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Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?
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Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

Quote: (10-18-2012 05:37 PM)Jason34 Wrote:  

I went and saw a speech therapist. She gave me some bad news. She said that talking just doesn't come naturally to me like it does for almost everyone else. She said speech therapy wouldn't help because I don't really stutter or anything like that.
What the hell?

How can talking not come naturally to you? That's ridiculous. It's like saying to an able-bodied person that walking just doesn't come naturally to him.

Any problem you have with speech should be possible to alleviate with speech therapy.

That therapist sounds like a dumbass. You should get a second opinion.

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#27

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

I have the same thing so I know what you're talking about. It is hard. The gift of word is probably the MOST important gift you can have in this world, for your social life, your professional life, your romantic life... It's the main thing that entertains and attract people. I also did therapy and acting classes but it doesn't help. If the talent is not there... yeah it is JUST NOT THERE ... You should just accept it. Some guys will never walk or see. Be happy that it is just "this" issue you're dealing with.

What I do is talking to myself a lot, it helps to get you to a certain level. It's not enough but every bits help. For gaming I try to go more caveman style.
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#28

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

inspiring story related to your problem:

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So I've been in Beijing this past week for work travel. My subcommunication has really been put to the test since most of the girls don't speak English. I fucked 2 dimes and an 8 using NO WORDS. I also only went out ONE NIGHT (hit 2 clubs on a Saturday)

1. On this night out, I rolled up on a dime and just acted like the man. During bootcamp we had exercises where we couldn't speak for the first minute of the set. Try not speaking for ANY of the set. With someone who speaks English this could come across as weird if you NEVER said anything but it was acceptable in this case. Either way, I highly recommend running some sets with no words and seeing how receptive the girls are. It also allowed me to fine tune my subcommunication (which is already stellar) even further. It's like how since deaf people can't hear, they're more attune to the other shit going on with their other senses. So i start dancing with this chick and giving her the icy eyes and just being the man. I number closed 8 girls this night...all with no words. I would just make a gesture with my thumb like typing into an imaginary phone and I would take out a pen and paper. Keep in mind that in China, (and this is according to my colleagues who live here), girls rarely have one night stands or date multiple guys, or do random hookups. They're all about boyfriend/girlfriend bullshit. So i had the deck stacked against me. One of the girls spoke poor English that was in the group with the dime. I set up logistics with her. I showed her my hotel card and typed drinks out on her phone and pointed at her dime friend. the girl typed back that her friend wants to come with me but that she is afraid because she doesn't know me. that's another chinese thing...they like to travel in groups when seeing a guy that is a stranger for safety reasons. i said fuck it and let them all come along. i won over the whole group with different fun body language and being silly/ridiculous (self-amusing). like i would get in pictures with them and make funny faces and do stupid dancing and whatever the fuck i wanted. i makeout with the dime in the car while her sister sits right next to her hahah. we get back to the hotel room, i isolate the dime to the bathroom and fuck her brains out while the friends wait in the other room. i had my chinese colleague arrange a "send off" for me with this chick tomorrow morning (wednesday morning, beijing is 12 hours ahead of US eastern time). the girl had wanted to meet in public but i had him lie to her over text and tell her that i have to go straight from hotel to airport and for her to come to hotel in the morning...she agreed. she also gave me a sweet chinese necklace lol.

2. now for the 8. this girl was working at a shop. i just eye fucked her a bunch and did a lot of body language flirting. then i bit my lip and pointed at her and then me. basically saying, i want to fuck you without saying jack shit. then i held my hands out like, what do you say. she gave some token resistance (non-verbal) and i kept up persistence and building compliance. when i got her to agree i gave her a paper with my hotel address on it and wrote down my room number. i pointed at my watch and made a motion like when are you done. she said 2 am. i pointed at the 2 on my watch then pointed to the hotel address then raised my eyebrows and nodded (like, come here and fuck me when you get off work). she nodded and smiled. and she came. and i fucked her.

3. this 3rd girl, the other dime.. i'm very proud of. this was actually a day 2 from one of the saturday night number closes. i had my chinese colleague arrange logistics. the girl wanted to meet halfway since she was a 40 minute cab ride away. i answered that objection by telling him to text her that i would get lost in the city since i dont know chinese and to meet at my hotel bar. she wanted to bring a friend since it was a long journey and she didn't know me. i agreed hoping my chinese colleague could block the obstacle AND help translate. turns out he had dinner plans with a friend. but i had the bitches come anyways. i get my laptop with fucking google translate pulled up so that i can communicate with these bitches at least for logistics. i wanted to be able to tell them to go back up to my room in a more finessed way than with pure body language. so the dime arrives SOLO which was sweet. never found out why the friend didn't come along. we go and sit in the hotel bar at a table which is kind of in open dispaly of all the other tables. the reason that's relevant is all these people were watching us have a conversation back and forth with my google translate and an app on her phone to translate chinese into english. the subcommunication was still ruling shit. the translated shit was just aiding in showing i was confident, unreactive, so i could bust on her a little, flirt, false disqualify a little, push/pull, etc. it was hilarious because it was like running online game even though she was sitting right in front of me. most of the shit she typed was super IOI. she kept telling me i have the best personality and am so interesting and handsome and blah blah blah. i told her she is the prettiest girl i have seen in beijing and she was so flattered but shy at the same time -- so i busted on her for being shy and told her shes so lucky to have met a handsome american man. one of her messages was "how you so confident!!!! [Image: smile.gif]" hahaha. nothing against the asian males, but it's probably safe to say in general they are being hardcore chodes..so these bitches aren't used to be dominated or led. i had had a picture taken during a tour of the forbidden city of me in emperor's clothes. this was my ticket back to my room. i told her i want her to see it because it is very funny. once back in the room i told her i wanted to kiss her. she refused and typed out "chinese girls are not so open". this was her token resistance but also culturally ingrained. no match though for my ASD busting and LMR busting tactics. thank you game. her objections were basically that she would want to see me many more times before we kissed, that if she kissed me and i am leaving soon, that she will be let down, etc. i told her that i would take time to see her many more times but that i was leaving so we had no choice. i told her i understand she is a polite lady but she needs to make an exception and have an adventure! i told her she may never ge to see me again. She was still giving me all the body language cues that it was on so i persisted (like usual). i told her in america we have something called eskimo kissing and had her do that with me. that seemed to turn her on as her breathing got heavier. then i told her (via google translate) to look me in the eyes and tell me what she feels. she replied with her translate app that she felt i was handsome. i replied, tell me how you feel in your heart. i basically just got up in her face with ultra icy eyes, eye fucking the shit out of her to an extreme degree and watched her body move up and down as her breathing increased. then i went for the makeout and she got super into it. she went for my dick pretty quickly which was surprising. i'll spare all the details but i fucked her in every position that i could possibly think of and it was probably one of the top 5 best sex sessions i've ever had. she was a solid asian dimepiece. she's coming back tomorrow tonight because i leave tomorrow. then i have the 1st dime in the morning.

