[JayMillz]

I only remember him from the song "F*** Compton." Interesting how he was able to scam women all over the world and get away virtually scott free even when they conspired to bring him down. His wife isn't bad either for an old has been.

Here is just part one of 11 parts, if interested:

[speakeasy]

Holy shit, Tim Dog! Haven't heard about him since high school back in '93! So this is what he's up to these days.

[Kickb]

I might buy his boxset. Listen to the first track.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001RQ6...dm_dp_trk1

[speakeasy]

I wasn't planning on watching the whole thing, but once I got started it was hard to not click on the next one. The guy's game must be at Matrix level. He conned this young, beautiful chic(starts at a minute in) into moving down with him in Atlanta:

Now Tim Dog is no pretty boy, has the physique of a potato sack and he's 45. Yet he got a this pretty hot girl(A solid 8.5 or 9 on my scale) that looks mid 20s to leave Ohio and move down to Atlanta with him, miraculously using phone game. And to think, the average chump online doesn't even walk away with a single date from a "5". Granted, the chic did have a kid and that lowered her value a bit, but she was hot, thin, young and was into him. Now if he wasn't an idiot, that could've been a great deal for a dude like him, a keeper.


This segment might be of most interest to the guys in the forum. In this video, he gets recorded by a woman set up on a date with him and you get to see him spit some of his game on camera. He knows how to control the conversation and assert his dominance. He also tries to instadate to her hotel bedroom. The guy knows what he's doing. This is no "datelab" kinda guy. I would love to see some former con artists write a game book, that shit would be on the next level.

[JayMillz]

(09-04-2012 08:33 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Now if he wasn't an idiot, that could've been a great deal for a dude like him, a keeper.

Keep in mind, these are only the women that Dateline found out about. Not hard to think there must have been others. Also, he was married with a child when he was bagging Ohio. I'm still at a loss for how he was pulling all of this off with the fly crib in the Atlanta high rise for gaming.

Here is his wife:

[speakeasy]

(09-04-2012 08:47 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 08:33 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Now if he wasn't an idiot, that could've been a great deal for a dude like him, a keeper.

Keep in mind, these are only the women that Dateline found out about. Not hard to think there must have been others. Also, he was married with a child when he was bagging Ohio. I'm still at a loss for how he was pulling all of this off with the fly crib in the Atlanta high rise for gaming.

Here is his wife:

I was wondering about that too. You can learn a lot from a guy like this. Not that I advocate that scamming and being a criminal, but just the level at which he can hustle and play women.

What he's running is pimp game. That's the next level in game. This guy can get sex no problem, that much is clear. The next step up the chain is when you can get women to not only open their legs for you with ease but get them to empty their wallets for you. He is using women for financial gain and having them do it voluntarily. And still fucking them. That is pimp game.

[mistermister]

gotta love america man. black man hires the best g'damn white southern lawyer rocking the white colonel sanders suit and coming off the scam with a plea deal. reminder to always have f--k you money in the bank for life's uncertainties.

[teh_skeeze]

He reinforces what I already know about putting a bitch in line. You don't discipline her with your hands, you discipline her with your cock. I like his wording better though.

[Grit]

Does he get arrested for anything? tl: dr

Take his situation with the cute chick. Did he steal money? Make her pay for rent or vehicles? It seemed like she got to live in his condo for free. That could easily be a step up for some girls.

Should we conveniently ignore that she capitalized on paid flights to his place, meals and dining, and fun?

Should we ignore that she moved in barely knowing him?

She even had to *flee*; but driving the car that he fixed!

Lets not forget the plain truth: her got sex from her on her own sugar coated assumptions. When she didn't get the sugar daddy she wanted, BOOM con man. What happens when you assume? It makes an ass-u-me: an ass out of you and me, but mostly just you.

[Roosh]

Whitney is real nice. I don't know how he can date those other heffers compared to her.

