The next stop on my Central and Eastern Europe destination map – Belgrade the capital city of Serbia. The main reason why I wanted to finally checked out that city was because of its famous nightlife. In every damn man’s magazine I have read recently, don’t matter if it was GQ, Men’s Health or Playboy cuz they were all telling the same – visit Belgrade the city with great nightlife and beautiful women. Firstly, I checked out Belgrade talent on Badoo and I was truly amazed, then checked out RVF – no real-deal data sheet or hype, but the thing that intrigued me the hell out was this whole Balkan Power thing, and I admit I couldn’t believe that anyone can actually believe in such a crap. Our one and only poster from Greece made his life mission here to present Serbian (Balkan?) men as half-gods in every way. I have never met a Serbian guy before so I thought I had to verify his ridiculous theories, and hopefully cut the Balkan Power shit out once and for all. Here are my thoughts after a week in Belgrade.
THE CITY
Let’s face it, Serbia is a poor country. Serbian economy is based mostly on farming. As a Pole I can totally understand Serbs – Balkans were always a unstable place, frequent wars and conflicts changed local environment and mentality. Belgrade is no exception. Mind you that in 1999 NATO was bombarding the city, so it was basically a not that long ago. I didn’t like it. It’s not a place for a honeymoon, or to send your kid for a holiday, but fuck that, I wasn’t there for sightseeing. The info you might wanna know is that it’s a capital city, 1,7 MLN inhabitants and it’s cheap. My hotel (Hyatt) was by far cheaper than the same quality hotels in EE including Poland. Booze is cheap, cabs are chap – what not to like about it. It’s worth to add that it’s not a popular travel destination, and foreign competition is almost none. When it comes to language in Serbia they use Srpski, from Slavic languages family. With my polish and Russian combined I was able to understand 40% – 50% of what they were mumbling about. I actually think that my Russian helped me out more than my English – a lot of females were able to speak or understand in Russian. I’d say that 50% - 60% of girls speak some English, but only 20% fluently, so after a while I didn’t even bother using it. Belgrade is way more interesting during the night, for more details skip it to the nightlife section.
I almost forgot: when I was there, it was hot as hell, during the whole week temperature was never below 35 C, but I have been told that this was more like an exception than the rule, nevertheless the streets were almost empty in the afternoon, people were looking for shelters, so day game options were limited.
SERBIAN MEN
The part I’ve been waiting for. Where should I begin? Let’s start with the appearance. Our Greek poster says that they are one of the tallest in the world. Well, I found out the official numbers, and it turns out that average male height in Serbia is 178,5 cm [proof] so it’s only 1cm more than i.e Poland. My observation confirms it – you can spot someone who’s 170 as well as 195. I’m 184 cm and I wasn’t overwhelmed by them at any point. But the fact is that in Dinaric Alps region live the tallest men on earth with average height 185,6 cm. I wouldn’t be worry tho, since this area is not urbanized. Anyway hyping Serbian height is trolling. Some say that they are athletic and muscular. Once again don’t get it twisted. The average Serbian men is just like everywhere else in the EE. But I have to agree on the sports thing going on. In a poor country like Serbia many young men don’t see an opportunity to get easy money apart from professional sport, so many of them practice some sports. But don’t think that everyone you pass by here looks like MMA fighter. Telling that Serbians are muscular is like telling that Russians are racist. You know what I mean? Check out photo galleries or videos on YTB – you’ll find as many skinny ones as well as the ones with round belly. Typical Serb has dark hair and dark eyes. They are Slavic, but with Mediterranean element and that makes them look slightly better than Slavic people from the north. They dress up pretty good. I’ve been even told that a Serb can spend most of his salary on buying new clothes, and you know what? For once I can actually believe in it. Now let’s analyse how they act. You have to know two things : 1. Balkan culture is all about the man and masculinity, women are only an addition, 2. Family is very important.
