[Oilrig]

Thelastlion yes plaza las americas and the beaches are still the best places to day game. There's a fancy new mall in San Juan that would also be a good spot. Isla verde beach is my favorite since you'll see a good mix of locals and hot American tourists. On your average weekend you'll see hundreds and hundreds of hot girls sun tanning, playing volleyball etc. tremendous eye candy everywhere. Ocean park is another beach but more concentrated with locals. Worth checking out as well. Old San Juan is also a good area for day game, usually a good mix of hot locals and tourists walking around.

Hands down if you want to see the hottest Rican girls these are the best spots: isla verde beach, ocean park, Club Brava in the hotel San Juan, and La placita area. La Placita area is like a 3 block radius of bars and food vendors where you'll see thousands of people just walking around, drinking dancing at night. It's a good mix of locals and tourists and I've seen some of the most drop dead gorgeous white rican girls there. Same with club brava, only the rich Rican's can afford to go there so you'll see the hottest white rican girls as well as American girls there on vacation or bachelorette parties etc.

I've always said girls from PR are either extremely beautiful, like hottest girl you'll ever see in your life. Or they're extremely ugly, on the darker side and fat. There's the tan girls who are called trigueñas and they can be pretty cute and more approachable, easier to game, and more open to talking to non Rican guys. But hands down the hottest Rican girls are the white Rican's who have colored eyes, light skin, but also have the bodies of other ricangirls big tits and ass, thick legs. Lawd now I need to plan another trip there!

[scrambled]

Trigueña?

[BrewDog]

(03-21-2017 05:41 AM)Oilrig Wrote:  

The issue is the hottest of the hottest Rican girls are the white PR girls who come from money. Typically they will go after other White Rican guys with money and do not like guys from the states. They can also be very stuck up and bitchy. But these will be some of the hottest girls you'll ever see in your life, girls who win Miss Universe and shit lol.

I experienced this. I stayed in the San Juan Embassy Suites for one night on business. There was a wedding reception and the hottest girls I've ever seen in my life were there. It was a bunch of white PR girls, and they were all with these old rich dudes. I assume the dudes were rich because I can't figure out why these awesome 20 y/o girls would be their dates otherwise.

But you're right about the Miss Universe thing. These girls were so smoking hot.

[djk100]

(03-21-2017 12:53 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 05:41 AM)Oilrig Wrote:  

The issue is the hottest of the hottest Rican girls are the white PR girls who come from money. Typically they will go after other White Rican guys with money and do not like guys from the states. They can also be very stuck up and bitchy. But these will be some of the hottest girls you'll ever see in your life, girls who win Miss Universe and shit lol.

I experienced this. I stayed in the San Juan Embassy Suites for one night on business. There was a wedding reception and the hottest girls I've ever seen in my life were there. It was a bunch of white PR girls, and they were all with these old rich dudes. I assume the dudes were rich because I can't figure out why these awesome 20 y/o girls would be their dates otherwise.

But you're right about the Miss Universe thing. These girls were so smoking hot.

Money talks big time in Puerto Rico. Saw in Isla Verde with a smoking hot brunette with an older dude with a slight beer belly.

[Off The Reservation]

(03-21-2017 01:35 PM)djk100 Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 12:53 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(03-21-2017 05:41 AM)Oilrig Wrote:  

The issue is the hottest of the hottest Rican girls are the white PR girls who come from money. Typically they will go after other White Rican guys with money and do not like guys from the states. They can also be very stuck up and bitchy. But these will be some of the hottest girls you'll ever see in your life, girls who win Miss Universe and shit lol.

I experienced this. I stayed in the San Juan Embassy Suites for one night on business. There was a wedding reception and the hottest girls I've ever seen in my life were there. It was a bunch of white PR girls, and they were all with these old rich dudes. I assume the dudes were rich because I can't figure out why these awesome 20 y/o girls would be their dates otherwise.

But you're right about the Miss Universe thing. These girls were so smoking hot.

Money talks big time in Puerto Rico. Saw in Isla Verde with a smoking hot brunette with an older dude with a slight beer belly.

That was me.

[thelastlion]

Thanks Oilrig. I really appreciate the information.

I'm going to fly to PR next weekend and check out the day game and night life. I'll let you guys know if I have anything to add.

