular is one of those that seems to spread quickly if not caught early. Lance Armstrong had it in an advanced stage, where it spread to his lungs and I think his brain, but somehow he survived the treatments. For some reason, it always moves to the lungs. John Kruk, a former baseball player had it, and Nene Hilario, who still plays in the NBA had it also.

[bacon]

singledadswag you let your son wear pink? what kind of father does that? you think you have to emasculate yourself to support a cause? go ahead but i just hope you spare your children the shame of having to wear pink.

[Timoteo]

One of my high school squeezes is undergoing chemo right now for breast cancer. She had a double mastectomy scheduled, but the last scan she got came up clean. She went ahead with it anyway. She had her son shave her head (to avoid the trauma of watching it fall out), and she's doing battle.

[Hotwheels]

/offtopic

I was once surprised by a broad that had had a single mastectomy.

When I was about to rip her bra off.

/ontopic

[Basil Ransom]

Ever notice how the least feminine, most bitchy, high maintenance chicks *love* that shade of pink? I'm talking about fuchsia, or hot pink. It's fucking trashy, and it's always girls who haven't a shred of femininity. So they have to remind you that they are in fact, a girl. Thus all those hot pink blackberry covers, sweatpants, bicycles, purses, accessories, ad infinitum. It's an aggressive reminder of 'grrrrl power!' Light pink, by comparison, is a subtle, feminine, non-aggressive shade.

There's a whole god damn brand devoted to it:



Any time I see girls wearing that shit, the "worthless whore!" alarm sounds.

[Single Dad Swag]

(10-02-2012 08:52 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

One of my high school squeezes is undergoing chemo right now for breast cancer. She had a double mastectomy scheduled, but the last scan she got came up clean. She went ahead with it anyway. She had her son shave her head (to avoid the trauma of watching it fall out), and she's doing battle.

My aunt who pretty much raised me died of breast cancer about a year ago. She also underwent the whole double mastectomy deal. Cancer, in general, is such an indiscriminate disease... really sucks. Maybe I'm biased.

I feel like you touched on this perfectly in your first response. The NFL is definitely using this as a marketing ploy to the female audience, but it doesn't make it any less of a good and useful cause.

"bacon", again, try harder... are you 12?

[bacon]

singledadswag you seem like a real sensitive guy so keep wearing pink if you think that will help breast cancer. BUT i dont think i am alone in wanting to watch the nfl without the parade of pink being thrown in my face.

btw if your soo concerned about women
10times as many women die from heart disease
2 times as many women die from lung cancer

source this penn and teller video exposing the pink for the cause bullshit

[kdolo]

I addressed this issue on a prior post about the death of the NFL.




Having big burly aggressive and largely Negro men wear pink is a psyop. This is planned at the highest level to introduce and contribute to gender confusion.

1. Pink is a colors for females. This cannot be disputed

2. Breast cancer is a disease that affects females: none of whom play in the NFL and this is not marketing either because sports fans in general are overwhelmingly male.

- When will the WNBA start wearing Blue to support Prostate Cancer Awareness ??

this is all about introducing gender confusion (see the father above who "sees nothing wrong with letting young boys wear girl colors)
....in the vein of 'it doesnt matter - pink or blue - it doesnt matter boy or girl.male or female .....)

all about denigrating the male and exalting the female .....

-the controllers must keep real men down and confused while exalting women - since confused men and exalted women are easier to control ........

there is nothing casual about this - I wish a player would refuse to do it........then again NFL players are not known for their intelligence and ability to think through these kinds of issues.....

[Excelsior]

We're overanalyzing this, guys. This focus specifically on breast cancer to the exclusion of all other diseases is designed to draw in females and expand the NFL's brand beyond the already locked-down male gender.

Just the follow the money, fellas. That's what it is always about.

[Timoteo]

(10-02-2012 09:32 PM)kdolo Wrote:  

I addressed this issue on a prior post about the death of the NFL.




Having big burly aggressive and largely Negro men wear pink is a psyop. This is planned at the highest level to introduce and contribute to gender confusion.

1. Pink is a colors for females. This cannot be disputed

2. Breast cancer is a disease that affects females: none of whom play in the NFL and this is not marketing either because sports fans in general are overwhelmingly male.

- When will the WNBA start wearing Blue to support Prostate Cancer Awareness ??

this is all about introducing gender confusion (see the father above who "sees nothing wrong with letting young boys wear girl colors)
....in the vein of 'it doesnt matter - pink or blue - it doesnt matter boy or girl.male or female .....)

all about denigrating the male and exalting the female .....