My thoughts exactly. Ok, I must admit, a Serbian guy with game is macho. But so what? I was approaching many hotties and all I got from guys was (sometimes) nasty eye contact, but when I looked back they couldn’t even hold it. However I’ll never forget when talking to a girl, suddenly a guy came out of nowhere, started asking her something, then walked away. When I asked the girl who was that guy and what was it all about, she replied that it was her brother, sort of checking out on her, but she told him that everything’s fine. This happened for me twice, I have never seen something like that before (I wonder what would happen if she replied that I’m a douche), but it only confirms that the family is sacred for them. Apart from that, I was never punched, pushed, bad mouthed or anything like that. Intimidating? Bitch please. Serbian guys do not drink that much as we do here, or in FSU. They are absolutely not psycho like the Russians are. Those who were in Russian club after midnight probably know what I’m talking about. I’d even say that polish guys are more aggressive when intoxicated. My contacts with the guys were limited, but I got mostly positive impressions. Keep in mind tho, that I tried to behave and people respect my look (I actually doubled trainings before my holidays). Here I give you a list of things that should never come out of your mouth when talking to a Serb:
• Politics and History (they are mostly nationalists, the things like Kosovo are the pain in ass)
• Religion (don’t even start it)
• Football (they will bore you to death talking about Crvena Zvezda vs Partizan derby)
• Croatia (no comparisons, don’t even mention if you actually been there before)
Anyway behave yourself and watch what you say, they are mostly proud of who they are so do not injure it, and you should be fine.
SERBIAN WOMEN
Maybe Belgrade isn’t the prettiest city, but in terms of women it’s absolutely European first league. Badoo certainly don’t lie. Average female height is around 170, but a picture of 175 girl is nothing special, plus add 10cm heels to that. Serbian girls are amazing combination of Slavic genes and Mediterranean environment. The things you will love about them are soft, mostly swarthy skin, gorgeous eyes and beautiful dark hair (you will find some fake blondes if you’re into those things). Serbia is less varied than PL, UA or RUS. Slavic genes caused big noses, superb legs, and nice breasts, but if you are a booty lover, this is not your place. The next thing is there was no single obese girl in Belgrade, I honestly think that they don’t know what ‘obesity’ means. Even tho it was still summer time I was pretty amazed with the overall quality. It was like you see a 8, and you want to approach her, but then suddenly another girl walks next to you and she’s even better. In the clubs girls were mostly dancing, no big deal for me, I see it every day in Poland. I was just a bit disappointed about how they dress up when going out cuz sandals or ballerinas plus shorts are totally unacceptable for me as EE guy. The looks to the side, they are really hard to crack. It’s definitely not like in Ukraine, where foreign status gives you sort of advantage, in case of Serbia the key to get laid is not to show the girl how different you are from the locals, but how similar you are. It’s not like in Poland where girl will be open and let you tell her your weak bullshit only because you are American. Serbian women are phenomenon: they tell you how much they fell underestimated by their men, but at the end of a day they’ll stick to them. It’s really hilarious how many complains I’ve heard about Serbian men attitude, but so what? They got used to this whole dominant macho thing, and it’s clear to me that this is the way you should hit it. Oh and they smoke a lot. It’s such a turn off… More info about women in game section
NIGHTLIFE
What can I say, they know how to party. GQ didn’t lie, it’s a great place to be. I was going out through the whole week and I didn’t even matter whether it was Tuesday or Friday night, the places were packed but in a good way. You better put on your club game here. Splavovi – the speciality of Belgrade (floating clubs) it’s something unique. Here are some useful info that helped me out a lot:
Make sure to check out the links. I wanted to make my own club guide, but it would be completely pointless since I found this site, with everything perfectly shown including timetable schedule and recent photo galleries. My tip is to use ‘follow the pussy’ technique. My experience shown that the best looking, and most approachable girls are choosing places with house and turbo folk music.
Now you know where you can find the best talent. It’s your advantage. Try to look for an apartment, hotel as close as you can get to the river to improve your logistics.