As you mentioned, the tax breaks and low cost of living are very attractive and would allow me to travel outside PR (e.g. Eastern Europe, South America) for much of the year.

[Off The Reservation]

^the tax breaks are extremely complicated and do NOT allow you to be outside most of the year. You need guidance on that subject.

I know well I am an participant in Act __.

It doesnt make mathmatical sense if you make less than 500k per year.

Have a nice trip.

[thelastlion]

Thanks OTR. Perhaps an example might illustrate.

In 2018, if I spend 93 days in PR, 92 in Prague, 91 in Bogota and 89 in Los Angeles, then PR can be my tax residence if my business, mortgage, voter registration, bank account, etc. are in PR (i.e. if I have a closer connection to PR than any other country). Under Act 22, I would then avoid all federal and state capital gains taxes.

If I spent more days in the Czech Republic or any country other than PR, then PR probably can't be my tax residence.

If you have an attorney or accountant that disagrees with those statements, please send me their contact information since I would be interested in speaking with them. Perhaps they will appreciate the referral.

FYI here is a summary of the rules: https://www.mayerbrown.com/files/Publica...ntives.pdf

I apologize for the lengthy post, but I thought others might be interested in ways to dramatically reduce taxes while traveling abroad.

[Off The Reservation]

(03-22-2017 11:28 PM)thelastlion Wrote:  

Thanks OTR. Perhaps an example might illustrate.

In 2018, if I spend 93 days in PR, 92 in Prague, 91 in Bogota and 89 in Los Angeles, then PR can be my tax residence if my business, mortgage, voter registration, bank account, etc. are in PR (i.e. if I have a closer connection to PR than any other country). Under Act 22, I would then avoid all federal and state capital gains taxes.

If I spent more days in the Czech Republic or any country other than PR, then PR probably can't be my tax residence.

If you have an attorney or accountant that disagrees with those statements, please send me their contact information since I would be interested in speaking with them. Perhaps they will appreciate the referral.

FYI here is a summary of the rules: https://www.mayerbrown.com/files/Publica...ntives.pdf

I apologize for the lengthy post, but I thought others might be interested in ways to dramatically reduce taxes while traveling abroad.

You are simply misleading others because you do not know what you are talking about. Stop spreading misinformation that you glanced over on some pdf or internet site.

You fail to understand even the link you posted, because you want it to be what you want it to be. 93 days in PR does not qualify you for residence for PR or for PR nor for the purpose of the IRS (Yes you have to meet both and they have different requirements. Also the Act grant has additional residence requirements that are apart from the 183 days physically present.) The pdf you posted is not even a half of a percent of the complexity of using these benefits. Your scenario would not make you a PR bona fide resident. It would however make you a bona fide idiot.

You are also wrong about Federal taxes. Not so simple. Act 22 has nothing to do with US Federal taxes, it has to do with a time limited grant from PR capital gains and some other minor tax benefits within PR. You still have to pay PR income taxes which are as high as US taxes on regular income. Whether or not you have IRS taxable income is not dependent on having a grant from PR. Entirely separate matter depending on the source of income.

Don't be a piker making up what you want the benefits to be without doing massive research. Oh, and I am not going to give you a referral. No one wants to talk to you for a few thousand and tell you what you want to hear. Do your own homework, and please keep your bullshit comments and scenarios to yourself until you are truly knowledgeable about what you are talking about.

It's not like you are recommending some hostel because the girls were cute. You are talking about a real man's game of which you have zero right to comment.

I love when people share knowledge and or some insight they have gained. Usually this comes through hard work and the person sharing is doing so through a sense of wanting to participate. But you are just a true NOOB trying to show off. You have no idea who is on this forum, and have less idea what you are talking about when it comes to PR tax grants. Your made up information could actually hurt someone financially if they were stupid enough to believe it. I hope you have a nice trip but, Cayate.

[thelastlion]

OK fair enough. My scenario would make me a bona fide PR resident under IRS regulations but not under PR regulations. Thanks for clarifying. Good thing I can still cancel that flight.

[realologist]

I was in Puerto Rico in 2014.

I stayed in a little Puerto Rican owned hotel in the Condado district.

Anything worth while in San Juan for game is going to be by the ocean or Plazas De America's Mall. The districts on the ocean from East to West.