-the controllers must keep real men down and confused while exalting women - since confused men and exalted women are easier to control ........

there is nothing casual about this - I wish a player would refuse to do it........then again NFL players are not known for their intelligence and ability to think through these kinds of issues.....

This is a bit much. You have some grains of truth in there, but the NFL isn't trying to promote gender confusion by having guys wear pink shoes or gloves for one month, or trying to emasculate players. The NFL markets actively to women. If you see the NFL apparel catalog, they have a huge section of women's items, including jerseys that are cut for women, and items in PINK. Alyssa Milano actually got a license from the NFL to sell women's NFL apparel (she's a renouned dater of athletes). She has her own boutique in Citi Field where the Mets play. Jerry Jones opened a Victoria's Secret in Cowboys Stadium. Sports in general actively markets to women, maybe more than the WNBA does (they market to families, trying to get moms and dads to bring little girls to the games). Sports in general are trying to market to the casual fan, which is why new stadiums have restaurants, bars, lounges, clothing boutiques, swimming pools with slides, etc. Entertainment OTHER than the game being played. It's all about the mighty dollar. Personally, I don't wear pink. I know some men wear light pink dress shirts, and maybe ties too. I can't bring myself to do it, but I don't make broad generalizations about men that do.

[Basil Ransom]

(10-02-2012 09:59 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:32 PM)kdolo Wrote:  

I addressed this issue on a prior post about the death of the NFL.




Having big burly aggressive and largely Negro men wear pink is a psyop. This is planned at the highest level to introduce and contribute to gender confusion.

1. Pink is a colors for females. This cannot be disputed

2. Breast cancer is a disease that affects females: none of whom play in the NFL and this is not marketing either because sports fans in general are overwhelmingly male.

- When will the WNBA start wearing Blue to support Prostate Cancer Awareness ??

this is all about introducing gender confusion (see the father above who "sees nothing wrong with letting young boys wear girl colors)
....in the vein of 'it doesnt matter - pink or blue - it doesnt matter boy or girl.male or female .....)

all about denigrating the male and exalting the female .....

-the controllers must keep real men down and confused while exalting women - since confused men and exalted women are easier to control ........

there is nothing casual about this - I wish a player would refuse to do it........then again NFL players are not known for their intelligence and ability to think through these kinds of issues.....

This is a bit much. You have some grains of truth in there, but the NFL isn't trying to promote gender confusion by having guys wear pink shoes or gloves for one month, or trying to emasculate players. The NFL markets actively to women. If you see the NFL apparel catalog, they have a huge section of women's items, including jerseys that are cut for women, and items in PINK. Alyssa Milano actually got a license from the NFL to sell women's NFL apparel (she's a renouned dater of athletes). She has her own boutique in Citi Field where the Mets play. Jerry Jones opened a Victoria's Secret in Cowboys Stadium. Sports in general actively markets to women, maybe more than the WNBA does (they market to families, trying to get moms and dads to bring little girls to the games). Sports in general are trying to market to the casual fan, which is why new stadiums have restaurants, bars, lounges, clothing boutiques, swimming pools with slides, etc. Entertainment OTHER than the game being played. It's all about the mighty dollar. Personally, I don't wear pink. I know some men wear light pink dress shirts, and maybe ties too. I can't bring myself to do it, but I don't make broad generalizations about men that do.

None of us really know what's going on in the heads of the NFL. But plenty of lame men, women and homosexuals love to see men denigrate themselves like this. They start fawning and saying things like, "aww, isn't that cuuuute." They eat up shit like this:



Yeah, it is this weird power trip. "He thinks he's so manly and strong? I bet he'd be cute in a dress..." It's not exactly unprecedented I guess - I'm sure history is full of examples of people 'dressing down' the local royalty. That's what modern comedy roasts are about. But when it was, say, a court jester lightly teasing the king, everyone knew the score, that the king was fundamentally in control.

With moves like this 'breast cancer awareness,' it's like, "hey, let's appeal to women by groveling to them and abasing ourselves, doing things we'd never otherwise do." If you do that consistently in real life, you'll just end up the fool.

[Tuthmosis]

The only pink I wear wraps around my dick and gets busted inside of.

[Basil Ransom]

(10-02-2012 10:09 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

The only pink I wear wraps around my dick and gets busted inside of.

[Duke Castile]

(10-02-2012 09:28 PM)bacon Wrote:  

singledadswag you seem like a real sensitive guy so keep wearing pink if you think that will help breast cancer. BUT i dont think i am alone in wanting to watch the nfl without the parade of pink being thrown in my face.

btw if your soo concerned about women
10times as many women die from heart disease
2 times as many women die from lung cancer

source this penn and teller video exposing the pink for the cause bullshit

I can't titty fuck a heart or a pair of lungs.