Prices:
• Soft drinks 1.5€ – 2€
• Local Beer 1.5€ – 2€
• Imported Beer 2€ – 4€
• Red bull 5€
• Johhny Walker 2.5€ – 4€
Bottle: 80€ – 100€
• Ballantines2.5€ – 4€
Bottle: 80€ – 100€
• Johhny Black Label 5€ - 7€
Bottle: 120€ – 140€
• Vodka 2.5€ – 4€
Bottle: 80€ – 100€
• Tequila 2.5€ – 4€
• White wine 2€ – 3€
Bottle: 20€ – 100€
• Red wine 2€ – 3€
Bottle: 20€ – 100€
• Sex on the Beach, Mai tai, Long Island Ice Tea, Blue Lagoon, Mohito 3.5€ – 5€
GAME
Here are some of my personal advices on how to get laid in Belgrade:
• In the clubs high energy, smile and dancing skills are fundamental
• Mixed sets are waste of time, if you see a mixed set in a club, unless you can tell that the males are total betas, don’t even try to interact with them (unless you are introduced by someone), Serbs won’t let you even touch their ladies. Sorry.
• The good news is, that single Serbian men often stick together. A picture where there are separate groups of males and females in one place is very common in Belgrade, and here is your chance
• There is no such thing like romantic Serb. As I said earlier, when Serb is approaching he tries to be dominant and macho, I tried this whole romance thing but it turns out its good for Poland, not really for Serbia, the girls seemed bored
• It’s not a nice guy territory, If you can’t show that you are alpha you won’t get laid here
• Don’t try to be intellectual type, talk about family values or tradition and the girls will appreciate it
• Ultimately, the best thing to talk about, is sport. No bullshit. I’ve been told that the hottest Serbian school/uni girls are dating only with guys who practice some kind of sport. Many things here revolves around it, it’s another kind of phenomenon. So the best way to impress the girl is to say that you are/were a sportsman, but I hope your body will prove what comes out of your mouth, Serbian girls aren’t stupid.
• Your appearance is very important, I cannot imagine how someone who is less than 180 /5’11 can pull like a champ here, since girls with the heels on are usually around that height, and it seems to me that the taller the better
• I highly recommend you to hit up the gym, read about creatine and other supplements and start your training, It’s out of discussion that in Serbia (Balkans?) muscular>intelligent
• I disagree that Serbian girls don’t like to talk to foreigners, u just need to choose wisely, and the girl will be pleased to talk to you
• One thing I’ve learned is that it’s better to open a girl that is dancing and having a good time than the one who is constantly standing close to a bar, sort of asking for attention, those girls often has horrendous attitudes or are a scammers
• Isolation is the key here, and it’s difficult. I’ve failed countless times because of mother hens.
• Remember that Serbia is a conservative place, one night stands are not common, and even getting a kiss close can be a personal victory here
• Don’t pay attention to Serbian guys but don’t disregard them
• Getting a number close isn’t that difficult(but it’s not a walk in the par either), so I believe there’s a hope for those of you who would like to spend there some more time, but that ofc means dating, dating, dating
CONCLUSION
Belgrade’s nightlife reputation is true. It’s a great city to party. The quality of women can blow your mind. The thing I loved about it was that it’s not that popular (apart from Balkans) , sort of undiscovered. Women although conservative are stunning. I would recommend Belgrade to the ones who like to improve their game, try a new challenge, and the reward will be worth all the pain and suffering. I’d really like to experience the city during winter period. If anyone's interested just gimme a shout. I’ll be back Belgrade.
Balkan Power? Sorry I didn’t sense that, maybe If I were a 30 kg midget things would go differently, maybe it works that way, but I can understand what kamaki meant, it’s just like everything he says, a bit twisted, a bit exaggerated, a bit bs.
Fell free to ask any questions, if I missed something, I'll be updating this data sheet gradually.