Isla Verde: Solid beaches, clubs, bars and restaurants
Ocean Park: See above
Condado: Bars, restaurants, casino, beach
La Placita(Just south of Condado): Bars, food
Old San Juan: Opens late, closes early, day game only. Some bars open late on certain nights for dancing. Ask around which ones. The forts are pretty cool. Pretty sure $5 gets you in both.

Can't remember the names of any bars or clubs

Plazas De America's was the biggest mall in the Caribbean when I went. Solid sized. Had 3 floors.

Outside of game I recommend seeing the rainforest and swimming in water falls. Snorkeling east of the island. Didn't get a chance to check out of the Caves but heard they were nice too.

[TheMoscower]

Guys, is there any place where surfing can be combined with gaming chicks in Puerto Rico? I have heard surfing is good on west part of the island, near Rincon, and also there is something near the capital.

[Coveyleader]

Rincon blows for chicks, it's full of washed up gringas.

A little ways from there is a place called Aguadilla, cool beaches, good surfing, and chicks there don't see gringos so much. I hiked up into a few playas, met chicks on the way, was a great time.

San Juan, chicks are brutal. Doable, but it's not my flavor.

[thelastlion]

Thanks for all the recommendations. After consulting with some more tax attorneys, I will be flying to PR on Wednesday, April 19, to check it out for a week. I'm sure I'll hit up the places that have been recommended the most on this forum (e.g. Club Brava and La Placita). Let me know if anyone is interested in meeting up for a quick coffee or drink - it would be great to get some more locals' opinions. Some background about me is below.

I'm 35 and based in Santa Monica, CA. I manage a small financial firm, which I can run from anywhere. Thus, I'm considering relocating to SJ and making it my tax residence, so I can avoid paying US/PR capital gains taxes while I spend most of the year in California, Europe, South America, etc. But I would probably still spend at least 3 months in PR each year. I'm primarily a day gamer, but also enjoy night game and, for what it's worth, took a bootcamp with RSD Tyler last September.

Let's hope the trip goes well.

[Jameson Ranger]

I am of similar age and lived there for 7 months like 3 years ago. PM me, ill give you the rundown.

[MaceTyrell]

Puerto Rico is sounding like a great place in Latin America for black males...Plus post-Maria, the place should be absurdly cheap over the coming years.

Is this a fair assessment? Realized that my rampant Latina fetish combined with most of Latin America being within the EST timezone (either spot on or minus 1-3 hours), makes Latin America a great place for me to do some quick trips (defined as 4-5 days) over the decade.

[Oilrig]

MaceTyrell it all depends on which kinds of Rican chicks you’re going for. The whiter girls will not be open to hooking up with a black man. There’s still a lot of classism and racism amongst the upper class. The same goes for any Latin American country. The darker girls will be more open to being with a black man.

PR has always been cheap, but I’m sure will be cheaper after maria. Rican girls are Hard to crack, Ive never had much luck with the really hot girls there. Some people go and absolutely slay there, some leave empty handed.

[Robert High Hawk]

Does anybody have information on how PR is looking now after the hurricane? Specifically how the sentiment on the island is towards the future?

[Orson]

Puerto Rico - statehood or independence?

The recent vote didn't clarify things: too few people voted in the plebiscite.
(I'm sure statehood, which is where things lean, will not happen unless another new and Republican state emerges to offset the Democrat-dominated one that PR will be in the US Senat [2 seats per state].... There are possibilities like Northern California and Southern Oregon - the state of Jefferson - or else Northern Colorado...someday. But not now.)

I'm sure much is in flux now, only two plus weeks after cat 4 Hurricane Maria. Rebuilding will take years; billions of dollars in relief aid has been authorized, I think.

If you are thinking of going to PR, I would wait until December (or so it had been suggested elsewhere, unless you want to volunteer to work): 95% of electric power is out on the island, and half of the population's water is, too. San Juan will welcome visitors first and soonest, because elsewhere may be primitive for sometime.

It is said that already weak electrical grid - wasted away and neglected like a starved cow - will have to be completely rebuilt. This may take a long time even with new funding.

Trump mentioned purging PRs massive debts on his visit there, this past week. But the President cannot do that. Instead, a board has been set up earlier this year and a Judge will oversee writedowns on bonds of down to 25% of issued value. (Bond values have plummeted this week.)

I trust you know that PR is much like bankrupt Greece in the EU - a beautiful place killed by socialism, debt, and overspending political promises.