You're over the top with this stuff Bacon.

Who gives a shit?

I'll never understand this "we won!" or "Life sucks we lost!" stuff when it comes to pro team sports. Those guys don't give a rat's ass about you.

[Timoteo]

(10-02-2012 10:05 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:59 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:32 PM)kdolo Wrote:  

I addressed this issue on a prior post about the death of the NFL.




Having big burly aggressive and largely Negro men wear pink is a psyop. This is planned at the highest level to introduce and contribute to gender confusion.

1. Pink is a colors for females. This cannot be disputed

2. Breast cancer is a disease that affects females: none of whom play in the NFL and this is not marketing either because sports fans in general are overwhelmingly male.

- When will the WNBA start wearing Blue to support Prostate Cancer Awareness ??

this is all about introducing gender confusion (see the father above who "sees nothing wrong with letting young boys wear girl colors)
....in the vein of 'it doesnt matter - pink or blue - it doesnt matter boy or girl.male or female .....)

all about denigrating the male and exalting the female .....

-the controllers must keep real men down and confused while exalting women - since confused men and exalted women are easier to control ........

there is nothing casual about this - I wish a player would refuse to do it........then again NFL players are not known for their intelligence and ability to think through these kinds of issues.....

This is a bit much. You have some grains of truth in there, but the NFL isn't trying to promote gender confusion by having guys wear pink shoes or gloves for one month, or trying to emasculate players. The NFL markets actively to women. If you see the NFL apparel catalog, they have a huge section of women's items, including jerseys that are cut for women, and items in PINK. Alyssa Milano actually got a license from the NFL to sell women's NFL apparel (she's a renouned dater of athletes). She has her own boutique in Citi Field where the Mets play. Jerry Jones opened a Victoria's Secret in Cowboys Stadium. Sports in general actively markets to women, maybe more than the WNBA does (they market to families, trying to get moms and dads to bring little girls to the games). Sports in general are trying to market to the casual fan, which is why new stadiums have restaurants, bars, lounges, clothing boutiques, swimming pools with slides, etc. Entertainment OTHER than the game being played. It's all about the mighty dollar. Personally, I don't wear pink. I know some men wear light pink dress shirts, and maybe ties too. I can't bring myself to do it, but I don't make broad generalizations about men that do.

None of us really know what's going on in the heads of the NFL. But plenty of lame men, women and homosexuals love to see men denigrate themselves like this. They start fawning and saying things like, "aww, isn't that cuuuute." They eat up shit like this:



Yeah, it is this weird power trip. "He thinks he's so manly and strong? I bet he'd be cute in a dress..." It's not exactly unprecedented I guess - I'm sure history is full of examples of people 'dressing down' the local royalty. That's what modern comedy roasts are about. But when it was, say, a court jester lightly teasing the king, everyone knew the score, that the king was fundamentally in control.

With moves like this 'breast cancer awareness,' it's like, "hey, let's appeal to women by groveling to them and abasing ourselves, doing things we'd never otherwise do." If you do that consistently in real life, you'll just end up the fool.

Yeah...we DO know what's in the mind of the NFL:

http://www.nflshop.com/category/index.js...Id=3821290

[kosko]

(10-02-2012 09:47 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

We're overanalyzing this, guys. This focus specifically on breast cancer to the exclusion of all other diseases is designed to draw in females and expand the NFL's brand beyond the already locked-down male gender.

Just the follow the money, fellas. That's what it is always about.

Its pretty much this. I do agree that it is part of a broader agenda but, not as far as some people are trying to reach at. the NFL is a smug league that is all about nickel and dimes and nothing more. Women love doing walks and drives for the Pink ribbons and this is just a money ploy for the NFL.

The Cancer complex in general bugs me. Insert any _____ Cancer and its campaigns and follow its administration and fluff and its all just money and power. Little do much to go after the cause of cancer all we do is chance cures which keeps campaigns like the Pink Ribbon going strong.

The video posted above hits it home for all Cancer campaigns and this is why a cure will never be found as too many people are fed off the "cure" and "awareness" complex. Nobody gets ahead aside from the victims when we go after a cure.

The Cancer Industry is a big Hamster Wheel. Take Movemember and the efforts to bring "awareness" to men and Prostate Cancer. Me and a few of my friends have stomach the notion of a doctor sticking their hands up my butt and have inquired about getting screenings. To bad, unless you have a family history of that type Cancer you can;t get a screening (at least here in Canada) unless you are over 35. Great. Even though Prostate Cancer has been known to show up in Young to Middle Aged Adults. Great.

