[Spartan]

After reading Roosh's description, some other internet blogs, and my own previous trip I was apprehensive about relocating to Krakow.

After a few daygame approaches here yesterday..I really wasn't enjoying it.
First of all, it took me a lot of time to even find a girl worth approaching in Galeria Krakowska.
Then, when I started talking, she had attitude- she even turned away to stop talking to me..reminds me of American girls.

I did find a friendly girl who was smiling and conversing with me, but she was not attractive.

Has anyone ever had fun in Krakow? How so?
Does it get better when students arrive later on?


PS I'll post some pics/ and audio of approaches to give an idea of it.
In fact, please post openers or locations you think will work and I will try them out and post recordings of the results.

Stuff I've tried so far:

Galeria Krakowska- self-important professional girl with an attitude, attractive girl negative attitude, unattractive girl that was friendly. Few girls in the Carrefour.
Planty- not many girls, except for 1 looking to borrow a cigarette
Blonie- totally deserted area, I approached 1 but no result
Nowa Huta, Aleja Roz- seemed like a nice area, but mostly old people. Saw 2 hot girls..probably the first really attractive girls in my time in Krakow, but they were with BFs.

[Greek kamaki]

Galeria Krakowska is useless.Try the Krakow Glowny and bus stations around and move more to city periphery instead of centre.
What do you think about polish girls attitude compared to Belarussian ones?Do you see lots of foreigners in Krakow?Do they have girls with them?

[Way Cool Jr]

Try to game in the bus stations and during your ride, you'll see plenty of targets.
Also you can daygame in the Jewish Town and in the streets that lead to the main square.
Some girls will be in a hurry or have a bad attitude but it's a number game, eventually you'll find a nice sexy girl there.

[The Fantasist]

Hang in there. You're probably making mental comparisons to Belarus and it's coming up short but within a few weeks you'll get a better vibe with the women,get a new social circle and discover good places. I think you're going to end up having a great time there.

What happened to lublin?

[Spartan]

Attitude to men seems worse overall, however these are all hardcore locals...students from rhe villages will have better attitudes hopefully.

A very bad omen is the large PUA industry in Krakow. When the local men newd workshops to learn how to attract girls, its a bad situation.

I agree very much, moving to the periphery is much better. I particularly like Nowa Huta and may find an apartament there.

stay away from UJ girls... very stuck up. (uj is poland's equivalent of harvard)

The city itself is beautiful(UNESCO site) and it offers amazing career/financial opportunities...(i've met several people with top tier USA educations)
However, it seems much more challenging for pickup.

I'm moving to the periphery to try some approaches...but I wish there was a more central park/socializing area to do many approaches at once. Perhaps libraries and universities....

[Way Cool Jr]

By the way, I suggest you to approach just in english, much better than with polish.
Maybe some girls won't reply, but they will find you more exotic

[Spartan]

(09-09-2012 05:46 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Hang in there. You're probably making mental comparisons to Belarus and it's coming up short but within a few weeks you'll get a better vibe with the women,get a new social circle and discover good places. I think you're going to end up having a great time there.

What happened to lublin?

Better career opportunity in Krakow...so I'll give it a shot here.

I'm trying to import some of my old social circle here. Getting my Nigerian friend visa help. He was so impressed with pictures of Krakow I sent him that he said "Its just like I imagined the US is !".....unfortunately, he is correct, for better and for worse.

[The Fantasist]

Nova Huta,I heard bad things about that place whilst in krakow but when I took the tram up there it seemed ok but I never went into the real grim areas. Is it as dangerous as some said?

[Spartan]

Nowa huta is safe if you keep a normal profile and your eyes open. It seemed mostly full of old folks and conservative working class people. Very peaceful area with lots of trees and broad socialist avenues, reminiscent of Minsk in that respect.


I'm going to do some approaches and audio of them in a few minutes here.

[polish rumble]

(09-09-2012 05:34 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Galeria Krakowska is useless.Try the Krakow Glowny and bus stations around and move more to city periphery instead of centre.
What do you think about polish girls attitude compared to Belarussian ones?Do you see lots of foreigners in Krakow?Do they have girls with them?

and don't you know that those two locations are actually connected in one ? I'm surprised you suggest gaming at a railway station when girls are usually in a hurry, I don't think that they are up for a chat. Shopping mall is a way better place.