If you are thinking about longer term opportunities in PR - such as investment - think next year, next spring and next summer. The situation ought to be clearer by then.

Here's some relevant background from 2015:

Quote:

And as Euro Pacific Capital's Peter Schiff [and Euro-Pacific Dank, a Caribbean bank that moved to PR earlier in 2017] explains, this is far from over--
While Greece is now dominating the debt default stage, the real tragedy is playing out much closer to home, with the downward spiral of Puerto Rico. As in Greece, the Puerto Rican economy has been destroyed by its participation in an unrealistic monetary system that it does not control and the failure of domestic politicians to confront their own insolvency. But the damage done to the Puerto Rican economy by the United States has been far more debilitating than whatever damage the European Union has inflicted on Greece. In fact, the lessons we should be learning in Puerto Rico, most notably how socialistic labor and tax policies can devastate an economy, should serve as a wake-up call to those advocating prescribing the same for the mainland.  
 
The U.S. has bombed the territory of Puerto Rico with five supposedly well-meaning, but economically devastating policies. It has:

1.Exempted the Island's government debt from all U.S. taxes in the Jones-Shaforth Act.
2.Eliminated U.S. tax breaks for private sector investment with the expiration of section 936 of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code.
3.Required the nation to abide by a restrictive trade arrangement.
4.Made the Island subject to the U.S. minimum wage.
5.Enabled Puerto Rico to offer generous welfare benefits relative to income.

While passage of such politically popular laws seems benign on the surface (and have allowed politicians to claim that their efforts have helped the poorest Puerto Ricans), in reality they have deepened the poverty of the very people the laws were supposedly designed to help. The lessons here are so obvious that only the most ardent supporters of government economic control can fail to comprehend them.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-16...uerto-rico

[floridaboiii]

@macetyrell No. I went to PR with my ex two years ago during spring break. I stayed in the tourist zone in San Juan so my experience might be different but I didn't get too much attention from the Ricans. However I did get lots of other attention from spring breakers. The ratio was literally 70% female 30% male.... not sure why and my ex was heated the entire time. I quote her, "Why are there so many girls here?"

Was also one of 5 black dudes I saw that entire trip (was only there like 4 days)

Oh also it was not cheap... my room was dope for like 150 a night right on the beach but taxis anywhere were like 60-100usd they don't have uber... my ex ruined the trip for me but honestly I had way more fun in Mexico (cheaper, more shit to do, more chicks, and she wasn't there lol) of course it might be super cheap now this was 2 years ago.

[Pete]

(10-06-2017 03:12 AM)Orson Wrote:  

Puerto Rico - statehood or independence?

The recent vote didn't clarify things: too few people voted in the plebiscite.
(I'm sure statehood, which is where things lean, will not happen unless another new and Republican state emerges to offset the Democrat-dominated one that PR will be in the US Senat [2 seats per state].... There are possibilities like Northern California and Southern Oregon - the state of Jefferson - or else Northern Colorado...someday. But not now.)

I'm sure much is in flux now, only two plus weeks after cat 4 Hurricane Maria. Rebuilding will take years; billions of dollars in relief aid has been authorized, I think.

If you are thinking of going to PR, I would wait until December (or so it had been suggested elsewhere, unless you want to volunteer to work): 95% of electric power is out on the island, and half of the population's water is, too. San Juan will welcome visitors first and soonest, because elsewhere may be primitive for sometime.

It is said that already weak electrical grid - wasted away and neglected like a starved cow - will have to be completely rebuilt. This may take a long time even with new funding.

Trump mentioned purging PRs massive debts on his visit there, this past week. But the President cannot do that. Instead, a board has been set up earlier this year and a Judge will oversee writedowns on bonds of down to 25% of issued value. (Bond values have plummeted this week.)

I trust you know that PR is much like bankrupt Greece in the EU - a beautiful place killed by socialism, debt, and overspending political promises.

If you are thinking about longer term opportunities in PR - such as investment - think next year, next spring and next summer. The situation ought to be clearer by then.