Back to the NFL. I have said that the NFL is the most Beta league on earth. I love my football but this NFL players barley have it better then then the plantation workers. Every facet of their lives is controlled by there "owners" and though they do get compensated for their efforts their owners are making 30-50X the money they are for doing absolutely nothing.

[Timoteo]

(10-02-2012 10:27 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 09:47 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

We're overanalyzing this, guys. This focus specifically on breast cancer to the exclusion of all other diseases is designed to draw in females and expand the NFL's brand beyond the already locked-down male gender.

Just the follow the money, fellas. That's what it is always about.

Its pretty much this. I do agree that it is part of a broader agenda but, not as far as some people are trying to reach at. the NFL is a smug league that is all about nickel and dimes and nothing more. Women love doing walks and drives for the Pink ribbons and this is just a money ploy for the NFL.

The Cancer complex in general bugs me. Insert any _____ Cancer and its campaigns and follow its administration and fluff and its all just money and power. Little do much to go after the cause of cancer all we do is chance cures which keeps campaigns like the Pink Ribbon going strong.

The video posted above hits it home for all Cancer campaigns and this is why a cure will never be found as too many people are fed off the "cure" and "awareness" complex. Nobody gets ahead aside from the victims when we go after a cure.

The Cancer Industry is a big Hamster Wheel. Take Movemember and the efforts to bring "awareness" to men and Prostate Cancer. Me and a few of my friends have stomach the notion of a doctor sticking their hands up my butt and have inquired about getting screenings. To bad, unless you have a family history of that type Cancer you can;t get a screening (at least here in Canada) unless you are over 35. Great. Even though Prostate Cancer has been known to show up in Young to Middle Aged Adults. Great.

Back to the NFL. I have said that the NFL is the most Beta league on earth. I love my football but this NFL players barley have it better then then the plantation workers. Every facet of their lives is controlled by there "owners" and though they do get compensated for their efforts their owners are making 30-50X the money they are for doing absolutely nothing.

The just-ended referees lockout was all about Goodell gaining even more power over participants on the field. He wanted to prove to them that they weren't important to the game, and that if they didn't take the deal offered, the league could successfully move on without them. He preaches player safety, but was willing to turn games over to Indoor Football League and Division III college refs, and also makes teams play Thursday games so the house NFL Network can sell more ad time. The game is grueling, and players need that full week to recover. If a player gets injured, he may not have enough time to play on the short week, and his team is without him. All of this is about making the owners wealthier. All league commissioners reach a point where they get too arrogant, and something happens to slap them back in line. The ref fiasco, and having games actually decided and influenced by incompetent officials was Goodell's slap. They always talk about the fans this, and the fans that, but the bottom line is he KNOWS the fans are going to come to the games, buy jerseys and hats, and tune in at home no matter what. When he saw the product on the field slipping badly, and fans and media clowning him on social media and on the air, he got in a room and made some compromises.

[WanderingSoul]

(10-02-2012 08:47 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

My understanding is that if discovered early, prostate cancer is treatable with a very high survival rate. Like any cancer, if you don't get it early and it starts to spread, the treatments themselves might kill you before the cancer does. Testicular is one of those that seems to spread quickly if not caught early. Lance Armstrong had it in an advanced stage, where it spread to his lungs and I think his brain, but somehow he survived the treatments. For some reason, it always moves to the lungs. John Kruk, a former baseball player had it, and Nene Hilario, who still plays in the NBA had it also.

I think you're right. I was being a smartass. My grandpa actually had prostate cancer and beat it.

[Veloce]

I don't watch football. I don't watch sports. I don't own a T.V. When the World Cup is going on I watch it out in restaurants. (Watch spain play in a Tapas bar, watch Brasil play in a churrascaria, etc.)

But I'm with the OP on this. Men used to have activities that were their own and somewhat sacred, free from corporate sponsorship, submitting to various causes (noble as they may be), and free from female influence.

My mom died from cancer. I'm ALL about pumping as much money and awareness into cancer as possible. There are more than enough avenues to do this without getting into men's sports.

Maybe I'm just romanticizing the past, but I'd be much more inclined to watch sports and keep up with them if it was like "the old days" before televised sports blew up so much and it all became about money. The "woman's touch" on sports is simply a byproduct of the commercialization of sports.

I'm just all about keeping guys activities our own. Whether it's enjoying a good cognac, cigar, playing cards, that kind of shit. Keep women out of our business and in the kitchen.