THE CITY
Let’s face it, Serbia is a poor country. Serbian economy is based mostly on farming. As a Pole I can totally understand Serbs – Balkans were always a unstable place, frequent wars and conflicts changed local environment and mentality. Belgrade is no exception. Mind you that in 1999 NATO was bombarding the city, so it was basically a not that long ago. I didn’t like it. It’s not a place for a honeymoon, or to send your kid for a holiday, but fuck that, I wasn’t there for sightseeing. The info you might wanna know is that it’s a capital city, 1,7 MLN inhabitants and it’s cheap. My hotel (Hyatt) was by far cheaper than the same quality hotels in EE including Poland. Booze is cheap, cabs are chap – what not to like about it. It’s worth to add that it’s not a popular travel destination, and foreign competition is almost none. When it comes to language in Serbia they use Srpski, from Slavic languages family. With my polish and Russian combined I was able to understand 40% – 50% of what they were mumbling about. I actually think that my Russian helped me out more than my English – a lot of females were able to speak or understand in Russian. I’d say that 50% - 60% of girls speak some English, but only 20% fluently, so after a while I didn’t even bother using it. Belgrade is way more interesting during the night, for more details skip it to the nightlife section.
I almost forgot: when I was there, it was hot as hell, during the whole week temperature was never below 35 C, but I have been told that this was more like an exception than the rule, nevertheless the streets were almost empty in the afternoon, people were looking for shelters, so day game options were limited.
SERBIAN MEN
The part I’ve been waiting for. Where should I begin? Let’s start with the appearance. Our Greek poster says that they are one of the tallest in the world. Well, I found out the official numbers, and it turns out that average male height in Serbia is 178,5 cm [proof] so it’s only 1cm more than i.e Poland. My observation confirms it – you can spot someone who’s 170 as well as 195. I’m 184 cm and I wasn’t overwhelmed by them at any point. But the fact is that in Dinaric Alps region live the tallest men on earth with average height 185,6 cm. I wouldn’t be worry tho, since this area is not urbanized. Anyway hyping Serbian height is trolling. Some say that they are athletic and muscular. Once again don’t get it twisted. The average Serbian men is just like everywhere else in the EE. But I have to agree on the sports thing going on. In a poor country like Serbia many young men don’t see an opportunity to get easy money apart from professional sport, so many of them practice some sports. But don’t think that everyone you pass by here looks like MMA fighter. Telling that Serbians are muscular is like telling that Russians are racist. You know what I mean? Check out photo galleries or videos on YTB – you’ll find as many skinny ones as well as the ones with round belly. Typical Serb has dark hair and dark eyes. They are Slavic, but with Mediterranean element and that makes them look slightly better than Slavic people from the north. They dress up pretty good. I’ve been even told that a Serb can spend most of his salary on buying new clothes, and you know what? For once I can actually believe in it. Now let’s analyse how they act. You have to know two things : 1. Balkan culture is all about the man and masculinity, women are only an addition, 2. Family is very important.
My thoughts exactly. Ok, I must admit, a Serbian guy with game is macho. But so what? I was approaching many hotties and all I got from guys was (sometimes) nasty eye contact, but when I looked back they couldn’t even hold it. However I’ll never forget when talking to a girl, suddenly a guy came out of nowhere, started asking her something, then walked away. When I asked the girl who was that guy and what was it all about, she replied that it was her brother, sort of checking out on her, but she told him that everything’s fine. This happened for me twice, I have never seen something like that before (I wonder what would happen if she replied that I’m a douche), but it only confirms that the family is sacred for them. Apart from that, I was never punched, pushed, bad mouthed or anything like that. Intimidating? Bitch please. Serbian guys do not drink that much as we do here, or in FSU. They are absolutely not psycho like the Russians are. Those who were in Russian club after midnight probably know what I’m talking about. I’d even say that polish guys are more aggressive when intoxicated. My contacts with the guys were limited, but I got mostly positive impressions. Keep in mind tho, that I tried to behave and people respect my look (I actually doubled trainings before my holidays). Here I give you a list of things that should never come out of your mouth when talking to a Serb:
• Politics and History (they are mostly nationalists, the things like Kosovo are the pain in ass)
• Religion (don’t even start it)
• Football (they will bore you to death talking about Crvena Zvezda vs Partizan derby)
• Croatia (no comparisons, don’t even mention if you actually been there before)
Anyway behave yourself and watch what you say, they are mostly proud of who they are so do not injure it, and you should be fine.