Here's some relevant background from 2015:

Quote:

And as Euro Pacific Capital's Peter Schiff [and Euro-Pacific Dank, a Caribbean bank that moved to PR earlier in 2017] explains, this is far from over--
While Greece is now dominating the debt default stage, the real tragedy is playing out much closer to home, with the downward spiral of Puerto Rico. As in Greece, the Puerto Rican economy has been destroyed by its participation in an unrealistic monetary system that it does not control and the failure of domestic politicians to confront their own insolvency. But the damage done to the Puerto Rican economy by the United States has been far more debilitating than whatever damage the European Union has inflicted on Greece. In fact, the lessons we should be learning in Puerto Rico, most notably how socialistic labor and tax policies can devastate an economy, should serve as a wake-up call to those advocating prescribing the same for the mainland.  
 
The U.S. has bombed the territory of Puerto Rico with five supposedly well-meaning, but economically devastating policies. It has:

1.Exempted the Island's government debt from all U.S. taxes in the Jones-Shaforth Act.
2.Eliminated U.S. tax breaks for private sector investment with the expiration of section 936 of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code.
3.Required the nation to abide by a restrictive trade arrangement.
4.Made the Island subject to the U.S. minimum wage.
5.Enabled Puerto Rico to offer generous welfare benefits relative to income.

While passage of such politically popular laws seems benign on the surface (and have allowed politicians to claim that their efforts have helped the poorest Puerto Ricans), in reality they have deepened the poverty of the very people the laws were supposedly designed to help. The lessons here are so obvious that only the most ardent supporters of government economic control can fail to comprehend them.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-16...uerto-rico

I lived in PR my whole life and had to leave a week ago due to Maria and the chaos that happened after. The thing that has the island f#cked up is:

1. its own people: they look at politicians as if they are their "bosses", instead of what they actually are: our employees. They don't hold them accountable, so politicians act like they're above the general population.
2. Politicians take advantage of that and steal I'd say 80% of the money they borrow, and then they sell the few assets the government has (electric grid was owned by gov, now they want to sell it cheaply, we had a cellular company and they sold it, they sold all the public hospitals which were free to then pay to use them, they rent all their office space instead of using all the empty public buildings, they sold all the tolls in the island, they sold the airport, etc). Then when it's time to pay back they borrow more money and impose taxes on the clueless people. (fuel tax, electricity tax, increased home ownership tax, increased taxes for imported goods, etc.)I got tired of that. Why keep paying and paying and then get stuck with no electricity and no phone service, no water. Nah.

Social media this week there has been crazy. They've spent the whole week criticizing Trump, but I haven't seen a single post from anyone criticizing the politicians there. They basically did nothing. Even all the donations people are making, those are not getting to the people that need it. I know it, I was there.

After the hurricane, the government took 3 days to start working on removing trees and electricity poles from the streets (even then you'd see more army volunteers working than actual government people), there were no atms working, I had to make 4hr lines to buy (limited to $20) fuel, etc. While the gov had all the supplies stuck at the docks.

Among many other things.

[MaceTyrell]

So Floridaboi, you'd recommend Mexico over PR?

During the month that I had Tinder Plus, I passported to Monterrey & Mexico City - I got 20-25 matches over a 36 hour period (man, that's how white guys must feel lol). So it does show potential. Plus, I am a bit of a history nerd and it would be cool to check out Mayan/Aztec architecture...

[azulsombra]

I've been to PR but briefly. I spent less than a week there but I was getting positive attention everywhere. Guys were cool as hell, friendly and laidback. I had several women flirting with me, like the airline counter woman and a chica that worked in a restaurant at El Yunque the rainforest near the capital.

I regret not going in harder on the local boricuas. At the time I was gaming a Colombian tourist as well as another girl. Driving in PR was quite an experience as its nothing like the mainland. Lots of strange turns and roundabouts, drivers with no headlights or respect for signs. PR food is good and I liked the energy of the island a lot. If you go to san juan check out the bacardi factory tour, its free and you get to sample some cocktails. It gives you an excuse to day drink and run game on the tourists there.

[floridaboiii]

@macetyrell do both. You could like PR more than i do and it could be your paradise... If I had to choose Mexico is superior. You have god status there bc you're black... plus if you aren't just going to hook up with girls there's so much to do in terms of beaches and watering holes and the ruins and museums and pyramids and the people are so damn nice. Also it's cheaper than PR.

[MaceTyrell]

Why would I have "god status" as a black man in Mexico? Like what differs it from non-black friendly Latin American countries (Colombia and Argentina).