(09-09-2012 05:40 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

Try to game in the bus stations and during your ride, you'll see plenty of targets.
Also you can daygame in the Jewish Town and in the streets that lead to the main square.
Some girls will be in a hurry or have a bad attitude but it's a number game, eventually you'll find a nice sexy girl there.

Gaming at the city centre is the worst idea you can have, the number of tourist is overwhelming, and the girls got serious attitudes mostly bcuz they got used to horny foreigners

(09-09-2012 05:59 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

By the way, I suggest you to approach just in english, much better than with polish.
Maybe some girls won't reply, but they will find you more exotic

The is no such thing like exotic factor in Kraków, at lest it won't help

(09-09-2012 06:10 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Nova Huta,I heard bad things about that place whilst in krakow but when I took the tram up there it seemed ok but I never went into the real grim areas. Is it as dangerous as some said?

It's not Middle East, you cannot get hurt during the day, but in the night time I suggest to avoid NH or keep your eyes wide open

[Roosh]

I don't remember recommending guys go to Krakow.

[Greek kamaki]

(09-09-2012 08:43 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  

(09-09-2012 05:34 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Galeria Krakowska is useless.Try the Krakow Glowny and bus stations around and move more to city periphery instead of centre.
What do you think about polish girls attitude compared to Belarussian ones?Do you see lots of foreigners in Krakow?Do they have girls with them?

and don't you know that those two locations are actually connected in one ? I'm surprised you suggest gaming at a railway station when girls are usually in a hurry, I don't think that they are up for a chat. Shopping mall is a way better place.

(09-09-2012 05:40 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

Try to game in the bus stations and during your ride, you'll see plenty of targets.
Also you can daygame in the Jewish Town and in the streets that lead to the main square.
Some girls will be in a hurry or have a bad attitude but it's a number game, eventually you'll find a nice sexy girl there.

Gaming at the city centre is the worst idea you can have, the number of tourist is overwhelming, and the girls got serious attitudes mostly bcuz they got used to horny foreigners

(09-09-2012 05:59 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

By the way, I suggest you to approach just in english, much better than with polish.
Maybe some girls won't reply, but they will find you more exotic

The is no such thing like exotic factor in Kraków, at lest it won't help

(09-09-2012 06:10 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Nova Huta,I heard bad things about that place whilst in krakow but when I took the tram up there it seemed ok but I never went into the real grim areas. Is it as dangerous as some said?

It's not Middle East, you cannot get hurt during the day, but in the night time I suggest to avoid NH or keep your eyes wide open

I know Glowny is connected to Galeria Krakowska and actually this is a big problem.You have to spot on the girls going to train and not to shopping centre.Generally these malls attract good looking girls who have been hit million of times by tourists and have attitude.
On the suburbs of Krakow I found better cases but I do not remember the bus numbers to take.Anyway one has to move out of Rynek and the centre.I would also try Rzeszow which is close or some small city in Krakow area(Myslenice etc).I noticed there some opportunities.
Katowice is worthless.My guess is the same about Gliwice.Prszemysl totally not worth it.Lvov is much better than Krakow of course.I would suggest the OP to take the train to Prszemysl and then the bus to Lvov(total about 8 hours).It will be an eye opener.

[Greek kamaki]

(09-09-2012 06:14 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

Nowa huta is safe if you keep a normal profile and your eyes open. It seemed mostly full of old folks and conservative working class people. Very peaceful area with lots of trees and broad socialist avenues, reminiscent of Minsk in that respect.


I'm going to do some approaches and audio of them in a few minutes here.

Broad socialist avenues?This is a hardcore communist area built by PRL authorities as a counterbalance to Krakow to show that communist regime is far better than anything in the past.

I think with a Trabant you would be irresistible to polish girls.(just kidding).