[The Fantasist]

My father was into what this guy did but not on such a large scale but I remember one incident when I was young. We had just returned from living in Holland for a few years. My father met this woman in the pub and started banging her,really charmed her with bullshit. Anyway she let it slip that she had £15000 in the bank. My father saw an angle and sold her a line that was seemingly impossible to believe: He told her that he'd left Holland and returned to England because there were hit men after him because of a business deal gone bad and the only way he could call them off was to pay them £17000 ( this was early 80's when that was a lot of money ) If he never paid them the money he'd either be killed or he'd have to leave her and the UK. She'd only known him for two weeks but she said "I know,why don't I give you the money and then we can set up home together". What a great idea he said asthough the thought had never
crossed his mind and so she gave it to him in cash! Silly woman. He spent the money in a few weeks on beer and women and she never heard from him again but she knew he'd conned her.

The reason I remember it all is because he received a writ to appear in court a few months later. She'd gone to a lawyer. But she'd made a terrible mistake though,she thought his name was David Smith whereas his surname was a word sounding like Smith but not Smith. So when he got the writ he ignored it since it wasn't his name. She now could not afford to go through the procedure of paying the lawyers again and to write out a writ in his real name. He got away with it.

Stupid fucking woman though. A) to believe the hit man bullshit and B) to lend a man seventeen grand without even knowing his surname.

In the end he took my mum to the cleaners too when he finally left and when he recently left his LTR and moved to Indonesia he took her to the cleaners through a mixture of intimidation and threats. The guy is insanely alpha and totally amoral with no regards for anyone but himself. Seems that those are attractive qualities to women.

[JayMillz]

(09-05-2012 07:00 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Whitney is real nice. I don't know how he can date those other heffers compared to her.

Probably because she was broke. It looks like everything he did had a money angle to it. Perhaps he was thinking about trying to make Whitney a stripper or something like that, which is why he took her to a strip club on the first date. The heffers had money and he already had a wife and possibly some other Whitneys on the side that Dateline didn't uncover.

[Menace]

This is the guy who should be teaching game workshops. He could probably make a ton of money.

[Kitsune]

I'll never feel like an asshole for calling a girl chubby again.

[JofSuperman]

Ended up watching the whole thing. This dude is no amateur, he is a seasoned veteran of the game.

He has street smarts as well, being skeptical when meeting up with the girl working for the camera crew, and checking out the hotel bar and patting her, and then giving her a litmus test to see if she was willing to have him come back to her hotel room.

Dude definitely won! And the nerve he had at the sit down interview with NBC, reframing it as the women being gold diggers. After all that, he only gets 5 years probation and it gets cleared from his record.

Lesson learned, never back down from anything and always have a good lawyer.

[speakeasy]

Speaking of the chic Whitney on the video, have any of you guys that do online game ever tried hitting up a hot chic that lives in another city or state? Until this video I didn't even think that was doable.

Finding a hot girl who lives in a small town might work out if she's young, maybe a bit naive and you can present yourself as a big city baller.

[Moma]

So that's where Pusscrook has been.

[JofSuperman]

(09-05-2012 01:16 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Speaking of the chic Whitney on the video, have any of you guys that do online game ever tried hitting up a hot chic that lives in another city or state? Until this video I didn't even think that was doable.

Finding a hot girl who lives in a small town might work out if she's young, maybe a bit naive and you can present yourself as a big city baller.

I tried this, when I was in the DMV, I hit some girls up out of state, in states like PA, WV, NY and MA. I would easily get their numbers and text them on the phone trying to get them to come to DC for me to show them around town. I was focusing exclusively on young girls, 23 or younger, so most where broke as fuck, and seemed like it would take them forever to get enough cash to travel to the DMV so I cut my loses.

But the opportunity was definitely there, they actually seemed easier than local girls, minus the money issue. Just focus on the ones in the rural hick areas, and play up the big city baller. Have photos of you in suited up looking like a "G" and they eat it up!

[JJ Roberts]

Hypergamy and stupidity is not a good mix

[Giovonny]

He is just a liar and con man. He is not a pimp. Pimps don't ask women to invest in business deals. These women gave him money with the expectation that the money would be returned with interest. They went to the police because they didn't get their money back. That ain't pimping.

He is no more of a pimp then Bernie Madoff.

He probably will have more criminal cases coming and will possibly end up in prison. That is bad game.

