[Anon-A-Moose]

Recently started school back up at a small community college with the primary motivation being gaming 18-20 yr olds. My old venue was just out-and-about day game, part of the everyday routine, worked well. I do much better with the older 23-30 blue collar woman crowd, but I'm not realy looking for them; they're just not as hot usually (not in my area at least). I'm 24, so my game/appearance is a bit tighter, and I'm more large/solid/muscular than most of my competition. I had some initial luck through high-energy day game, but this was more just through basically approaching like mad and steamrollering rejection and being a dick; stepping up dickishness is getting diminishing returns though. I've been running into two severe problems with the new venue change; it's like starting from scratch.
The biggest has been bait failure. Default openers are laptop/phone/where is X/what's good to do aroudn here, which is about 85% of my opening. "When I was in Europe/when I lived abroad", "when I taught martial arts", "when I fought in competitions", "when I was running my business"...total flops. Granted not the best, but still I wasn't prepared for the total lack of interest - probably 30-40 approaches and no bites. Welcoming some suggestions for better bait, because I cannot seem to think up anything that gets through to the 18-21 crowd. I get IOIs but they don't contribute anything to the conversation, they don't give me anything to work with.
The second has been getting isolation. I get a few minutes at the most even when they're strongly interested; I'm used to having much more time but the environment makes cold approaching very difficult, big groups/rushing to class/glued to phone or laptop.
I'm probably also hurt by my appearance. I don't dress particularly trendy or cliquish, and I don't know the area. Still working on my appearance.

Thoughts/advice? I'm really disappointed in the results so far of CC; I feel like I've got the resources to really start pulling seriously, but just can't get it down pat.

[WestIndianArchie]

1) tailor your bait to 18-21 year old girls who are addicted to smartphones and twitter. No business, Europe. If you use martial arts, show and not tell. Definitely not opening material.

And don't ask what is there to do around here, that's social leech territory.

2) young and muscular? - switch your gear into t-shirts, jeans, accessories and kick ass shoes. Not an expensive look at all. Stay away from Steve Madden/ALDO and you'll stick out.
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Generally, this ain't my world anymore, (26-32 is my range) but I'd go direct.

Make eye contact, approach with slightly camouflaged sexual intent, and let the chips fall where they may.

Problem with CC is that you usually only see a hot chick once, and it's by chance, unless she's in your class.

WIA

[Juan Antonio]

Younger girls (18 – 22) are the hardest to get via day game cold approach. Basically, a younger woman is considered young until there a visible signs of aging and has the mindset of settling down and getting a family with a partner they love. For argument's sake most women tend to start visibly and mentally aging at 28 on average.

Let’s examine the mindset of younger girls who are generally attractive, particularly the ones in their ‘prime’:

- Young girls are in huge/closely knit social circles. If she is attractive, both girls and guys will want to befriend them.
- Younger girls know that they ‘have time’ and can be as picky as they want to be.
- They get bored more easily since they have guys always trying to get them in some way or another.
- They don't know what they want.
- They have access to any man they want (if they are attractive) from older wealthy men to the coolest young guys available.
- They are more ‘flaky’. This means that they are less likely to keep to their word when it comes to making plans to meet them again.
- They can know they are greatly desired.
- They are more ego driven, hence they would lead guys on who they have NO intention of sleeping with just to brag to their other friends.

When it comes to day game, I noticed that most men have an easier time getting older women. Truth is, even though the older women know what you are up to, they do not care. They are more decision oriented.

Younger women in their prime are the opposite. Younger girls may appear flirtier, but that is because of them being more in touch with their childhood. However, seeming flirty does not guarantee true romantic interest. The only way to measure that is by actually going all the way with her naked in your bed.

Here is the main reason why younger women in their prime are more difficult to get and keep.

Girls between the ages of 18-22 are mostly in university or they are connected with people from their high school. The power of a young women’s social circle is a HUGE threat to a random stranger who approaches her with romantic intent.

Firstly, younger girls in their prime have tons of options within their social circles. Secondly, the value of a man in a woman’s social circle will be much higher than a man who is not apart of her circle of friends. Again, at quick glance, a woman would rather date a guy who is a 7/10 in her social circle than meeting a guy on the street who is a 9/10. This has been proven every single time. I know this from asking tons of women and seeing this firsthand.

This is why once a girl in her prime has a circle of decent friends it is tough to get to her. Especially the prettier she is, the more people want her around.

Let’s not forgot how influenced younger woman are from their friends. I know girls who have dated guys just because their friends recommended. Friends NEVER recommend dating strangers.

This is the reason why even the best day game players/PUAs tend to have great trouble getting sexual relationships with young girls in their prime. They mostly get their women in very late 20s and early 30s, or foreign girls without deep social circles. It's especially difficult when they already have a social circle with their dream boyfriend. Even if you get her number, to actually see her again and have her not flake will be difficult.

[Anon-A-Moose]

I don't really know the smartphone/twitter stuff though. That's an entire generation after me, and I don't have a smartphone/facebook/twitter. I must school myself lol
I'd have tried social circle game, but since I literally just moved (like 2 weeks ago) and know nobody it's much harder. Puts me at a real disadvantage. So, direct daygame openers and packing on muscle until I get that rolling i guess.
We don't have (m)any female exchange students here.

Also thanks.

[Kitsune]

If you want an opening line, then use a situational opener. "That building is massive!" etc.
You must tailor your game to something where your target has a frame of reference. The reason business/travel/sports fall flat at colleges is because most of them haven't done it, so they have no frame of reference. You can use that material, but it comes a lot later when you're displaying other things: Don't play up your age and experience on opening, the girls haven't worked out if you're worth their time yet for a conversation.

I'd honestly say though, if you're going to daygame young girls you have to get them locked in somehow. If you smoke, you can ask some smoking girls for a light and then they are locked in for the five minutes or so they have a smoking break. If they are in a coffee shop, do something similar. If they are just wandering around on campus, ask them to walk you to somewhere close. If you don't lock them in for three minutes or so, they'll be about their day.