[XXL]

when you talk to people understand the situation and vibe. engage girls that want to be engaged. when she genuinely seem like she's in a rush at railway station, let it go, let them be. don't tag along if she seems disinterested. (read social cues!). when some girls just excuse themselves it's ok you can't expect most girls to love you. but then majority just flat out ignore you or give you shit right away then i think there something off about how you first impression. to measure it try to go up, introduce yourself and chit chat, if most of them is put off instantly then work on yourself cause no opener will make difference.

throw out a comment or a question or statement about her cause she something about her peaked your interest, just out of curiosity. if she seems ok with that she will say something back and talk to you. and it goes from there. it's same thing for coffee shop, mall, gym, old city, parks, etc.

IMO the fun is usually KILLED by forcing the situation, forcing girls to respond like a sniper one shot one kill. instead think about pickup as exploring the options, searching receptive ones.

[SVK]

Did you hit online yet? Though not tried in Poland, this is something that was completely effortless and worked very well in Bratislava, Slovakia for me as a Slovakian American. Just write a profile in some popular Polish dating site, in Polish language of course. Actually, hit up all of the popular sites that operate in Krakow. Describe your situation honestly - e.g. you are a Polish-American student studying in Krakow and would love to meet a nice Polish girl. Maybe some bullshit like 'I would like to connect with my Polish roots' or something. Then prepare some decent opener and spam the site, set up dates with girls, etc.
Also, you are in school, play the social circle game HEAVILY, you will get laid without even trying. Join some clubs, whether school affiliated or not. E.g. salsa dancing or something, pussy must be raining down on you there.

As XXL said, don't force things. I think you mentioned before that you are a bit socially unaware (slight Aspie?). Maybe don't go out to the mall with the explicit intention to daygame, but game girls as you go about your daily business. Keep yourself busy, make friends, be social. Just remember to escalate when the situation is right.

[Deif]

In Bang Poland, Roosh recommends visiting Poznan and Wroclaw. His review of Krakow is negative.

[Greek kamaki]

He does not speak negatively about Krakow.He says that the difficulty of Krakow is overestimated.He says the same in Poland thread.Actually we had a discussion about that in Ukraine thread I think.

In my opinion the difference of polish girls that separates them from FSU girls is that they believe everything you say they are rather gullible in this regard.For example if you tell them I have 5 houses,three big cars etc they will believe it.I do not know why it happens.This is also the method Albanians use to exctract them(lying blatantly about thie rproperty,intentions etc).Classic line:I am building a house for you and my baby etc.Slavic women are supposed to eat it up especially if you talk about babies,future etc.

[Vicious]

From all I've read on the board there's been little to no recommendations on Krakow. I did extensive research on this for an eventual business trip to the city but I called it of when Krakow was more or less universally panned. Both on the board and in Bang Poland.

[The Fantasist]

(09-10-2012 05:39 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

From all I've read on the board there's been little to no recommendations on Krakow. I did extensive research on this for an eventual business trip to the city but I called it of when Krakow was more or less universally panned. Both on the board and in Bang Poland.

I have been three times and loved it every time. I think it's an awesome city,stunning architecturally,cheap and with a lot of interesting little pubs and clubs in the cellars of buildings in the old town. I also found the women fun and open and I flagged on two of the three weekend trips Admittedly I have not been for 6 years so no doubt things have changed but even back then there were loutish British stag parties being dicks,but it never seemed to tarnish me as a Brit in the eyes of the local women.

I'm not saying it's the best city ( I found it much better then Warsaw however ) in Poland,you certainly won't get any wow factor by being foreign but it's still a great place to visit and party in in my opinion. Having said that,I'll repeat that my last trip was a half decade ago and it might be different now.

[Greek kamaki]

Here is what roosh wrote about Krakow.2 girls in 3 nights.(similar to Poznan just more foreigners).

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-4184-p...#pid117892

We had a discussion about that in Ukraine thread I think where I expressed doubts about Krakow thinking of the place as having largely been played out by staggers.

[Spartan]

Yeah, perhaps this place won't be so bad after october when the studentki return.

Plus, staying long term and having some heavyweight career DHV can help out.

Worst case, its aways possible to change, as long as you're alive. I heard about patients in the child oncology ward today and how hard it is to see a kid realize he's not going to get better or live much...sometimes its good to keep our small problems in perspective.