SERBIAN WOMEN
Maybe Belgrade isn’t the prettiest city, but in terms of women it’s absolutely European first league. Badoo certainly don’t lie. Average female height is around 170, but a picture of 175 girl is nothing special, plus add 10cm heels to that. Serbian girls are amazing combination of Slavic genes and Mediterranean environment. The things you will love about them are soft, mostly swarthy skin, gorgeous eyes and beautiful dark hair (you will find some fake blondes if you’re into those things). Serbia is less varied than PL, UA or RUS. Slavic genes caused big noses, superb legs, and nice breasts, but if you are a booty lover, this is not your place. The next thing is there was no single obese girl in Belgrade, I honestly think that they don’t know what ‘obesity’ means. Even tho it was still summer time I was pretty amazed with the overall quality. It was like you see a 8, and you want to approach her, but then suddenly another girl walks next to you and she’s even better. In the clubs girls were mostly dancing, no big deal for me, I see it every day in Poland. I was just a bit disappointed about how they dress up when going out cuz sandals or ballerinas plus shorts are totally unacceptable for me as EE guy. The looks to the side, they are really hard to crack. It’s definitely not like in Ukraine, where foreign status gives you sort of advantage, in case of Serbia the key to get laid is not to show the girl how different you are from the locals, but how similar you are. It’s not like in Poland where girl will be open and let you tell her your weak bullshit only because you are American. Serbian women are phenomenon: they tell you how much they fell underestimated by their men, but at the end of a day they’ll stick to them. It’s really hilarious how many complains I’ve heard about Serbian men attitude, but so what? They got used to this whole dominant macho thing, and it’s clear to me that this is the way you should hit it. Oh and they smoke a lot. It’s such a turn off… More info about women in game section
Tits FTW. Skip the first two minutes.
NIGHTLIFE
What can I say, they know how to party. GQ didn’t lie, it’s a great place to be. I was going out through the whole week and I didn’t even matter whether it was Tuesday or Friday night, the places were packed but in a good way. You better put on your club game here. Splavovi – the speciality of Belgrade (floating clubs) it’s something unique. Here are some useful info that helped me out a lot:
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Most venues are open until 4am from Tuesday through to Sunday, and some famous venues can open even on Monday. Cafés and bars are usually open until 1am every day. Entrance is usually free of charge.
The music stretches from well-known European and local DJs playing house, hip-hop, R&B or drum'n'bass to the beats of turbofolk pounding into the night.
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The focus for nightlife is spread throughout the city: much of the activity takes place on floating river clubs anchored along the Danube and Sava. Another clubbing area, which has become a fashionable place for going out over the last four years, is Ada Ciganlija. The Makiš side of Ada Ciganlija Lake is the centre of the nightlife of Belgrade during summertime. Other pockets of nightlife are only a short walk from the Republic Square and inside the walls of the Kalemegdan Fortress.
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There are winter and summer Belgrade clubs.
Winter nightclubs are located downtown, and their busy season stretches from October through May.
In the summer, Belgrade party moves to the rivers, where summer nightclubs have their opening nights in May. Actually, those are big, open-air rafts and boats, remodelled into discotheques. The most popular Belgrade clubs are those on the river Sava, starting from the old Railway Bridge and up to the “Gazela” bridge, and also those on the Danube, near “Hotel Yugoslavia”.
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Belgrade nightclubs don’t practice cover charge, but the reservation is necessary. All spots – by the bar, bar tables, high tables, VIP tables – are bound to be reserved. It is very important to get into the club no later than half past midnight, because otherwise the club has the right to give your reservation to someone else.
Also, in nightclubs in Belgrade you can’t enter inappropriately dressed (like: sports fashion), and you can’t carry drinks, narcotics or weapons inside.
Make sure to check out the links. I wanted to make my own club guide, but it would be completely pointless since I found this site, with everything perfectly shown including timetable schedule and recent photo galleries. My tip is to use ‘follow the pussy’ technique. My experience shown that the best looking, and most approachable girls are choosing places with house and turbo folk music.