The only thing I have learned form this guy is to make legal, legitimate money so I don't have to risk my freedom ripping people off.

(09-05-2012 01:16 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Speaking of the chic Whitney on the video, have any of you guys that do online game ever tried hitting up a hot chic that lives in another city or state? Until this video I didn't even think that was doable.

Finding a hot girl who lives in a small town might work out if she's young, maybe a bit naive and you can present yourself as a big city baller.

He got that young girl because he presented himself as a rich, industry big shot who could help her modeling career. He promised to pay for her daughters schooling and let her live in his condo, etc.

This is a very common scenario. Dude pretends to an industry big shot who can help a young models career. Dude lies about his wealth and connections. Young, dumb, naive girl buys the lie and bangs the dude thinking it will advance her career. One of the oldest tricks in the book.

If this dude actually did have ultimate game, he would actually be rapping, producing, and promoting. If he was actually doing that, he would be making money and banging tons of hotties and thus would not have to rip off older fatties to support his wife and kid.

[JayMillz]

(09-05-2012 02:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

If this dude actually did have ultimate game, he would actually be rapping, producing, and promoting. If he was actually doing that, he would be making money and banging tons of hotties and thus would not have to rip off older fatties to support his wife and kid.

http://www.timdogmusic.com/

[Chief]

Woman was silly for giving the money up. Your dad sounds like a scumbag, nothing to be proud of there at all. Insanely "alpha" thief/mooch. Preying on weak people does not fit my definition of alpha.

(09-05-2012 08:27 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

My father was into what this guy did but not on such a large scale but I remember one incident when I was young. We had just returned from living in Holland for a few years. My father met this woman in the pub and started banging her,really charmed her with bullshit. Anyway she let it slip that she had £15000 in the bank. My father saw an angle and sold her a line that was seemingly impossible to believe: He told her that he'd left Holland and returned to England because there were hit men after him because of a business deal gone bad and the only way he could call them off was to pay them £17000 ( this was early 80's when that was a lot of money ) If he never paid them the money he'd either be killed or he'd have to leave her and the UK. She'd only known him for two weeks but she said "I know,why don't I give you the money and then we can set up home together". What a great idea he said asthough the thought had never
crossed his mind and so she gave it to him in cash! Silly woman. He spent the money in a few weeks on beer and women and she never heard from him again but she knew he'd conned her.

The reason I remember it all is because he received a writ to appear in court a few months later. She'd gone to a lawyer. But she'd made a terrible mistake though,she thought his name was David Smith whereas his surname was a word sounding like Smith but not Smith. So when he got the writ he ignored it since it wasn't his name. She now could not afford to go through the procedure of paying the lawyers again and to write out a writ in his real name. He got away with it.

Stupid fucking woman though. A) to believe the hit man bullshit and B) to lend a man seventeen grand without even knowing his surname.

In the end he took my mum to the cleaners too when he finally left and when he recently left his LTR and moved to Indonesia he took her to the cleaners through a mixture of intimidation and threats. The guy is insanely alpha and totally amoral with no regards for anyone but himself. Seems that those are attractive qualities to women.

[Giovonny]

(09-05-2012 03:48 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(09-05-2012 02:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

If this dude actually did have ultimate game, he would actually be rapping, producing, and promoting. If he was actually doing that, he would be making money and banging tons of hotties and thus would not have to rip off older fatties to support his wife and kid.

http://www.timdogmusic.com/

I know he used to make music but what is he doing now???

If he is in the music businesss why is he ripping off fat 50 year old women and risking jail time?

Can anyone find any songs that he has been on or that he has produced?

He is probably just struggling to make money and has resorted to stealing and fraud in order to pay his bills.

I wouldn't trust anything that he says on his own website. I wanna see his name on the back of a cd or something. Or, hear him rap on a single that is being marketed and sold.

[JayMillz]

(09-05-2012 04:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I know he used to make music but what is he doing now???

Did you bother to look through the website to get that answer?

[Roosh]

(09-05-2012 10:55 AM)Menace Wrote:  

This is the guy who should be teaching game workshops. He could probably make a ton of money.

He is. His PUA name is Justin Wayne.