i basically built a mini-rotation with stunners WITHOUT SPEAKING THE FUCKING LANGUAGE. granted, i used some text shit back and forth for the 2nd dime but that was mainly for logistics and busting through resistance and setting the man-woman frame and self-amusing and blah blah. most of the attraction was in my subcommunication.

The 2nd dime wants to come visit me in America now and wants me to come back to Beijing lol. She said her birthday is in a couple weeks and is sad that i cannot "accompany her". i'll probably skype with her and have her get naked and shit. i fuckin love my life.

She typed out towards the end, "i do not mean to be rude, but i need to go home to my puppy". lol. fuck. yes.
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#29

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

Quote: (10-18-2012 06:58 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (10-18-2012 05:37 PM)Jason34 Wrote:  

I went and saw a speech therapist. She gave me some bad news. She said that talking just doesn't come naturally to me like it does for almost everyone else. She said speech therapy wouldn't help because I don't really stutter or anything like that.
What the hell?

How can talking not come naturally to you? That's ridiculous. It's like saying to an able-bodied person that walking just doesn't come naturally to him.

Any problem you have with speech should be possible to alleviate with speech therapy.

That therapist sounds like a dumbass. You should get a second opinion.

I guess it's like a developmental disorder. The words just don't come to mind for me.
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#30

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

Quote: (10-19-2012 06:46 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

I have the same thing so I know what you're talking about. It is hard. The gift of word is probably the MOST important gift you can have in this world, for your social life, your professional life, your romantic life... It's the main thing that entertains and attract people. I also did therapy and acting classes but it doesn't help. If the talent is not there... yeah it is JUST NOT THERE ... You should just accept it. Some guys will never walk or see. Be happy that it is just "this" issue you're dealing with.

What I do is talking to myself a lot, it helps to get you to a certain level. It's not enough but every bits help. For gaming I try to go more caveman style.

Yeah it sucks so much not being able to articulate. It feels like I'm stuck in a mental prison.
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Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

Quote: (10-19-2012 07:10 PM)Jason34 Wrote:  

Quote: (10-18-2012 06:58 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (10-18-2012 05:37 PM)Jason34 Wrote:  

I went and saw a speech therapist. She gave me some bad news. She said that talking just doesn't come naturally to me like it does for almost everyone else. She said speech therapy wouldn't help because I don't really stutter or anything like that.
What the hell?

How can talking not come naturally to you? That's ridiculous. It's like saying to an able-bodied person that walking just doesn't come naturally to him.

Any problem you have with speech should be possible to alleviate with speech therapy.

That therapist sounds like a dumbass. You should get a second opinion.

I guess it's like a developmental disorder. The words just don't come to mind for me.

That's sad to hear. Your condition sounds a lot like some case of Asperger's Syndrome, but i have heard that even persons with this condition can improve their verbal fluency with training, but i am not really well informed.

Do they give you a name for the problem you have?
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#32

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

"Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?"
No, cuz the less you talk, the better it is. Being talkative is not sexy.
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#33

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

First of all, the idea that ONE thing can "kill your chances" is the wrong mindset, I think. Everything matters, but very few things have an all-or-nothing effect. Tons of tiny things add up to your overall results, so you should work on everything, just in the right order. If you're having doubts about your voice tone, it seems like the place to invest your effort.

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Take a public speaking course. You'll have to write your own speeches and perform in front of an audience. They'll do a question and answer thing at the end where you're forced to interact with each other. Trust me it works wonders. I got to the point where I didn't even write anything anymore and I just free-styled the whole thing.

I second this. I went through a Toastmasters course and it taught me a ton, and I also met a new wingman through it.

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You are going to need to upload an audio clip of at least 2 minutes of ramble on your favourite topic for us to decide how bad your speech is.

Agreed. And get in the habit of recording yourself and practicing. I do it every couple of weeks while driving, and this thread just reminded me to keep at it more often.
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#34

Does having a speech disorder kill your chances of getting laid ?

INVEST in dealing with this.

Get some CBT therapy, they will give you lots of techniques for the anxiety, 6-10 sessions will change your life, it did for me.

For the speech, see a therapist, get some elocution lessons, learn and practice reading poetry, attach this problem pal and you will beat it.

I think a slight speech impediment can add character if you do the above and sort the other issues.

Watch the kings speech. Look at all these famous people who had speech problems and got over it. YOU CAN AND WILL DO IT TOO.

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/pub...mous.shtml
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