Now you know where you can find the best talent. It’s your advantage. Try to look for an apartment, hotel as close as you can get to the river to improve your logistics.
Prices:
• Soft drinks 1.5€ – 2€
• Local Beer 1.5€ – 2€
• Imported Beer 2€ – 4€
• Red bull 5€
• Johhny Walker 2.5€ – 4€
Bottle: 80€ – 100€
• Ballantines2.5€ – 4€
Bottle: 80€ – 100€
• Johhny Black Label 5€ - 7€
Bottle: 120€ – 140€
• Vodka 2.5€ – 4€
Bottle: 80€ – 100€
• Tequila 2.5€ – 4€
• White wine 2€ – 3€
Bottle: 20€ – 100€
• Red wine 2€ – 3€
Bottle: 20€ – 100€
• Sex on the Beach, Mai tai, Long Island Ice Tea, Blue Lagoon, Mohito 3.5€ – 5€
GAME
Here are some of my personal advices on how to get laid in Belgrade:
• In the clubs high energy, smile and dancing skills are fundamental
• Mixed sets are waste of time, if you see a mixed set in a club, unless you can tell that the males are total betas, don’t even try to interact with them (unless you are introduced by someone), Serbs won’t let you even touch their ladies. Sorry.
• The good news is, that single Serbian men often stick together. A picture where there are separate groups of males and females in one place is very common in Belgrade, and here is your chance
• There is no such thing like romantic Serb. As I said earlier, when Serb is approaching he tries to be dominant and macho, I tried this whole romance thing but it turns out its good for Poland, not really for Serbia, the girls seemed bored
• It’s not a nice guy territory, If you can’t show that you are alpha you won’t get laid here
• Don’t try to be intellectual type, talk about family values or tradition and the girls will appreciate it
• Ultimately, the best thing to talk about, is sport. No bullshit. I’ve been told that the hottest Serbian school/uni girls are dating only with guys who practice some kind of sport. Many things here revolves around it, it’s another kind of phenomenon. So the best way to impress the girl is to say that you are/were a sportsman, but I hope your body will prove what comes out of your mouth, Serbian girls aren’t stupid.
• Your appearance is very important, I cannot imagine how someone who is less than 180 /5’11 can pull like a champ here, since girls with the heels on are usually around that height, and it seems to me that the taller the better
• I highly recommend you to hit up the gym, read about creatine and other supplements and start your training, It’s out of discussion that in Serbia (Balkans?) muscular>intelligent
• I disagree that Serbian girls don’t like to talk to foreigners, u just need to choose wisely, and the girl will be pleased to talk to you
• One thing I’ve learned is that it’s better to open a girl that is dancing and having a good time than the one who is constantly standing close to a bar, sort of asking for attention, those girls often has horrendous attitudes or are a scammers
• Isolation is the key here, and it’s difficult. I’ve failed countless times because of mother hens.
• Remember that Serbia is a conservative place, one night stands are not common, and even getting a kiss close can be a personal victory here
• Don’t pay attention to Serbian guys but don’t disregard them
• Getting a number close isn’t that difficult(but it’s not a walk in the par either), so I believe there’s a hope for those of you who would like to spend there some more time, but that ofc means dating, dating, dating
CONCLUSION
Belgrade’s nightlife reputation is true. It’s a great city to party. The quality of women can blow your mind. The thing I loved about it was that it’s not that popular (apart from Balkans) , sort of undiscovered. Women although conservative are stunning. I would recommend Belgrade to the ones who like to improve their game, try a new challenge, and the reward will be worth all the pain and suffering. I’d really like to experience the city during winter period. If anyone's interested just gimme a shout. I’ll be back Belgrade.
Balkan Power? Sorry I didn’t sense that, maybe If I were a 30 kg midget things would go differently, maybe it works that way, but I can understand what kamaki meant, it’s just like everything he says, a bit twisted, a bit exaggerated, a bit bs.
Fell free to ask any questions, if I missed something, I'll be updating this data sheet gradually.